deej trina's one of my favorite rappers of all time (half serious), but that album was terrible.
Dude I've been saying this since the beginning of the thread. I told faux rillz that i regretted my initial reaction to it cuz i never pull it out and its terrible. I also posted my take on it in this thread already.
deej trina's one of my favorite rappers of all time (half serious), but that album was terrible.
Dude I've been saying this since the beginning of the thread.
I told faux rillz that i regretted my initial reaction to it cuz i never pull it out and its terrible. I also posted my take on it in this thread already.
Dude I've been saying this since the beginning of the thread. I told faux rillz that i regretted my initial reaction to it cuz i never pull it out and its terrible. I also posted my take on it in this thread already.
but how does an album go from being the seventh best record of the year in december '05 (or whenever pazz and jop happens) to "terrible" six months later?
Whatever dude, you don't like Foundation (@ rillz)
Noz - because I was listening to that shit when i was voting and was enjoying it at the time. There are a couple decent tracks on there. I'm not thinking of how history will vindicate me when I fill that out, I'm just listing albums I like. At the time I enjoyed it. Since then I've pulled it out never. I wish I'd voted for Mary J.
Foundation, the first album since Brand Nubian's 1990 debut that featured all four original members, is an incredible return to form. The rhymes by Grand Puba, Sadat X and Lord Jamar are as striking as they were on the group's breakout, and the focus on message tracks is a refreshing turn from the rap world's played-out tales of thug life. "Don't Let It Go to Your Head" is a cautionary tale for arrogant one-hit rappers, while "Probable Cause" is a scathing attack on the notorious tactics of the New Jersey State Police and "I'm Black and I'm Proud" is an enjoyable roots epic. There are plenty of simple feel-good tracks as well, although those omnipresent Wu-Tang strings appear on several songs (just as on every other major rap album released in 1998). The group ably manage to sidestep another late-'90s rap clich??, enlisting a different outside producer for each track. Though Foundation is no different ??? featuring DJ Premiere, Lord Finesse and Chris "CL" Liggio, among others ??? most of the best tracks were helmed by Nubian members Grand Puba or DJ Alamo. Of the few NYC rap acts still left a decade on from rap's golden age, Brand Nubian sounded the freshest.
-allmusic
Terrible review but thats not really the point. It is a BELOVED COMEBACK to many.
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For as many artists and albums that faux claims to not like, I'm wondering how he thinks he has any right to consider himself a fan of rap music.
I had friends who were grunge-fiends and Deadheads who liked more rap albums than faux did.
Foundation, the first album since Brand Nubian's 1990 debut that featured all four original members, is an incredible return to form. The rhymes by Grand Puba, Sadat X and Lord Jamar are as striking as they were on the group's breakout, and the focus on message tracks is a refreshing turn from the rap world's played-out tales of thug life. "Don't Let It Go to Your Head" is a cautionary tale for arrogant one-hit rappers, while "Probable Cause" is a scathing attack on the notorious tactics of the New Jersey State Police and "I'm Black and I'm Proud" is an enjoyable roots epic. There are plenty of simple feel-good tracks as well, although those omnipresent Wu-Tang strings appear on several songs (just as on every other major rap album released in 1998). The group ably manage to sidestep another late-'90s rap clich??, enlisting a different outside producer for each track. Though Foundation is no different ??? featuring DJ Premiere, Lord Finesse and Chris "CL" Liggio, among others ??? most of the best tracks were helmed by Nubian members Grand Puba or DJ Alamo. Of the few NYC rap acts still left a decade on from rap's golden age, Brand Nubian sounded the freshest.
-allmusic
Terrible review but thats not really the point. It is a BELOVED COMEBACK to many.
I know you didn't just turn to allmusic to bolster your position. Edit your post before somebody sees it.
The prob w this argument is its just a dick measuring contest about who got it 'right' instead of discussing the music itself and what is good or bad about it.
Seriously it does begin to take on the appearance of 'who has the realest opinions'. I think "Summer Nights" by Lil Rob was better than "Dear Summer" because "Summer Nights" is like the hip-hop Eagles, and "Dear Summer" is Jay-Z sounding bored and rapping about his boring post-retirement career. I don't care if thats more 'wrong' or less real or if in ten years no one remembers lil rob and they all love 'dear summer,' i think 'dear summer' is hot garbage and 'summer nights' reminds me of going out late and drinking w/ friends in summer 2005.
The prob w this argument is its just a dick measuring contest about who got it 'right' instead of discussing the music itself and what is good or bad about it.
Game Beanie Slim Thug Young Jeezy Bun B Z-Ro Kanye West Li'l Wayne Ying-Yang Twinz Three-6
Might be forgetting something, though.
Just to contradict my last post, I'm with you on the first four, I thought Bun B's album was disappointing, Z-Ro's was dope if not as good as joseph w mcvey, kanye's was ok but i never pulled it out and finally sold it, lil wayne was great, ying yang was garbage, three-6 was good.
In fact ying yang was as much of a falloff for them as trina's was for her.
The prob w this argument is its just a dick measuring contest about who got it 'right' instead of discussing the music itself and what is good or bad about it.
What's really good about Trina's album?
Whip it out and put it on the table, playboy.
Why the fuck are we still talking about an album everyone agrees on?
The prob w this argument is its just a dick measuring contest about who got it 'right' instead of discussing the music itself and what is good or bad about it.
What's really good about Trina's album?
Whip it out and put it on the table, playboy.
Why the fuck are we still talking about an album everyone agrees on?
Why are you so averse to discussing last year's No. 7 album?
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i wish "da club" got more push
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I told faux rillz that i regretted my initial reaction to it cuz i never pull it out and its terrible. I also posted my take on it in this thread already.
You said it and you shoulda meant it.
Now stand by your girl, deej.
but how does an album go from being the seventh best record of the year in december '05 (or whenever pazz and jop happens) to "terrible" six months later?
Noz - because I was listening to that shit when i was voting and was enjoying it at the time. There are a couple decent tracks on there. I'm not thinking of how history will vindicate me when I fill that out, I'm just listing albums I like. At the time I enjoyed it. Since then I've pulled it out never. I wish I'd voted for Mary J.
I'm supposed to be abashed over this?
Does anybody like that record?
Let's focus on how your lustful designs upon Ms. Glamourest Life caused you to mistake her album for a classic.
-allmusic
Terrible review but thats not really the point. It is a BELOVED COMEBACK to many.
I had friends who were grunge-fiends and Deadheads who liked more rap albums than faux did.
I know you didn't just turn to allmusic to bolster your position. Edit your post before somebody sees it.
You both sound ass-hurt.
I tell you poptarts what you should like regularly.
where's your 2005 top ten.
Deej, you've been here for all of two months--how you gonna go making accusations like that?
Do a board search--I posted one at the end of the year.
As for Noz, at least I didn't make "Dear Summer" my 5th best single of '05
What can I tell you? Stick around for my '06 list, then.
And "Dear Summer" was one of last year's best records.
Dear Summer?
Seriously it does begin to take on the appearance of 'who has the realest opinions'. I think "Summer Nights" by Lil Rob was better than "Dear Summer" because "Summer Nights" is like the hip-hop Eagles, and "Dear Summer" is Jay-Z sounding bored and rapping about his boring post-retirement career. I don't care if thats more 'wrong' or less real or if in ten years no one remembers lil rob and they all love 'dear summer,' i think 'dear summer' is hot garbage and 'summer nights' reminds me of going out late and drinking w/ friends in summer 2005.
Albums?
Game
Beanie
Slim Thug
Young Jeezy
Bun B
Z-Ro
Kanye West
Li'l Wayne
Ying-Yang Twinz
Three-6
Might be forgetting something, though.
What's really good about Trina's album?
Whip it out and put it on the table, playboy.
Just to contradict my last post, I'm with you on the first four, I thought Bun B's album was disappointing, Z-Ro's was dope if not as good as joseph w mcvey, kanye's was ok but i never pulled it out and finally sold it, lil wayne was great, ying yang was garbage, three-6 was good.
In fact ying yang was as much of a falloff for them as trina's was for her.
I never received confirmation .....
is it Dee J (as in DJ)?
or Deej (as in Reeg,Regis) ?
i need an answer ....
thx in adv
I did, too, but I think a lot of people confused the album being something other than what we had all hoped for with it being "bad".
I think I've said this here before, but everybody was looking for it to be his Fix or his Blueprint and instead it was his Hardknock Life.
Why are you so averse to discussing last year's No. 7 album?
glad to see you came around to it.