the Freddy Fresh rap record book
Terry_Clubbup
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Found an unused Late Pass in the inside pocket of a tweed blazer anddecided to cash it in and finally get this book. EXCELLENT FUN BOOK.A few questions/ideas:--Anyone know if an updated edition is planned for corrections/omissions? --How about a Vol. 2 for 90s records? (It's kind of funny how the wholebook is 80s records except for the records Freddy was personally involved with making.)--So if a rap record is not listed in the book, does that mean it isan uber-raer whose omission becomes a new selling point?--...or does it mean that the music on the record is so inept thatit barely qualifies as rap, and should rather be filed in theEthnic Folkways section?
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Freddy's website has a pdf supplement--he has no plans to release a full updated version, though; apparently he lost money the last go-round.
Someone that posts here is at work on a more thorough (and typo-free) discography that covers the old school period, that should be available before too much longer.
--Anyone know if an updated edition is planned for corrections/omissions?
Freddy has an omissions pdf on his site, though it's still far from complete. (although that's pretty much an unattainable goal, i think).
As I understand it, there are no plans for a second run of the book.
dammit faux.
Thanks for the heads up about that .pdf file, I had been to his site
but had somehow missed that.
Found one there that sounds...interesting:
BROFEEL RECORDS
Exotic Rappers ??? Nissan is the Way
A good creative writing assignment would be to give each of us only the
above label/artist/song title and we have to go off and write a one-sheet
describing the look, sound and background of the group.
Looking at the .pdf file, looks like some of the corrections need corrections
Still, a great resource.
I am thinking that a volume on 1990s rapp records would necessarily be
twice as thick - more people putting out more records, nationwide.
Whereas back in the early-mid 80s, rapp records out of small or regional
non-NY scenes were almost a novelty. By the mid-90s every medium size
city and college town had a scene putting out records.
Haha, not creative writing, but I've actually had/have that record. I remember it being a Los Angeles record about the Nissan truck craze, you know, Crenshaw Blvd cruising style. Damn, I need to find that record
You sound like a little dude.
How about a discography of every indie hip hop record released from 1998 - 2007.
Just archive every hip hop post made by a European on Soul Strut!
Check it out:
Raphistory.net
Peace
Hawkeye
Seems like discogs.com could be the the IMDB of 12" singles if they keep growing.
Aw yeah, this was a good little record-relatted
Okay, so I want to try this again, see who know what records.
This is what make Soulstrut a valuable site, because it is a pool
of rapp informations.
BEEF-relatted:
Freddy Fresh book does not seem to have listed the original
Wendy's sponsored:
AWESOME RECORDS
Coyote McCloud "Where's The Beef?"[/b]
which samples Clara Peller, the old lady from the commercials.
However, in the rapp records book we do find:
SAGITARIUS RECORDS
Eddie B & Oscar T - "Where's The Beef?" 1984[/b]
with a note saying (see 4-Sight)
Looking at the 4-SIGHT label from Florida for 1984 records we find:
MC Chief (Sexy Lady) - "Beef Box" 1984[/b]
same song pressed again as
Ervin German w/ Sexy Lady - "Beef Box" 1984[/b]
Question: is "Beef Box" a "where's the beef"-relatted song or what.
okay one more:
CLARENCE MUIC RECORDS (New York Peter Brown) [supposed to be MUSIC]
Lee Love - "Feel My Beef" 1984[/b]
Feel My Beef[/b]
Plaese to tell if these are the real where's the beef records and
what where's the beef records I missed, as this was possibly in the
erra before "BEEF" came to be known in rapp as "conflict".
Columbus, Ohio celebrity, carried out her groceries several times.
Not a problem "beef" record, but indeed a beefy electro record.
Oh shit! Coyote McCloud is a former morning show DJ from Y107 in Nashville TN. I definitely listened to him and the fucking Zoo Crew on the way into school for a greater part of my childhood.
I should interject here, as a public service, to tell you all that
this is a terrible, terrible record. It should be purchased with
picture sleeve for the purpose of showing off as novelty icebreaker
at key parties, but in no circumstances shall the record actually
be played. (Do not play record).
DOG POLICE[/b]
Trill! Did you "swipe her Golden Buckeye card," too?
On a related note: Didn't those Burger King jernts beget "herb"'s synonymity with "nerd"?
Please to identify other rapp titles within this most functional of subgenres.
I am totally sold just on the spelling alone. Rather than needing correction,
it needs a place in my correction.
Qrush![/b]
Guessing that this sounds like it looks - amateur party style drum machine rapp.
On second thought...maybe electro?
The group is called CENTRIPETAL FORCE, which is a great name for something
printed on a record.
Freddy awards it two asterisks **, meaning the record is fly, currently
getting scarce, but was still available to random dudes in the field in
the late 20th century.
I recommend any number of the quality endeavors based on that bellowing "I've fallen! And I can't get up!" broad. The exact titles--and they are legion--escape me, but I know one in particular has a picture cover (so necessary for the novelty icebreaker; I'd argue that any record of this kind that you actually have to play is, effectively, a failure) featuring a cartoon of a tumbled old lady with a busted walker sitting on top of a record, with the requisite halo of cuckoo birds circling her aching head. Owing to the period, most of them are (un)hip-house in comportment, but I think your boy Lugzmaster Flex may have touched it, too, several (too many?) years after the cultural fact.
HOLLY SCHITT, I haven't thought about that Herb in awhile.
As far as I know, Herb didn't inspire any whole songs. Just individual
lines in songs (care to quote any?). You pronounce the "H".
For the chirren, who be not knowing:
Herb the Nerd[/b] - In 1985, the Burger King Corporation launched a 40 million dollar campaign featuring "Herb" the only man in America who hadn't tasted the goodness of their hamburger products. Herb was never seen in the early commercials but the awe and astonishment over the fact that Herb hadn't tasted a Burger King burger was the focus of the campaign.
Mock testimonials from family members and friends were edited into the commercial telling how different Herb was from other people and imploring him to eat at Burger King.
Finally, Herb was revealed to the public. He was played by John Merrick, a classically trained 35-year-old actor who donned glasses, white socks, and pants that didn't quite reach his ankles. Herb's nerdish persona was hawked in all sorts of advertising gimmickry including tee-shirts which read "I dated Herb."
NBC's SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE lampooned the campaign by holding a mock press conference with Herb and his lawyer pleading with the American public to let the man be and give him back his anonymity.
John Merrick made personal appearances at Burger King restaurants nationwide, giving prizes to anyone who first recognized him when he entered the burger joints.
One year later, Herb and his popularity fizzled (or as one reporter put it "the Herb campaign wilted like week-old lettuce." Before totally fading away from the public eye, Herb appeared in a "Wrestlemania 2" video in 1986.
The Herb the Nerd ad campaign was created by the J. Walter Thompson Co. ad agency and became one of the decade's biggest failures.
freddy seems to be selling pretty much every record that he owns as 'rapknowledge' on ebay. his auctions are cool as he switches from first to third person in the desciption and also talks major caca on the "bling" era, which we are currently living through. if you buy something, send an email comparing his book to the holy bible and you will get autographed mastermix extra wax with your order. his packaging is a large mass of various types of tape rolled together with your record in the center. i see now he has formed a limited liability corp so nobody's really fucking with him on that front either.
Yeah, check out this one ended yestarday:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Rap-Old-School-...1QQcmdZViewItem
Gotta love the RANDOM RAP in rainbow colors.
"Doesn't get any more random than this..."
As far as hatting on the "bling era", Freddy is an OLD DUDE, and obviously
gets a pass for his multitudinous contributions to the culture. I wouldn't
try to convince him to like B.G. any more than I would have tried to convince
my Tommy Dorsey-loving grandfather to like Albert Ayler, or Miles' "Rated X".
I better slow the fuck down, I got like 8 more posts than james now.