big-label LPs that are impossible to find/unknown
ako
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i cant think of any off the top of my head, but what are some big-label LPs that are pretty much completely impossible to find? seems like i read about some record on ABC that some dude could find no info on once...the unknown shit is even more interesting, have you found any heat on a big label that nobody knew about?
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...let's start with ABC! The Natural Four and Maximillian, for starters...(and please don't tell me "those records are common, because I see them cheap at $70 at conventions all the time!") And I never see the James Luther Dickinson (on Atlantic) or Moloch (on Enterprise) turn up either...
BTW, just 'cause albums were on major labels doesn't mean they're gonna automatically be easy to find. If nobody bought 'em, naturally these elpees are gonna fade away fairly quickly...
Sweet Apple's 1971(?) album on Columbia...really good rockish funk.
I think it is documented that this is the wort selling LP of all time..I think it "offically" sold something like 150 copies...
AKO- we have both the James Luther(sealed OG) and Moloch (VG+ OG) at the shop...they arent cheap though...($150 and $80 respectively)
The major label LP I want but that doesnt seem to exsist, outside of the one copy that shingaling has, is that ILL Peter Ivers LP on Epic, I have a so-so 45 from another(1975) LP, but the early 70s joint by him is
Also the Terry Manning on Enterprise is always scarce, shoula took one on the chin and bought that one at another shop here in town for $125....
Knight Of The Blue Communion.
Dag, are the records mentioned in this thread really all that impossibly rare these days? Woo Hah, I'm gonna maybe clean up when I get done putting my rap records up on Ebay and then move on to the rock section.
Did that one come out in the U.S.? I've only seen the Canadian press.
Sweet Apple = not
The one with the cursewords on the front cover.
I don't think it's impossible to find, just hard as hell to find it.
Same thing either way?
Well, I never see it turn up in Reckless, Hi-Fi, Dave's, or other similar used record stores here in Chicago on a regular basis for $8 or less, so as far as I'm concerned, Sweet Apple may as well be
(And I bought mine in London, England, oddly enuff...)
hey, I have a mint one.
Enterprise has some tough LPs to come by (esp. 24k Black), and Capitol took some late 60s all-or-nothing risks on groups like Brothers Unlimited, Gandalf, and Food.
The Hampton Grease Band claims their first album (a double with no singles, natch) was the 2nd worst selling album on Columbia, the first being a yoga record
Moloch normally gets around half of $80 which would explain why its sitting there... but I didn't find it at all impressive the one time I listened
so should i be saying "ouch" about passing up a $20 copy a couple years ago?
I think the story got mixed up...the way the story came down to me, the worst-selling Columbia album was not a yoga record, but it was an album by Swami Satchinada, an Indian YOGI who was a ubiquitous presence at rock festivals back during the hippie era. His album came out roughly around the same time as the HGB and was produced by Felix Cavaliere from the Rascals.
Ako...that was me who originally mentioned those two albums. I was actually at Shangri-La two months ago, and sure enuff, Dickinson and Moloch were on the wall framed in plastic bags with huge price tags...
I don't think that yogi record is that rare. I've seen it many times.
But seriously, there are SOOOO many obscure major label lp's on the really big labels like Capitol that you could be at this forever. People just don't care about a lot of them cause they aren't of a "hot genre".
Not to hijack the thread, but this is sorta related...what's the opinion on that Brian Cloud California Soul elpee on Capitol (ca. 1969)? This could be one of the classic Capitol soul records that people are always big-upping on this list, but I've seen it pop up a few times, and it looks pretty loungey. Since I was never a Nancy Wilson fan (or even SPANKY Wilson), I usually let that one slide.
My dad was good friends with Peter Ivers, they went to college together in Massachusetts, so I have the LP but as a bonus I also have the test pressing/acetate of the album (two 1 sided, heavy as fuck slabs of vinyl, but there is metal on the edges). Tragic story with Peter Ivers, he was murdered in California in 1982 by a burglar who shot him in the head.
back to the thread, I want Waltel Branco - Meu Balanco (on CBS brasil)
our Moloch records dont sit around very long...they sit there for about 4 months or so...we get a lot of tourists from all over the world that come to memphis specifically for music tourism in our shop, the type that "cant believe we have that record", so we charge that for it, because it always sells...We get $100 all the time for Bobby Bland Duke LPs, even though you can get them on ebay for $20...never under estimate the spending power of the music tourist.
...and what's more, those Bobby Bland Duke LP's stayed in print a long-ass time and were always available in some form (even after Duke was bought out by ABC, then ABC was sold to MCA, then MCA stopped making vinyl). So with that in mind, even twenty bucks seems like a lot to pay for Bobby Bland.
It's not as hard to come by as Gandalf and Food, say, but you can probably pull about a hundo for a sealed copy.
Love this record. I've seen it come around 4-5 times, but never see the OG go for cheap tho
Word...
It's also a really, really, really good record.
One of the three largest record companies in the world in the late 60's and early 70's actually putting out records that sold 1000 copies at best.
Karen Dalton 1st LP
Food Forever is a Dream
Brothers Unlimited...
and a bunch of garbage that sucks that you never see... Primo People? Shit that that.... Rare Mel Torme records from the late 60's that sold like shit. I mean how many titles did they put out a month in the early 70's.... Like 200 releases a month?
on and on...
It is absurd. Some of that shit is scarcer than a lot of private presses.
of major label stuff that probably never got
past promotional pressings. Tons of late-60's
early-70's hard rock and rural rock sloss on
Epic, Warners, Atlantic...
Even commercial relases...like Motown, through all
the affiliates they had pumping in that era,
were turning out scores of titles every month.
There's all kinda crap on Rare Earth and Mowest
and such that NOBODY was buying.
All the Old Headz record dudes talk about
is the "Golden Age" of the "cutout bin."
I remember the cutout bins from when I was
really young, seeing piles of the sealed KISS
solo LP's*, the ones where each had his own album,
for 79 cents at Woolworths in like 1979...these
dudes talk about the same thing but with 13th Floor
Elevators and Bobby Byrd albums, buying handfuls
in 1974 at 5-for-$2!
(*actually just the Peter Criss and Paul Stanley ones...
Gene and Ace did alright with theirs...)