anybody know about this? (will oldham related)

SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
edited January 2006 in Strut Central

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  • BamboucheBambouche 1,484 Posts
    I was waiting for the Louisville episode in the Burn to Shine series. I wish I was Will in this picture...



  • aleitaleit 1,915 Posts
    tangential- but i always loved young will oldham as the adolescent preacher in Matewan, a solid movie all around.

    i recently met a guy who recorded much of the early palace stuff in his home and played drums (??) with 'em.

  • aleitaleit 1,915 Posts
    tangential- but i always loved young will oldham as the adolescent preacher in Matewan, a solid movie all around.

    i recently met a guy who recorded much of the early palace stuff in his home and played drums (??) with 'em.

  • tangential- but i always loved young will oldham as the adolescent preacher in Matewan, a solid movie all around.

    i recently met a guy who recorded much of the early palace stuff in his home and played drums (??) with 'em.

    I was gonna post the same thing (about Matewan). Great flick, probably my favorite by Sayles.

    Second Palace album and the song "Ridin'" are my shit.

  • BamboucheBambouche 1,484 Posts
    tangential- but


    "... did you ever notice, the kind of thoughts I got?"


  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    yes. i've been a fan for quite a while, and although some of his recent recordings have seemed a tad outlandish, he's still never really sold out or anything. that viva last blues album makes me choke up sometimes.

  • BamboucheBambouche 1,484 Posts
    some of his recent recordings have seemed a tad outlandish


    Superwolf? Get on that level. Nothing Tad or Outlandish.

    "I know nothing and I'm overjoyed"

  • parsecparsec 5,087 Posts
    Get on that level.


  • yes. i've been a fan for quite a while, and although some of his recent recordings have seemed a tad outlandish, he's still never really sold out or anything. that viva last blues album makes me choke up sometimes.

    "new partner" is my shit.

    dude did put on one of the worst shows i've ever seen though,
    touring behind that album.
    none of his band could play,
    they all looked like dudes he picked up at truckstops
    along the way.


  • TNGTNG 234 Posts

    they all looked like dudes he picked up at truckstops
    along the way.

    Funny you should say that. When the tour swung through Baltimore I had a chat with the bass player. He said he'd been on the tour for a day and a half and had met Will at a house party in Virginia.


  • BamboucheBambouche 1,484 Posts

    they all looked like dudes he picked up at truckstops
    along the way.

    Funny you should say that. When the tour swung through Baltimore I had a chat with the bass player. He said he'd been on the tour for a day and a half and had met Will at a house party in Virginia.


    This is exactly why I find it so endearing. At this point, he is in the position to just drive from town to town playing the Palace/Bonnie standards set. But he doesn't. I will grudgingly concede that seeing him live with a band (especially at the top of a tour) can be laughable. I also understand why it can be too much for some. He is still making music in a way that keeps him interested in the moment and uncertain of the outcome. This is laudable, in my opinion. We can argue about the results, but he is genuine -- even when making nonsense.

    An example. I saw him open for Bjork. Standing there, thinking, "Just what the fuck is he doing?" Standing there all by himself on the stage, with an autoharp (an autoharp for fuck's sake!), singing himself silly to a stadium full of teenagers who all had the "when do the drums come in?"-look on their face.

    Later, much later, like... months later, a friend told me this story:


    Before the Bjork tour, Will met with Bjork and all of her "people" to iron out the details of the tour. When the promoter (or whomever) asked Will how many people he'd have in his band, he said, "Just one--just me."

    "So," the guy said, "you'll be accompanying yourself on the guitar then?"

    "No," Will replied. "I'll be accompanying myself on the autoharp."

    There was a period of total silence before the guy said, "I can't tell you how bad of an idea I think that is."

    What's even funnier is that, when I told that anecdote to D****n R***a, he said, "Yeah, I was over at Will's right before he flew out to join that tour. He was pacing back and forth, waiting for an autoharp to arrive by Federal Express. Then, after it had come and he was ready to leave for real, he darted back into the house and grabbed a How to Teach Yourself the Autoharp book off of his coffee table and tossed it into his bag."



    Again, I can see why this could be too much, but it's a reason I love him. The reason I love him is this song.


    (April 14, 2003 [color:white]my ex-girlfriend called me to tell me that my dear friend Chuck had hung himself in an almond orchard behind another dead friend's grandmother's house. That was my last big cry. I spent the next few weeks on the phone with my friends -- Chuck's friends. We talked about what, I guess, you would typically talk about when someone you love kills himself: guilt, the "last time we talked," his family, other friends, guilt, grief. Some of us are doing better than others. The day-to-day aspect of living with someone's dead memories isn't so poetic or pretty. I resent music that tries to help me "understand" these situations. Some time after Chuck's funeral, this song happened to be on, and all at once it all rushed back. One of those crying in public moments. There's those songs that try to be sad and then there's those songs that just tell you what they think and let you decide how to feel about it. This is one of those songs. I've spent a lot of time in the last few years talking with my remaining friends about this darkness and what it's done to our lives. [/color] I don't think anyone has ever explained it better than Oldham.)





    Many times
    We've been out drinking
    And many times
    We've shared our thoughts
    But did you ever, ever notice
    The kind of thoughts I got

    Well you know I have a love
    A love for everyone I know
    And you know I have a drive
    To live I won't let go
    But can you see it's opposition
    Comes a-rising up sometimes









































    damn the branches that refuse to break


  • DubiousDubious 1,865 Posts
    louisville

    ugh

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