yeh its $6.75 or $6.50 nationally... something in there. Even so its horrible and doesn't fuckin work. Its fuckin shameful that companies will not pay a decent living wage. Unforgiveable really.
Well, a lil googling and I saw you're right...$5.15 IS the fed minimum wage, which is sickening...you can't feed a cat for that...$6.75 is the minimum in my home state of Taxachusetts...
governor schwarznegger vetoed a bill that would have raised minimum wage in california. nuff said about that guys priorities.
dave
Fuck Schwarzenegger... i couldn't vote in that election but the fact he even was elected says alot about the mentality of people. I don't think that fool will make it another term. he has pissed off alot of factions in the state.
governor schwarznegger vetoed a bill that would have raised minimum wage in california. nuff said about that guys priorities.
dave
Fuck Schwarzenegger... i couldn't vote in that election but the fact he even was elected says alot about the mentality of people. I don't think that fool will make it another term. he has pissed off alot of factions in the state.
how come you couldn't vote ? his approval rating is about 37 percent, even lower than bush's
Some Americans complain about welfare, and think that those on it are lazy people who refuse to get jobs because they get government checks. Then when those on welfare get jobs, they are paid minimum wage which keeps them in and out of the poverty line, forcing many to go back to welfare. Employers refuse to raise their wages because they think that if they do, their employees won't work as hard. This is just fucked up victorious capitalism, where bottom lines and profit margins are what matter most.
Some Americans complain about welfare, and think that those on it are lazy people who refuse to get jobs because they get government checks. Then when those on welfare get jobs, they are paid minimum wage which keeps them in and out of the poverty line, forcing many to go back to welfare. Employers refuse to raise their wages because they think that if they do, their employees won't work as hard. This is just fucked up victorious capitalism, where bottom lines and profit margins are what matter most.
these dumb motherfuckers need to be told that if they work hard enough they can accomplish anything. at least that's what someone told me on here last week.
Minimum wage is llllllllong overdue for a rise. Especially with gasoline going up so much. People that rely on their cars to commute or people that use their cars for their jobs (delivery people) are getting hit hhhhhhard.
Does anyone here work as a pizza delivery person? What do you do about gas? Do all your tips pay for it now? Is the pizza place giving you a gas stipend?
these dumb motherfuckers need to be told that if they work hard enough they can accomplish anything. at least that's what someone told me on here last week.
2005 HHS Poverty Guidelines Persons in Family Unit 48 Contiguous States and D.C. Alaska Hawaii 1 $ 9,570 $11,950 $11,010 2 12,830 16,030 14,760 3 16,090 20,110 18,510 4 19,350 24,190 22,260 5 22,610 28,270 26,010 6 25,870 32,350 29,760 7 29,130 36,430 33,510 8 32,390 40,510 37,260 For each additional person, add 3,260 4,080 3,750
This means a person living alone, working full time without a day off will be just above the poverty rate. If they pay 33% of their wages on rent (about $300 a month) that leaves them $138.00 a week for utilities, health care, transportion and food. WELCOME TO AMERICA!
The 1996 amendments increased the minimum wage to $4.75 an hour on October 1, 1996, and to $5.15 an hour on September 1, 1997. The amendments also established a youth sub minimum wage of $4.25 an hour for newly hired employees under age 20 during their first 90 consecutive calendar days after being hired by their employer;
That means that kids working summer jobs get $4.25 an hour.
revised the tip credit provisions to allow employers to pay qualifying tipped employees no less than $2.13 per hour if they received the remainder of the statutory minimum wage in tips
That means that if you work for tips your employeer can manipulate your wage to keep your wage plus tips at minimum wage.
Employees in the agriculture industry are exempt from the overtime requirements. Any employer who does not use more than 500 ???man days??? of farm labor during any calendar quarter of the preceding calendar year is exempt from paying the minimum wage. A ???man day??? is defined when an employee performs at least one hour of work. Agricultural employees who are members of the immediate family of the employer are not covered by the standard. Those principally employed on the range for production livestock are exempt from the minimum wage standard. Local hand harvest laborers who commute daily from their permanent residence and are paid on a piece rate basis in traditional piece-rated occupations, and who were engaged in agriculture less than 13 weeks during the preceding calendar year, are exempt from the minimum wage standard. Non-local minors under the age of 16, who are hand harvesters and paid on a piece rate basis in traditional piece-rated occupations, employed on the same farm as their parents, and paid the same rate as those over the age of 16 are exempt from the minimum wage requirement.
That means that there is no minimum wage for migrant farm workers.
Tony, what is up with PA? I thought you were a big union state.
By the way current Oregon minimum wage is $7.25 an hour.
governor schwarznegger vetoed a bill that would have raised minimum wage in california. nuff said about that guys priorities.
dave
Fuck Schwarzenegger... i couldn't vote in that election but the fact he even was elected says alot about the mentality of people. I don't think that fool will make it another term. he has pissed off alot of factions in the state.
how come you couldn't vote ? his approval rating is about 37 percent, even lower than bush's
dave
I was registered in NC and had just claimed residency in CA when the vote went down.
That means that there is no minimum wage for migrant farm workers.
Tony, what is up with PA? I thought you were a big union state.
dan, we have a strong republican legislature in this god forsaken state. you do the math.
$5.15 minimum wage = modern day share cropping subsistance living
if those tax cutting "put more money in your pockets" scumbags weren't a bunch of damned hypocrites, they'd lift that shit.
i got a big frown on my face right now
what the fuck is up with kansas, s.carolina and tennessee????
They have the same minimum wage as you, i think. The difference is yours is mandated by the state as well as the feds, theirs is mandate only by the feds. That's my guess.
Some Americans complain about welfare, and think that those on it are lazy people who refuse to get jobs because they get government checks. Then when those on welfare get jobs, they are paid minimum wage which keeps them in and out of the poverty line, forcing many to go back to welfare. Employers refuse to raise their wages because they think that if they do, their employees won't work as hard. This is just fucked up victorious capitalism, where bottom lines and profit margins are what matter most.
i totally think the wage should be increased by a lot say to 11 dollars an hour. but the thing is the logic of the companies is if they raise wages they will go out of business. then you won't have a job at all.
of course now we have the thing where companies can threaten to go overseas to third world countries(where the wages are even lower) to break unions and keep people working for pitance.
billbradleyYou want BBQ sauce? Get the fuck out of my house. 2,906 Posts
My first job back in 1989 I made $3.35/hr (minimum wage back then)
While working that job minimum wage was raised to $3.80 an hour but companies that didn't gross more than $250,000 a year didn't have to meet that raise immediately. So my boss met me half-way and gave me $3.50/hr. Ain't that a bitch. Luckily I've come a long way since then. I can definitely feel for those that are working for minimum wage though.
The US has the highest child poverty rate among first world countries. Louisiana has higher infant mortality rate than Cuba. If I'm right the % of Americans in poverty has gone up 4% since Bush took office.
* Liquor Server Minimum Wage - $6.50 per hour. Applies to employees serving liquor directly to customers in licensed premises as a regular part of their work).
* Student Minimum Wage - $6.95 per hour (Note: Applies to students under age 18. If more than 28 hours a week are worked during the school year, the General Minimum Wage applies to all hours worked in that week.)
* Homeworkers Minimum Wage - $8.20 per hour or 110 per cent of the general minimum wage. (Note: This wage applies to all homeworkers whether they are full-time or part-time, or students under 18 years of age).
* Hunting and Fishing Guides are paid for blocks of time, not by the hour. They get a minimum amount for working less than five consecutive hours in a day, and a different minimum amount for working five hours or more in a day-whether or not the hours are consecutive. For working less than five consecutive hours in a day: $37.25. For working five hours or more in a day: $74.50.
kansas' minimum wage is $2.65/hour. no wonder they vote republican
The federal minimum is $5.15. So everyone is guaranteed $5.15, and then if a state or locality would like to raise it beyond that they can (and sometimes do). On the other hand, $2.65 doesn't mean anything, it just means they didn't feel like moving it above the federal $5.15 line (the default).
i totally think the wage should be increased by a lot say to 11 dollars an hour. but the thing is the logic of the companies is if they raise wages they will go out of business. then you won't have a job at all.
of course now we have the thing where companies can threaten to go overseas to third world countries(where the wages are even lower) to break unions and keep people working for pitance.
i also have a big frown on my face.
In the end consumer's aren't willing to pay for the difference.
Everyone wants goods that are as inexpensive as possible (while still reasonable in quality). Because they can pay 25 cents a day elsewhere pretty much fucks us, because no one is going to take a stand and pay $50 for a pack of Haines underwear just to have it made in the US.
Also keep in mind that in a global marketplace, with as much importing and exporting going on as there is, there's no way the US could be competitive for most shit. Why? Because in most other countries, working for pennies is the norm and they feel no grief about it.
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dave
http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm
$5.15 is pretty low. when i was applying for jobs back in the dead zone recession years of 91-92 minimum wage was about $5.00
meanwhile gas prices have gone from about 1.20 in 91 to 3.10 in 2005.
Fuck Schwarzenegger... i couldn't vote in that election but the fact he even was elected says alot about the mentality of people. I don't think that fool will make it another term. he has pissed off alot of factions in the state.
kansas' minimum wage is $2.65/hour. no wonder they vote republican
how come you couldn't vote ? his approval rating is about 37 percent, even lower than bush's
dave
Some Americans complain about welfare, and think that those on it are lazy people who refuse to get jobs because they get government checks. Then when those on welfare get jobs, they are paid minimum wage which keeps them in and out of the poverty line, forcing many to go back to welfare. Employers refuse to raise their wages because they think that if they do, their employees won't work as hard.
This is just fucked up victorious capitalism, where bottom lines and profit margins are what matter most.
these dumb motherfuckers need to be told that if they work hard enough they can accomplish anything. at least that's what someone told me on here last week.
oh and read up on your read ups before you decide to retell history to fit your views
Does anyone here work as a pizza delivery person? What do you do about gas? Do all your tips pay for it now? Is the pizza place giving you a gas stipend?
You girls need to take it outside, and leave the rest of us alone!
This means a person living alone, working full time without a day off will be just above the poverty rate. If they pay 33% of their wages on rent (about $300 a month) that leaves them $138.00 a week for utilities, health care, transportion and food. WELCOME TO AMERICA!
That means that kids working summer jobs get $4.25 an hour.
That means that if you work for tips your employeer can manipulate your wage to keep your wage plus tips at minimum wage.
That means that there is no minimum wage for migrant farm workers.
Tony, what is up with PA? I thought you were a big union state.
By the way current Oregon minimum wage is $7.25 an hour.
Dan
I was registered in NC and had just claimed residency in CA when the vote went down.
dan, we have a strong republican legislature in this god forsaken state. you do the math.
$5.15 minimum wage = modern day share cropping subsistance living
if those tax cutting "put more money in your pockets" scumbags weren't a bunch of damned hypocrites, they'd lift that shit.
i got a big frown on my face right now
what the fuck is up with kansas, s.carolina and tennessee????
They have the same minimum wage as you, i think. The difference is yours is mandated by the state as well as the feds, theirs is mandate only by the feds. That's my guess.
Dan
i totally think the wage should be increased by a lot say to 11 dollars an hour. but the thing is the logic of the companies is if they raise wages they will go out of business. then you won't have a job at all.
of course now we have the thing where companies can threaten to go overseas to third world countries(where the wages are even lower) to break unions and keep people working for pitance.
i also have a big frown on my face.
my regards to n***y
While working that job minimum wage was raised to $3.80 an hour but companies that didn't gross more than $250,000 a year didn't have to meet that raise immediately. So my boss met me half-way and gave me $3.50/hr. Ain't that a bitch. Luckily I've come a long way since then. I can definitely feel for those that are working for minimum wage though.
The US has the highest child poverty rate among first world countries. Louisiana has higher infant mortality rate than Cuba. If I'm right the % of Americans in poverty has gone up 4% since Bush took office.
Dan
a UNITED STATES TERRITORY is .......
$2.68/hr.
Keep in mind that garments made by these slaves can be legally labeled "Made in the USA".
* General Workers Minimum Wage - $7.45 per hour
* Liquor Server Minimum Wage - $6.50 per hour. Applies to employees serving liquor directly to customers in licensed premises as a regular part of their work).
* Student Minimum Wage - $6.95 per hour (Note: Applies to students under age 18. If more than 28 hours a week are worked during the school year, the General Minimum Wage applies to all hours worked in that week.)
* Homeworkers Minimum Wage - $8.20 per hour or 110 per cent of the general minimum wage. (Note: This wage applies to all homeworkers whether they are full-time or part-time, or students under 18 years of age).
* Hunting and Fishing Guides are paid for blocks of time, not by the hour. They get a minimum amount for working less than five consecutive hours in a day, and a different minimum amount for working five hours or more in a day-whether or not the hours are consecutive. For working less than five consecutive hours in a day: $37.25. For working five hours or more in a day: $74.50.
The federal minimum is $5.15. So everyone is guaranteed $5.15, and then if a state or locality would like to raise it beyond that they can (and sometimes do). On the other hand, $2.65 doesn't mean anything, it just means they didn't feel like moving it above the federal $5.15 line (the default).
In the end consumer's aren't willing to pay for the difference.
Everyone wants goods that are as inexpensive as possible (while still reasonable in quality). Because they can pay 25 cents a day elsewhere pretty much fucks us, because no one is going to take a stand and pay $50 for a pack of Haines underwear just to have it made in the US.
Also keep in mind that in a global marketplace, with as much importing and exporting going on as there is, there's no way the US could be competitive for most shit. Why? Because in most other countries, working for pennies is the norm and they feel no grief about it.
We're the Beverly Hills / CEO of the world.