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New book on Dirty South music...

idiotproofidiotproof 880 Posts
edited February 2006 in Strut Central
Would this dude have a grip on the scene? I'm not familiar with him."Sarig is a contributor to Rolling Stone, Village Voice and other national magazines, writes a column on Jewish pop culture, and is the author of two books, The Secret History of Rock (Billboard) and The Everything Bicycle Book (Adams). As well as The Jewish Family Fun Book: Holiday Projects, Everyday Activities, and Travel Ideas with Jewish Themes (Jewish Lights) with his wife Danielle Dardashti."I'm open, but only if it's well researched & written.http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0306814307/002-0494107-1945604
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  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Would this dude have a grip on the scene? I'm not familiar with him.

    "Sarig is a contributor to Rolling Stone, Village Voice and other national magazines, writes a column on Jewish pop culture, and is the author of two books, The Secret History of Rock (Billboard) and The Everything Bicycle Book (Adams). As well as The Jewish Family Fun Book: Holiday Projects, Everyday Activities, and Travel Ideas with Jewish Themes (Jewish Lights) with his wife Danielle Dardashti."

    I'm open, but only if it's well researched & written.


    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0306814307/002-0494107-1945604


    Looks like bullschitt to me.
  • JATXJATX 258 Posts


    Looks like bullschitt to me.
    i agree. i wasnt consulted at all for any of this book.
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    Would this dude have a grip on the scene? I'm not familiar with him.

    "Sarig is a contributor to Rolling Stone, Village Voice and other national magazines, writes a column on Jewish pop culture, and is the author of two books, The Secret History of Rock (Billboard) and The Everything Bicycle Book (Adams). As well as The Jewish Family Fun Book: Holiday Projects, Everyday Activities, and Travel Ideas with Jewish Themes (Jewish Lights) with his wife Danielle Dardashti."

    I'm open, but only if it's well researched & written.


    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0306814307/002-0494107-1945604


    Looks like bullschitt to me.

    Outkast and Timbaland's names sharing the cover with an ice grill? Not a good look and seems really contrived. Different worlds altogether. Dudes with grills generally ain't checking for new Outkast or Timbaland at all.

    Looks like bullschitt here too.
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    the author of two books, The Secret History of Rock (Billboard) and The Everything Bicycle Book (Adams). As well as The Jewish Family Fun Book: Holiday Projects, Everyday Activities, and Travel Ideas with Jewish Themes (Jewish Lights) with his wife Danielle Dardashti."



    Um, Guzzo wrote a book about the dirty souf?!?!?!?!?!
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    addendum...

    "Third Coast"?

    Timbaland? THE FUCK?

    How 'bout Timbaland's from VA, down here on the third coast we don't consider VA to even be southern. And ATL definitely ain't third coasting.

    You can't judge a book by it's cover, but damn, this shit is looking real bad right about now.
  • idiotproofidiotproof 880 Posts
    Thanks guys. I don't know enough about that scene to know what would be legit or not.
    I was skeptical & you confirmed it.
    I will not add to Amazon wish list... Ha!

    The authour didn't look qualified.
  • white_teawhite_tea 3,262 Posts
    Maybe a Hillary Clinton graemlin is in order?

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    Maybe a Hillary Clinton graemlin is in order?


    This ain't even carpet bagging. This is more like dude did a google search on "dirty south" and used the first 4 or 5 hits in the cover design. That cover is like keyword mania.

    1. Third Coast
    2. Outakst
    3. Timbaland (the fuck?)
    4. Iced out grill
  • idiotproofidiotproof 880 Posts
    So I guess Virginia isn't a part of the Dirty South scene. Had me confused, but I just thought I didn't know.
    VA is a pit poptarty & clean to be dirty yeah?
  • jdeezjdeez 638 Posts



    i'm [/b] not sayin...



    i'm just sayin.
  • jleejlee 1,539 Posts
    or even like....



    I rep the "indian" territory.
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Anything north of Pflugerville...fuggitaboudit.
  • white_teawhite_tea 3,262 Posts
    Dakota Territory-area heads making serious moves in '06.
  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts



    i'm [/b] not sayin...



    i'm just sayin.

    i thought that a part of nj was below the mason dixon line?

    does that mean noz lives in the dirty dirty?
  • DelayDelay 4,530 Posts
    CRAZY TALK!

    Richmond was the Capital of the confederacy. Central VA is said to be more "southern" than NC and SC. recognize.
  • hogginthefogghogginthefogg 6,098 Posts
    I rep the "indian" territory.





    B/W


    Why is West Texas so windy?

    'Cause Oklahoma sucks! (j/k, jlee)
  • jdeezjdeez 638 Posts
    I rep the "indian" territory.





    B/W


    Why is West Texas so windy?

    'Cause Oklahoma sucks! (j/k, jlee)


    it's funny 'cause it's true.


    VA Beach = Third Coast.
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    Central VA is said to be more "southern" than NC and SC. recognize.

    I'm inclined to say whoever you're quoting is full of shit
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts

    VA Beach = Third Coast.


    The comedy of it all...
  • smokedogsmokedog 34 Posts
    Maybe you shit talkers should read the book first before trashing it.

    I haven't read it yet, but roni did interview my man blowfly for it -- which is more than I can say for all the so-called funk and rap histories that barely (if it all) acknowledge the man who started the rap game when the south bronx folks were still in short pants.
  • SouthCrackalackSouthCrackalack 3,853 Posts
    CRAZY TALK!

    Richmond was the Capital of the confederacy. Central VA is said to be more "southern" than NC and SC. recognize.

    that's hard to imagine
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    which is more than I can say for all the so-called funk and rap histories that barely (if it all) acknowledge the man who started the rap game when the south bronx folks were still in short pants.



    Damn I mean I respect blowfly and all but I don't think he had all that much to do with hip-hop, no more than say "signifying monkey", richard pryor, fatback band, or James Brown.

    "Hip-Hop started in the south"?





  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    acknowledge the man who started the rap game when the south bronx folks were still in short pants.

    We say words like mackadocious...not short pants.
  • jdeezjdeez 638 Posts
    As well as The Jewish Family Fun Book: Holiday Projects, Everyday Activities, and Travel Ideas with Jewish Themes (Jewish Lights) with his wife Danielle Dardashti."


  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    Maybe you shit talkers should read the book first before trashing it.

    I haven't read it yet, but roni did interview my man blowfly for it -- which is more than I can say for all the so-called funk and rap histories that barely (if it all) acknowledge the man who started the rap game when the south bronx folks were still in short pants.

    You're showing your short pant(ie)s.

    So OutKast, Timbaland and Blowfly now = third coast rap?
  • smokedogsmokedog 34 Posts
    Blowfly rapped to funk beats in the 60s and had hits with them in the 70s. Listen to "Fuck the boss" "Rapp dirty," "Convoy" and "Porno Freak." That's rap music.

    Ask any OG rapper when they first heard rap on a record, and 8-9 times out of 10 it'll be Blowfly. I've heard it from the lips of Devin The Dude, Snoop and Slug - and most of the first wave guys would say them same.

    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.

    The signifying monkey is a comedy routine / wino legend. It's not music. Big difference.
  • smokedogsmokedog 34 Posts
    hey cashless - im 35 and i play with the man who started the game you follow - that you clearly don;t know shit about.

    I've been in the music game for 15 years - so put that in your pipe and smoke it - that rag weed you're rolling with couldn't get a fratboy high.
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts

    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.




    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Blowfly rapped to funk beats in the 60s and had hits with them in the 70s. Listen to "Fuck the boss" "Rapp dirty," "Convoy" and "Porno Freak." That's rap music.

    Ask any OG rapper when they first heard rap on a record, and 8-9 times out of 10 it'll be Blowfly. I've heard it from the lips of Devin The Dude, Snoop and Slug - and most of the first wave guys would say them same.

    So yes, rap music began in the south. Hip hop is a culture new yorkers built around it.

    The signifying monkey is a comedy routine / wino legend. It's not music. Big difference.

    I actually like any take that credits the South with the creation of rap music over New Yorkers, BUT...
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    hey cashless - im 35 and i play with the man who started the game you follow - that you clearly don;t know shit about.

    I've been in the music game for 15 years - so put that in your pipe and smoke it - that rag weed you're rolling with couldn't get a fratboy high.

    you sound mad dumb right about now.
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