f*ck ABC
keithvanhorn
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Its one thing to fictionalize history for the purpose of entertainment, but i can only imagine that ABC had other intentions when it chose to turn a "docu-drama" into a fake account of the events leading up to 9-11. Elections in Congress are right around the corner, and now ABC is coming out with a bullshit miniseries which points the finger at the Clinton administration for being too distracted (lewinsky-related) to handle terrorism. Meanwhile, the majority of the media is covering this story as though Clinton is rushing around trying to make sure "the truth" doesnt come out. Such bullshit. Real headz know the deal. Check out this link and the other stories where ABC admits making a fake-u-drama.http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/07/clinton-pushes-back-911-families-speak-out/
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The fuckers are utterly shameless in their lies. While most of us learn from history, they're busy twisting it.
Like I said....
Personally I don't agree with showing it in schools.....but with all the "docu" flicks out there about the current administration that include truths, half truths and unsubstantiated biased slander I'm disappointed that folks are on board with this kind of political censorship.
I'd be upset if Michael Moore was censored...threatening ABC seems like some weird paralell world role reversal.
Let all the morons begin to attack this as some sort of "Pro-Bush" post....I wouldn't expect anything less from the no-spin SS zone.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/9/7/203153.shtml?s=al&promo_code=2543-1
ha. he gave those documents back and they were unrelated.
abc has admitted that the disputed scenes were not based in fact.
Let us all shed another tear for the downtrodden conservative minority of SoulStrut....
yea, he worked as a campaign strategist. check the facts. the cia and clinton's cabinet members refute everything he says. furthermore, the dude wrote a book (which he is pushing) in which he bashes clinton, i'd say he is far from a credible source. maybe you can find an interview with clinton's chef or his personal trainer.
Wrong and wrong.
I inadvertently took a few documents from the Archives," Berger said in a written statement. "When I was informed by the Archives that there were documents missing, I immediately returned everything I had except for a few documents that I apparently had accidentally discarded."
Although Berger said he reviewed thousands of pages, he apparently homed in on a single document: the so-called "after-action report" on the Clinton administration's handling of the millennium plot of 1999/2000. Berger is said to have taken multiple copies of the same paper. He is also said to have taken those copies on at least two different days.
Holy shit! I saw the Newsmax link and didn't even bother checking it out, but honestly, if ANYONE has a
it's Morris. The guy's a a one-man Clinton-hate industry, and as a result has been embraced by the Fox Newsers as one of their own.
Fucking please....
You don't have to....I already did it for you above....Kreskin could make a fortune here.
dick morris ??
got to be some better peep to quote,
maybe george tennet or al gore ........?
Dick Morris is an idiot, you know the story with him, hookers and everything. He's been outside the Clinton cirle too long now to have any value anyway.
Ummmm, has Bush caught Osama Bin Laden? Am I missing something? This makes sense how?
the archives is not missing any documents. i dont know where you got that quote from, but taken in full context, he "discarded" copies of documents that were given back at some point to the archives (i think he took a total of 2 pages). and while "the millenium plot" is related to terrorism, there were/are thousands of documents detailing clinton's involvement with anti-terrorism. everything berger took is in the archives. so if there was something critical, we would know about it.
I thought the American way was to let them run it and then sue the shit out of them for slander???
i.e. slamming the barn door shut after the big propaganda horse has gotten out...
So you're on board with this kind of censorship??......I'm not.
The flick we spoke about here yesterday actually takes GWB's face and super imposes it on an actor's body.....would you be OK with the Bush Administration trying to stop the release of that film??
From WAPO
Government official with knowledge of the probe said Berger removed from archives files all five or six drafts of a critique of the government's response to the millennium terrorism threat, which he said was classified "codeword," the government's highest level of document security.
From NRO
The documents Berger took ??? each copy of the millennium report is said to be in the range of 15 to 30 pages ??? were highly secret. They were classified at what is known as the "code word" level, which is the government's highest tier of secrecy. Any person who is authorized to remove such documents from a special secure room is required to do so in a locked case that is handcuffed to his or her wrist.
no way
if a such stated film is being shown at a
crucial moment before a close election
for political purposes
then
maybe showing it to children who should be
prepping for "no child left behind" tests is wrong
but
i'm not calling for censorship
(same with the sinclair swifty propaganda flix)
just a hearty debate of the b.s.
& made up to order portions of this questionable film
shown for questionable reasons
(don't they have some reality crap shows that would reap better ratings ?)
I agree....I just think the more important debate is the attempt by a political party to censor something they don't agree with or claim to be false.
THAT is more dangerous than the film itself.
Didn't Michael Moore come right out and say the purpose of his '04 flick was EXACTLY that reason???
i missed the pre-election ABC tv showing of that flick .........
what is your point? the 9-11 commission had and still has a copy of every document that berger took. also, the probe is over, and berger paid his fine, end of story. this isnt some huge conspiracy. whether you believe berger's explanation (that it was an accident) is also irrelevant to this discussion. ABC's script was not based in fact and Berger isn't holding onto some missing document that would justify their lies. nobody has alleged that. move on.
Sideshow Bob are the democrats, and the rakes are Rove's traps.
Unlike 9/11, the assassination of GWB never happened. If ABC were to present a miniseries about a fictional/possible invasion of the US by Islamic fundamentalists it would be speculative, and shouldn't be subject to any prior restraint.
If ABC wants to present a miniseries about events that actually happened, and present falsehood and speculation as fact, it's a different story. While I don't believe the movie should be pulled entirely, ABC shouldn't be able to present bullshit without some kind of prominent disclaimer.
Their intent is clear, and companies like Scholastic ought to think twice about associating themselves with deliberate misstatement of facts. Last night the correspondent on Fax made a reference to the fact that the incidents in dispute went by very quickly and wouldn't really be noticed.
Other defenders have said that it's a "docu-drama" so the filmmakers are within their rights to take some "liberties" with the truth. I guess it's only a coincidence that they liberties they've taken include negative lies about Clinton?
Why don't we just take some more liberties and have Washington corss the Delaware on a jet-ski, or Lincoln breakdance at Gettysburg.
Either something happened or it didn't.[/b]
So propaganda is only OK if you have to pay for it.....Capitalism at it's finest!!