How do Yall feel about Alito? (NRR)
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Ive actually been watching the proceedings this time, and honestly, i dont think he seems like that bad of a guy. Of course he basicly dodges any question that would indicate how he feels about anything, but he does so in a way that indicates to me that he will take a mostly non partisan stance on most of the issues. Im a little worried about some of his views, but i think he respects the concept of the precedence of some decisions. Id be interested to hear what some of yall lawyers think about him, cause I sometimes get lost in the mumbo jumbo. Id still rather have him though than any member of our crackpot congress, democrat or republican. Your thoughts?
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I know they had some practice hearings. But I dont know that they are dictating what his opinion should be. Im sure theres some politics involved, but it does seem like there are many senators there that would vote no on anyone bush happened to appoint.
Is he really that bad?
P.S. WHats Starry Decisis?
I could be wrong, im pretty ignorant about alot of that stuff, thats why im asking peoples opinions.
stare decisis is basically the principle that a judge will follow settled precedent. so, for example, a few years ago Rehnquist wrote an opinion which upheld a suspect's Miranda rights ("You have the right to remain silent. . .") even though he personally believed that the Constitution did not require such warnings because it was settled law.
Grandstanding and overdramatizing things for the cameras.
Right now I want to recall a bunch of Democratic and republican senators and replace them some B-list actors with gray beards
May as well, it's all running off a script. I'm gonna start practicing my Spanish.
i wouldn't tell boxer or feinstein that.
I think someone should
Kennedy keeps his frilly
i hear you on that. . .but Kennedy did raise a good point about Alioto's failure to recuse himself on the mutual fund matter even though he promised the judiciary committee he would during his court of appeal nomination proceeding.
Overall, I think he's a basic conservative justice. Not on the hard right like Scalia and Thomas, but still on the right. He's talked about the unitary exectuive theory which is a conservative argument that the President as the chief executive has far ranging powers. This means he can fire people in the executive or who work for the executive which I don't think many people would mind. It's also been used to say that the President can declare war without Congress and that he can break treaties that the U.S. has signed which are American law such as the Geneva Convention's prohibitions against torture in times of war. A couple times he's also talked like a strict constructionism which is the view of Scalia that you need to go back to what the wriers of the Constitution originally thought, rather than basing your decisions on how the law and courts have interpreted that law over time. Both of those are pretty right-wing positions. On the other hand, he's also said that the President isn't above the law.
His appointment, which I see as a done deal will tilt the court to the right, but I think that was inevitable with Reagan x2, Bush, then Bush x2 for presidents.
How far we have come when nowadays we have a CNN poll questioning people on whether or not they think the Democrats are being too hard on Alito...
I guess, but i mean, 12 years had passed, and even then there was nothing really requiring that he do so. Ethics commitees agreed on that, so what we have then is the fact that this dude broke a promise once. Wow, im sure none of the senators present have ever done something that bad!
true, but i hold judges to higher standards than policiticans. the appearance of impartiality comes with the gig.
basically he's saying that amount of discrimination against black people is about the same as the discrimination against left handed people.
He was also part of this organization in his collegiant years, 'Concerned Alumni of Princeton', a conservative group founded because of the influx of minorities and women on the campus (this is 1972, then times were a changin').
Here's a quote from their magazine at the time, "Prospect":
Haven't czecked the hearing footage but dude sounds
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Cosign (surrious)....Look who's sitting right behind him through the hearings. That venal fuck Dan Burton (rotten to the core). Specter and the other Republicans sit there and throw him softball questions and the Fox News gang gets their underwear twisted about how mean the Democrats are. It's a fucking dog and pony show with a largely foregone conclusion.
Let's all sit back and watch as Alito (a good little Republican soldier) casts the deciding vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.
It looks like the cover to a horror novel...
Agreed...it's like everyone just goes through the motions, the Dems act all confrontational for a few days and then when it's over just vote for the dude.
I don't think they have the votes to block him, their only power is the filibuster... which I certainly hope they're considering using??
Dude was part of the Reagan administration, and seems to be opposed to giving women and minorities equal rights in general... thats enough for me...
what has he done or said to make you think that he is opposed to giving them equal rights?
That's a job requirement--it doesn't exactly go in the plus column.
If you've been following the story at all you ought to be well aware of this, its been discussed for some time now:
Judge Alito Has Taken Positions That Would Undermine Critical Anti-Discrimination Protections for Women - National Women's Law Center
Judge Samuel Alito: A Troubling Record on Civil Rights - IndependentCourt.org
I don't have time to link the articles myself but they're from the website listed above
I guess you don't know much about the South- its a lot bigger than Alabama
once again, hightening the discourse...
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