Brown relieved of duties

djdazedjdaze 3,099 Posts
edited September 2005 in Strut Central
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050909/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/katrina_brownnot exactly what I wanted to read when I saw the headline, but still a good start.

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  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    have you heard about the Time Magazine Expose on him thats coming out in the next issue?

    NPR reported so many fucked up things about this dude its not even funny (well actually it is funny)

  • GOOD RIDDANCE.

  • mandrewmandrew 2,720 Posts
    that's great news. hopefully just the beginning of some folks having to take a smidgen of responsiblity for their horrendous failures. and much better than bush giving him a medal of honor (a la george tenet).

  • Read the articles I posted about FEMA in this thread.

    http://soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=432375&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1

    Fucking disgraceful...

  • pknypkny 549 Posts








    From the AP:



    Less than an hour before Brown's removal came to light, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Brown had not resigned and the president had not asked for his resignation.



    McClellan did not directly answer a question about whether the president had full confidence in Brown.



    "We appreciate all those who are working round the clock, and that's the way I would answer it," he said.



    Wow, this is the closest we've seen ANYONE in the Bush administration have to deal with the repercussions of their (in)actions...and I pray it only the start.

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,475 Posts
    Scott McClellan is such a douchebag. That thing about how he "did not directly answer a question about whether the president had full confidence in Brown?" This is the transcript:

    Reporter: Scott, does the president retain confidence in his FEMA director and secretary of Homeland Security?


    McClellan: And again, David, see, this is where some people want to look at the blame game issue, and finger-point. We're focused on solving problems, and we're doing everything we can --


    Reporter: What about the question?


    McClellan: We're doing everything we can in support --


    Reporter: We know all that.


    McClellan: -- of the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA.


    Reporter: Does he retain complete confidence --


    McClellan: We're going to continue. We appreciate the great effort that all of those at FEMA, including the head of FEMA, are doing to help the people in the region. And I'm just not going to engage in the blame game or finger-pointing that you're trying to get me to engage.


    Reporter: OK, but that's not at all what I was asking.


    McClellan: Sure it is. It's exactly what you're trying to play.


    Reporter: You have your same point you want to make about the blame game, which you've said enough now. I'm asking you a direct question, which you're dodging.


    McClellan: No --


    Reporter: Does the president retain complete confidence in his director of FEMA and secretary of Homeland Security, yes or no?


    McClellan: I just answered the question.


    Reporter: Is the answer "yes" on both?


    McClellan: And what you're doing is trying to engage in a game of finger-pointing --


    Reporter: There's a lot of criticism. I'm just wondering if he still has confidence.


    McClellan: -- and blame-gaming. What we're trying to do is solve problems, David. And that's where we're going to keep our focus.


    Reporter: So you're not -- you won't answer that question directly?


    McClellan: I did. I just did.


    Reporter: No, you didn't. Yes or no? Does he have complete confidence or doesn't he?


    McClellan: No, if you want to continue to engage in finger-pointing and blame-gaming, that's fine --


    Reporter: Scott, that's ridiculous. I'm not engaging in any of that.


    McClellan: It's not ridiculous.


    Reporter: Don't try to accuse me of that. I'm asking you a direct question and you should answer it. Does he retain complete confidence in his FEMA director and secretary of Homeland Security, yes or no?


    McClellan: Like I said, that's exactly what you're engaging in.


    Reporter: I'm not engaging in anything. I'm asking you a question about what the president's views are --


    McClellan: Absolutely -- absolutely --


    Reporter: -- under pretty substantial criticism of members of his administration. OK? And you know that, and everybody watching knows that as well.


    McClellan: No, everybody watching this knows, David, that you're trying to engage in a blame game.


    Reporter: I'm trying to engage?


    McClellan: Yes.


    Reporter: I am trying to engage?


    McClellan: That's correct.

    Tell me you wouldn't want to just jump up and throttle the guy. What a dick.

  • mandrewmandrew 2,720 Posts


    Tell me you wouldn't want to just jump up and throttle the guy. What a dick.

    AYO!

  • Shoot the head and the rest will fall.


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  • Just to clarify, it doesn't appear that Brown has been fired from FEMA, just relieved of the New Orleans project.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050909/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/katrina_brown;_ylt=AtDZq.jOPqnswm6xf9_Ze4Cs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

  • I releived a lot of brown duties yesterday.



  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    Patsy

  • I releived a lot of brown duties yesterday.



    Hee hee! Practically the same thing! I bet the guy is covered with little pieces of corn!

  • Patsy

    yes??[/b]


  • "Blame game" is the new "Flip flop."

  • mandrewmandrew 2,720 Posts
    "Blame game" is the new "Flip flop."

    yeah, i fucking hate the way they're using this phrase along with finger pointing. this administration has a boner for annoying talking points.

    jon stewart had some funny commentary about it the other night...

    "what's that phrase that they use to condescend and belittle anyone trying to question them? what is it? umm...."
    cut to montauge of bush and mcclelland speeches, in which they sputter out different variations on "now i'm not going to get into finger-pointing or engage in the blame game"

    it's got me so frusrated right now, but i just hope there are enuf people who can see through the bullshit that comes out of their collective mouths.

  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    I think we should start finger-pointing and engage in the blame game

  • I think we should start finger-pointing and engage in the blame game

  • DubiousDubious 1,865 Posts
    Patsy

    exactly ...

    how convenient that the gov managed to hire this complete super moron that they can now obviously finger for the blame

    FALL GUY


  • I think we should start finger-pointing and engage in the blame game

    I think this is a great idea. those fucks dont want to get into it cause they know who is gonna be on the end of a hell of alot of fingertips.

    I BLAME YOU GEORGE W!

  • This is absolute horseshit. In Iraq, the government appointed Paul Bremer to oversee reconstruction. Bremer was an insurance guy, who worked in global crisis risk management at my old firm. I don't think this qualified him to be in Iraq. He made several horribly wrong decisions, but all that happened was that he was called back and given a medal and forgotten.

    This guy's going back to Washington and he'll be put in back and probably awarded/rewarded. He should be fired.

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    I think we should start finger-pointing and engage in the blame game

    I think this is a great idea. those fucks dont want to get into it cause they know who is gonna be on the end of a hell of alot of fingertips.

    I BLAME YOU GEORGE W!


    That's the real answer......... "I don't want to get into finger pointing cuz I'm old and it hurts to turn your wrist all the way around and point at yourself."

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    Michael Brown's qualifications on NPR



    From Time Magazine (Time.com)



    How Reliable Is Brown's Resume?

    A TIME investigation reveals discrepancies in the FEMA chief's official biographies

    By DAREN FONDA AND RITA HEALY

    SUBSCRIBE TO TIMEPRINTE-MAILMORE BY AUTHORComplete Coverage: After Katrina



    Posted Thursday, Sep. 08, 2005

    When President Bush nominated Michael Brown to head the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) in 2003, Brown's boss at the time, Joe Allbaugh, declared, "the President couldn't have chosen a better man to help...prepare and protect the nation." But how well was he prepared for the job? Since Hurricane Katrina, the FEMA director has come under heavy criticism for his performance and scrutiny of his background. Now, an investigation by TIME has found discrepancies in his online legal profile and official bio, including a description of Brown released by the White House at the time of his nomination in 2001 to the job as deputy chief of FEMA. On Friday, Brown, who became director of FEMA in 2003, was relieved of his duties handling the Katrina response and was replaced in that role by Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad W. Allen.



    Before joining FEMA, his only previous stint in emergency management, according to his bio posted on FEMA's website, was "serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight." The White House press release from 2001 stated that Brown worked for the city of Edmond, Okla., from 1975 to 1978 "overseeing the emergency services division." In fact, according to Claudia Deakins, head of public relations for the city of Edmond, Brown was an "assistant to the city manager" from 1977 to 1980, not a manager himself, and had no authority over other employees. "The assistant is more like an intern," she told TIME. "Department heads did not report to him." Brown did do a good job at his humble position, however, according to his boss. "Yes. Mike Brown worked for me. He was my administrative assistant. He was a student at Central State University," recalls former city manager Bill Dashner. "Mike used to handle a lot of details. Every now and again I'd ask him to write me a speech. He was very loyal. He was always on time. He always had on a suit and a starched white shirt."



    In response, Nicol Andrews, deputy strategic director in FEMA's office of public affairs, insists that while Brown began as an intern, he became an "assistant city manager" with a distinguished record of service. "According to Mike Brown," she says, "a large portion [of the points raised by TIME] is very inaccurate."



    Brown's lack of experience in emergency management isn't the only apparent bit of padding on his resume, which raises questions about how rigorously the White House vetted him before putting him in charge of FEMA. Under the "honors and awards" section of his profile at FindLaw.com ??? which is information on the legal website provided by lawyers or their offices???he lists "Outstanding Political Science Professor, Central State University". However, Brown "wasn't a professor here, he was only a student here," says Charles Johnson, News Bureau Director in the University Relations office at the University of Central Oklahoma (formerly named Central State University). "He may have been an adjunct instructor," says Johnson, but that title is very different from that of "professor." Carl Reherman, a former political science professor at the University through the '70s and '80s, says that Brown "was not on the faculty." As for the honor of "Outstanding Political Science Professor," Johnson says, "I spoke with the department chair yesterday and he's not aware of it." Johnson could not confirm that Brown made the Dean's list or was an "Outstanding Political Science Senior," as is stated on his online profile.



    Speaking for Brown, Andrews says that Brown has never claimed to be a political science professor, in spite of what his profile in FindLaw indicates. "He was named the outstanding political science senior at Central State, and was an adjunct professor at Oklahoma City School of Law."



    Under the heading of "Professional Associations and Memberships" on FindLaw, Brown states that from 1983 to the present he has been director of the Oklahoma Christian Home, a nursing home in Edmond. But an administrator with the Home told TIME that Brown is "not a person that anyone here is familiar with." She says there was a board of directors until a couple of years ago, but she couldn't find anyone who recalled him being on it. According to FEMA's Andrews, Brown said "he's never claimed to be the director of the home. He was on the board of directors, or governors of the nursing home." However, a veteran employee at the center since 1981 says Brown "was never director here, was never on the board of directors, was never executive director. He was never here in any capacity. I never heard his name mentioned here."



    The FindLaw profile for Brown was amended on Thursday to remove a reference to his tenure at the International Arabian Horse Association, which has become a contested point.



    Brown's FindLaw profile lists a wide range of areas of legal practice, from estate planning to family law to sports. However, one former colleague does not remember Brown's work as sterling. Stephen Jones, a prominent Oklahoma lawyer who was lead defense attorney on the Timothy McVeigh case, was Brown's boss for two-and-a-half years in the early '80s. "He did mainly transactional work, not litigation," says Jones. "There was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow." Jones says when his law firm split, Brown was one of two staffers who was let go.








  • "Blame game" is the new "Flip flop."

    Wasn't that a Shirley Ellis song?

  • "Blame game" is the new "Flip flop."

    Wasn't that a Shirley Ellis song?

    Bush is fucked
    Fo fucked
    Banana manna mo mucked
    Fee fi fo fucked
    Fucked...

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    "He always had on a suit and a starched white shirt."

    "There was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow."


    Well, no wonder Bush put him in charge of FEMA, Bush and Browne share the same qualifications.

  • Big_StacksBig_Stacks "I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
    "He always had on a suit and a starched white shirt."

    "There was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow."


    Well, no wonder Bush put him in charge of FEMA, Bush and Browne share the same qualifications.

    It makes sense that a stupid guy would hire a lacky under him to mindlessly, and without question, carry out his wishes.

    Peace,

    Big Stacks from Kakalak

  • "Blame game" is the new "Flip flop."

    Wasn't that a Shirley Ellis song?

    Bush is fucked
    Fo fucked
    Banana manna mo mucked
    Fee fi fo fucked
    Fucked...
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