I don't wan't to give the feds any ammo, but lets just say, yes, it happens. Different clinnics deal differently. Some are straight, some not so. Owners can make exceptions for specific people. Etc. Etc. I am a staunch supporter in the right for medical maryjane. Recently LApd assisted the feds in raiding a West Hollywood clinic. That's an invasion of our jurisdiction. We are a seperate city with our own sherrif's department. I hope the city persues this. sorry to digress.
What I think is most alarming about this is the continuation of the federal government overruling states rights. Not that there is anything new about that, but the federal government has been subverting states rights much more recently. Not a very Republican thing to do.
They'll have to pull the pipe from my cold, dead hands.
i'm sayin, how many of you smoke for medicinal purposes anyhow?
i understand it's the all about principle but if glaucoma set in, i'd be down on the corner in a heartbeat.
One of my beefs is the corruption at those clinics. They should keep it clean for real[/b] sick people. That being said, prozac doesn't work as well as some good indo, but I don't go to the clinic. Gotta support my homies, nahmean?
Corruption?? WTF are you talking about? Real sick people? What does a fake sick person look like? Would someone who prefers a joint a week rather than prozac once a day not be considered real? You'd rather support your homies than support oranizations that care for the seriously ill?
Trew, for the record, I love to get high no matter the occasion, but I also have arthritis and lost track of the multitudes of pain killers they used me as a guinea pig for by the time I was 13. I haven't taken a prescription pain killer in five years.
I'm not talking about you or me. I'm talking about the people that aren't sick that go there. A lot of dealers are supplied from those places. I live within a block of 4 clinics in West Hollywood and I know people so I know the deal. It's not a moral thing, I would prefer it be legal all around. I'm just sayin', why jeprodize it for the cancer, and aids patients when your trusty friend who has been dealing for years is down the block.
Agree with Taza. I know quite a few people that use the clinics as their dealer these days... Better herb and they had a doctor freind prescribe it to them... Not knocking the value of medical marijuana, but there is alot of abuse going on with the clinics right now.
very much so, one of the west hollywood clinics clearing 175,000$ a week! profit! do the math!
dem shits is mad shady, my man grows for one & is set to retire realllllly soon...
What I think is most alarming about this is the continuation of the federal government overruling states rights. Not that there is anything new about that, but the federal government has been subverting states rights much more recently. Not a very Republican thing to do.
True, the new republican party I guess, but it is still in stark contradiction to one of their party's most important tennents, a small federal govenment and the rule of individual states. The dilema lies in the presendence they are setting, you give the federal govenment more authority, and when the balance of power tips to the other side, these decisions will come back to haunt them.
True, the new republican party I guess, but it is still in stark contradiction to one of their party's most important tennents, a small federal govenment and the rule of individual states. The dilema lies in the presendence they are setting, you give the federal govenment more authority, and when the balance of power tips to the other side, these decisions will come back to haunt them.
O'Connor, Thomas, and Rehnquist duly performed their Republican duty by dissenting from this opinion, so unfortunately, they're not the ones to blame.
True, the new republican party I guess, but it is still in stark contradiction to one of their party's most important tennents, a small federal govenment and the rule of individual states. The dilema lies in the presendence they are setting, you give the federal govenment more authority, and when the balance of power tips to the other side, these decisions will come back to haunt them.
O'Connor, Thomas, and Rehnquist duly performed their Republican duty by dissenting from this opinion, so unfortunately, they're not the ones to blame.
Coselmed, wondering if you have a link for the dissenting opinions (if they have been posted yet)?
somewhat related...viagra, which has been reported to cause blindness, is legal but the guvment is quick to make the chronic illegal..just a thought.
Not related. Viagra doesn't independently cause blindness. They're still trying to establish the link between NAION (narrowing of the optic nerve) and the underlying conditions that may predispose people who experience this unfortunate side effect (there have only been 38 reported cases of blindess directly attributable to Viagra use, which is not statistically significant). The FDA has asked Pfizer to add a warning to the label.
True, the new republican party I guess, but it is still in stark contradiction to one of their party's most important tennents, a small federal govenment and the rule of individual states. The dilema lies in the presendence they are setting, you give the federal govenment more authority, and when the balance of power tips to the other side, these decisions will come back to haunt them.
O'Connor, Thomas, and Rehnquist duly performed their Republican duty by dissenting from this opinion, so unfortunately, they're not the ones to blame.
Coselmed, wondering if you have a link for the dissenting opinions (if they have been posted yet)?
Shown here are fasces, a Roman symbol of power through force, sticks bound around an axe. It is the source of the word fascism, and it appears on either side of the podium in the Senate, as well as a version of the Senate logo. Perhaps this clears things up a bit.
gettin' all De Vinci Code on us w/ the symbolism. Too bad its true.
No Da Vinci Code, just basic latin root words. There is much in the way of occult symbolism in the U.S government, but a fasces has nothing to do with the occult. I think it's just them laughing at us.
are there any good books or online resources about governemnt seals and their symbolism? I often wonder who makes them and how they decide what to put in them.
Yo, i got shit thats just as good as that ole clinic shit. And cheaper too. So dont even worry about it. That shit was bound to blow up. Good riddance, like it was ever gonna hold up.
plus, why did they sell that shit at street prices if its supposed to be all medical? Somebody made a killing.
And anyway, your local clinic aint gonna pack bowls with you and chill and play records and shit either. So holler at your local dealer. Were still here.
Coselmed[/b] thanks for being the most sane person in this thread (z_illa[/b] being a close second). too many people try to turn this into a republican/ democrat thing when the truth is its one of those things thats so embedded in everyones mind as a bad thing that it doesn't matter which of the two political parties you most identify with.
Out of curiousity has anyone checked the wording of the ruling. I can't seem to find it but I heard on NPR how O'Connor made a point of saying how the government still has the power to legalize it. The way they commented on her words it made her sound like she was encouraging the government to look back into legalization. The news report translated the ruling to mean that it shouldn't be protected by states but rather looked into as being legal on a federal level.
Just a thought, mayube its crazy but then again so is looking at roman coins for traces of an evil American agenda
and one more morsel to chew on, as coselmed stated earlier some of the most conservative republican judges dissented in their ruling. When it comes down to it many of you (including me) take the true republican stance on this which is that the government should not be interfering in the use of weed and let the people decide what is right and wrong
Coselmed[/b] thanks for being the most sane person in this thread (z_illa[/b] being a close second). too many people try to turn this into a republican/ democrat thing when the truth is its one of those things thats so embedded in everyones mind as a bad thing that it doesn't matter which of the two political parties you most identify with.
Out of curiousity has anyone checked the wording of the ruling. I can't seem to find it but I heard on NPR how O'Connor made a point of saying how the government still has the power to legalize it. The way they commented on her words it made her sound like she was encouraging the government to look back into legalization. The news report translated the ruling to mean that it shouldn't be protected by states but rather looked into as being legal on a federal level.
Just a thought, mayube its crazy but then again so is looking at roman coins for traces of an evil American agenda
-Adam
Its an American dime, and its not that far fetched-its called a fasces and its the derivative of fascism. It really doesn't get much simpler than that. What other possible conclusions could be derived? Why would that of all symbols be on the Senate floor, where the State of the Union address is given? Whatever, some of you dudes will make a thousand excuses for an uncomfortable truth. No hate, just saying. They put things like this out there subtly because they know no one gives a shit. Maybe instead of belittling stuff like this you should actually give more than a passing glance. Don't just look for things that confirm your own previously held opinions. Don't mean to come at you sideways, I'm posting right before bed and I'm kind of fucked up. Peace.
fuck it yall. do any of you guys really have a huge problem getting weed?
No! And if it wasnt for the money from illegal drugs, how do you think the cia and the shadow government is gonna fund its secret war against the aliens?
You think money grows on trees?.....wait...scratch that.
Marijuana will NEVER be legal in the united states. Yet it will ALWAYS be easy as hell to get and readily available. Thats the way we run shit over here. We say one thing, and do the other.
and what would amsterdam do then? if weed was legal in the U.S.? NOTHING, duh, there would no longer be any need to go there.
ANyway, tobacco companies have patents already on file and waiting to take over that shit the second it does become legal. ANd then they will take what started as a harmless plant, and turn it into a horribly addictive cancer forming death factory just like they did with...well...tabacco.
I mean, its legal for you to buy and grow your own tabacco plant right now, how many smokers you know that do that shit? NONE!
Weed should definitely stay illegal and non subsidized and non taxed and out of the public economy.
Making it legal would just cause too many problems and a lithany of moral obstacles that probably arent worth the hassle. If you are a regular pot smoker and you cant find weed, you're a moron or you have no friends.
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very much so, one of the west hollywood clinics clearing 175,000$ a week! profit! do the math!
dem shits is mad shady, my man grows for one & is set to retire realllllly soon...
I was just pondering this the other day.
The Supreme court might be the most important link in the chain of all.
O'Connor, Thomas, and Rehnquist duly performed their Republican duty by dissenting from this opinion, so unfortunately, they're not the ones to blame.
Coselmed, wondering if you have a link for the dissenting opinions (if they have been posted yet)?
They're posted on the New York Times website:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=000&invol=03-1454&friend=nytimes
plus, why did they sell that shit at street prices if its supposed to be all medical? Somebody made a killing.
And anyway, your local clinic aint gonna pack bowls with you and chill and play records and shit either. So holler at your local dealer. Were still here.
hit me on the pm player.
Out of curiousity has anyone checked the wording of the ruling. I can't seem to find it but I heard on NPR how O'Connor made a point of saying how the government still has the power to legalize it. The way they commented on her words it made her sound like she was encouraging the government to look back into legalization. The news report translated the ruling to mean that it shouldn't be protected by states but rather looked into as being legal on a federal level.
Just a thought, mayube its crazy but then again so is looking at roman coins for traces of an evil American agenda
-Adam
Its an American dime, and its not that far fetched-its called a fasces and its the derivative of fascism. It really doesn't get much simpler than that. What other possible conclusions could be derived? Why would that of all symbols be on the Senate floor, where the State of the Union address is given? Whatever, some of you dudes will make a thousand excuses for an uncomfortable truth. No hate, just saying. They put things like this out there subtly because they know no one gives a shit. Maybe instead of belittling stuff like this you should actually give more than a passing glance. Don't just look for things that confirm your own previously held opinions. Don't mean to come at you sideways, I'm posting right before bed and I'm kind of fucked up. Peace.
No! And if it wasnt for the money from illegal drugs, how do you think the cia and the shadow government is gonna fund its secret war against the aliens?
You think money grows on trees?.....wait...scratch that.
Marijuana will NEVER be legal in the united states. Yet it will ALWAYS be easy as hell to get and readily available. Thats the way we run shit over here. We say one thing, and do the other.
and what would amsterdam do then? if weed was legal in the U.S.? NOTHING, duh, there would no longer be any need to go there.
ANyway, tobacco companies have patents already on file and waiting to take over that shit the second it does become legal. ANd then they will take what started as a harmless plant, and turn it into a horribly addictive cancer forming death factory just like they did with...well...tabacco.
I mean, its legal for you to buy and grow your own tabacco plant right now, how many smokers you know that do that shit? NONE!
Weed should definitely stay illegal and non subsidized and non taxed and out of the public economy.
Making it legal would just cause too many problems and a lithany of moral obstacles that probably arent worth the hassle. If you are a regular pot smoker and you cant find weed, you're a moron or you have no friends.
Just to play devils advocate and shit.