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  • In the end consumer's aren't willing to pay for the difference.

    Everyone wants goods that are as inexpensive as possible (while still reasonable in quality). Because they can pay 25 cents a day elsewhere pretty much fucks us, because no one is going to take a stand and pay $50 for a pack of Haines underwear just to have it made in the US.

    That's the problem, the cost shouldn't pass on to the consumer, the CORPORATION should incur it, they are rich enough to pay for it, but capitalism says they need to maximize profits. Passing off costs to the consumer is just bullshit. It is possible, we just need to install firmer Pigovian taxes, but good luck getting that passed in Congress, sigh.

    in most other countries, working for pennies is the norm and they feel no grief about it.

    Spoken like a true out of touch with the rest of the world American. You think other countries like that their populations are in abject poverty, not having health care or food to eat besides rice. I'm not saying all these people need or want air conditioners or bmw's, but acess to drinking water that's not 10 miles away, less pollution, decent housing, better schools, etc. Again its possible but capitalist greed on behalf of corps and some countries governments stops it. The world needs restructuring, shit is complex. Venezuela's starting and look at how the US views Chavez.

  • This is what it is in Ontario

    * General Workers Minimum Wage - $7.45 per hour

    * Liquor Server Minimum Wage - $6.50 per hour. Applies to employees serving liquor directly to customers in licensed premises as a regular part of their work).

    * Student Minimum Wage - $6.95 per hour (Note: Applies to students under age 18. If more than 28 hours a week are worked during the school year, the General Minimum Wage applies to all hours worked in that week.)

    * Homeworkers Minimum Wage - $8.20 per hour or 110 per cent of the general minimum wage. (Note: This wage applies to all homeworkers whether they are full-time or part-time, or students under 18 years of age).

    * Hunting and Fishing Guides are paid for blocks of time, not by the hour. They get a minimum amount for working less than five consecutive hours in a day, and a different minimum amount for working five hours or more in a day-whether or not the hours are consecutive. For working less than five consecutive hours in a day: $37.25. For working five hours or more in a day: $74.50.

    is this in looonies or US$

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
    i totally think the wage should be increased by a lot say to 11 dollars an hour. but the thing is the logic of the companies is if they raise wages they will go out of business. then you won't have a job at all.

    of course now we have the thing where companies can threaten to go overseas to third world countries(where the wages are even lower) to break unions and keep people working for pitance.

    i also have a big frown on my face.

    In the end consumer's aren't willing to pay for the difference.

    Everyone wants goods that are as inexpensive as possible (while still reasonable in quality). Because they can pay 25 cents a day elsewhere pretty much fucks us, because no one is going to take a stand and pay $50 for a pack of Haines underwear just to have it made in the US.

    Also keep in mind that in a global marketplace, with as much importing and exporting going on as there is, there's no way the US could be competitive for most shit. Why? Because in most other countries, working for pennies is the norm and they feel no grief about it.

    We're the Beverly Hills / CEO of the world.

    This is a complex issue. If a minimum wage raise fixes all problems, why not just raise it to $20 an hour? Obviously as Dave pointed out, this brings problems with it. The problems at the root have to be addressed. Labor in the US has been horribly marginalized over the last 25 years and we are paying the price. And the issue of cheap labor abroad and undocumented workers in the US figures in heavily.
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