Wait, I'm confused. I figure since we are discussing deposing Bush we might as well have a simultaneous discussion about who we might like to see in his place. What's the fuss about? I'm the gadfly.
too early in his career, and as much as I would love to think that a Black contender could BE a contender, I am not convinced, especially after what happened last week. People STILL don't get it.
I like this guy, VA Guv Mark Warner, a moderate Dem, I think he's got a shot
"Our great country is in a terrible downward spiral. We're outsourcing jobs, bankrupting social security, and losing lives at war. We need to focus on what's important-- paying attention to our children, our citizens, our future. We need to think about improving our failing educational system, making better use of our resources, and helping to promote a stable, safe, and tolerant global society. It's time to be smart about our politics. It's time to get America back on track."
washingtonpost.com Tight Constraints on Pentagon's Freedom Walk Event Remembering 9/11, Troops to Be Kept 'Sterile,' Limited to Preregistered
By Petula Dvorak Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, September 9, 2005; A01
Organizers of the Pentagon's 9/11 memorial Freedom Walk on Sunday are taking extraordinary measures to control participation in the march and concert, with the route fenced off and lined with police and the event closed to anyone who does not register online by 4:30 p.m. today.
The march, sponsored by the Department of Defense, will wend its way from the Pentagon to the Mall along a route that has not been specified but will be lined with four-foot-high snow fencing to keep it closed and "sterile," said Allison Barber, deputy assistant secretary of defense.
The U.S. Park Police will have its entire Washington force of several hundred on duty and along the route, on foot, horseback and motorcycles and monitoring from above by helicopter. Officers are prepared to arrest anyone who joins the march or concert without a credential and refuses to leave, said Park Police Chief Dwight E. Pettiford.
The event, the America Supports You Freedom Walk, is billed as a memorial to victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks and a show of support for those serving in the military, topped off with a concert by country singer Clint Black, known for his pro-troops anthem, "Iraq and Roll." Organizers said they expect 3,000 to 10,000 participants.
Barber said that organizers would rather not have such stringent measures on their event but that police had requested them.
Pettiford said officers would patrol to keep interlopers out because the Pentagon restricted the event in its permit application. "That is what their permit called for, so we have those fences to keep the public out."
Once the National Park Service approves the permit, it is normal for police to do what they can to adhere to the organizers' requests. "It's a permitted event. That means [organizers] are allowed to say who is in and who's out," said Sgt. Scott Fear, a Park Police spokesman. He declined to say how many officers were in the Park Police, which had a Washington detail of about 400 two years ago.
What's unusual for an event on the Mall is the combination of fences, required preregistration and the threat of arrest.
Park Police officials said security and safety were concerns, especially because Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld will participate in some of the day's events. They said they have approved a permit for a small group of protesters that plans to stand along Independence Avenue.
Barber at first said this week that event organizers would rather not be so strict but that they were complying with police orders. But yesterday she said Park Police offered two options: Screen participants at the Mall, as police did for the Fourth of July fireworks and concert, where bags would be searched and restricted items such as alcohol, weapons, animals or glass bottles would be seized; or screen them at the Pentagon and, by restricting access throughout the march, "make sure the same people who were screened at the Pentagon are the same people going to the concert," she said.
Barber added: "We didn't want a bottleneck at the concert. We didn't want people to miss the concert while waiting to be screened. So we decided to do the screening at the Pentagon. That means the entire route has to be kept closed."
Some military supporters have welcomed the event as a way to counter the antiwar movement and back the troops abroad. Antiwar groups say they are convinced that the event was orchestrated to boost the war effort and link the war to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks -- and to undercut an antiwar protest planned for Sept. 24.
One restricted group will be the media, whose members will not be allowed to walk along the march route. Reporters and cameras are restricted to three enclosed areas along the route but are not permitted to walk alongside participants walking from the Pentagon, across the Memorial Bridge to the Mall.
The Washington Post and other corporate entities initially signed on as co-sponsors. But critics from within the newspaper and from the antiwar movement said partnering with the Pentagon raised questions about objectivity, and three weeks ago The Post pulled its co-sponsorship.
Other media co-sponsors -- WTOP radio, WJLA-TV and NewsChannel 8 -- support the effort with advertising.
Opponents of the Freedom Walk took issue with the way the Pentagon is staging the event. When the walk first was publicized, participants were required to submit their names, ages, e-mail addresses and home addresses. After some groups accused the Pentagon of using the registration as a recruiting tool for the military, the requirements were changed.
Barber said the government now asks for a full name, age group, T-shirt size and e-mail address (each registered walker will get a T-shirt). Walkers have until 4:30 p.m. today to register, which must be done online ( http://www.asyfreedomwalk.com/ ).
Officials at the Pentagon, where 184 people died in the attack, decided to open the attack site and memorial chapel to the public tomorrow for the first time.
Visitors will be welcome from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. and can see the stone that marks the crash site of American Airlines Flight 77 and the memorial chapel built there.
There is no need to register to visit the memorial chapel tomorrow.
"Our great country is in a terrible downward spiral. We're outsourcing jobs, bankrupting social security, and losing lives at war. We need to focus on what's important-- paying attention to our children, our citizens, our future. We need to think about improving our failing educational system, making better use of our resources, and helping to promote a stable, safe, and tolerant global society. It's time to be smart about our politics. It's time to get America back on track."
washingtonpost.com Tight Constraints on Pentagon's Freedom Walk Event Remembering 9/11, Troops to Be Kept 'Sterile,' Limited to Preregistered
By Petula Dvorak Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, September 9, 2005; A01
Organizers of the Pentagon's 9/11 memorial Freedom Walk on Sunday are taking extraordinary measures to control participation in the march and concert, with the route fenced off and lined with police and the event closed to anyone who does not register online by 4:30 p.m. today.
The march, sponsored by the Department of Defense, will wend its way from the Pentagon to the Mall along a route that has not been specified but will be lined with four-foot-high snow fencing to keep it closed and "sterile," said Allison Barber, deputy assistant secretary of defense.
The U.S. Park Police will have its entire Washington force of several hundred on duty and along the route, on foot, horseback and motorcycles and monitoring from above by helicopter. Officers are prepared to arrest anyone who joins the march or concert without a credential and refuses to leave, said Park Police Chief Dwight E. Pettiford.
The event, the America Supports You Freedom Walk, is billed as a memorial to victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks and a show of support for those serving in the military, topped off with a concert by country singer Clint Black, known for his pro-troops anthem, "Iraq and Roll." Organizers said they expect 3,000 to 10,000 participants.
Barber said that organizers would rather not have such stringent measures on their event but that police had requested them.
Pettiford said officers would patrol to keep interlopers out because the Pentagon restricted the event in its permit application. "That is what their permit called for, so we have those fences to keep the public out."
Once the National Park Service approves the permit, it is normal for police to do what they can to adhere to the organizers' requests. "It's a permitted event. That means [organizers] are allowed to say who is in and who's out," said Sgt. Scott Fear, a Park Police spokesman. He declined to say how many officers were in the Park Police, which had a Washington detail of about 400 two years ago.
What's unusual for an event on the Mall is the combination of fences, required preregistration and the threat of arrest.
Park Police officials said security and safety were concerns, especially because Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld will participate in some of the day's events. They said they have approved a permit for a small group of protesters that plans to stand along Independence Avenue.
Barber at first said this week that event organizers would rather not be so strict but that they were complying with police orders. But yesterday she said Park Police offered two options: Screen participants at the Mall, as police did for the Fourth of July fireworks and concert, where bags would be searched and restricted items such as alcohol, weapons, animals or glass bottles would be seized; or screen them at the Pentagon and, by restricting access throughout the march, "make sure the same people who were screened at the Pentagon are the same people going to the concert," she said.
Barber added: "We didn't want a bottleneck at the concert. We didn't want people to miss the concert while waiting to be screened. So we decided to do the screening at the Pentagon. That means the entire route has to be kept closed."
Some military supporters have welcomed the event as a way to counter the antiwar movement and back the troops abroad. Antiwar groups say they are convinced that the event was orchestrated to boost the war effort and link the war to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks -- and to undercut an antiwar protest planned for Sept. 24.
One restricted group will be the media, whose members will not be allowed to walk along the march route. Reporters and cameras are restricted to three enclosed areas along the route but are not permitted to walk alongside participants walking from the Pentagon, across the Memorial Bridge to the Mall.
The Washington Post and other corporate entities initially signed on as co-sponsors. But critics from within the newspaper and from the antiwar movement said partnering with the Pentagon raised questions about objectivity, and three weeks ago The Post pulled its co-sponsorship.
Other media co-sponsors -- WTOP radio, WJLA-TV and NewsChannel 8 -- support the effort with advertising.
Opponents of the Freedom Walk took issue with the way the Pentagon is staging the event. When the walk first was publicized, participants were required to submit their names, ages, e-mail addresses and home addresses. After some groups accused the Pentagon of using the registration as a recruiting tool for the military, the requirements were changed.
Barber said the government now asks for a full name, age group, T-shirt size and e-mail address (each registered walker will get a T-shirt). Walkers have until 4:30 p.m. today to register, which must be done online ( http://www.asyfreedomwalk.com/ ).
Officials at the Pentagon, where 184 people died in the attack, decided to open the attack site and memorial chapel to the public tomorrow for the first time.
Visitors will be welcome from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. and can see the stone that marks the crash site of American Airlines Flight 77 and the memorial chapel built there.
There is no need to register to visit the memorial chapel tomorrow.
So I guess they'll be marching to a recorded loop of Deutschland Uber Alles???
washingtonpost.com Tight Constraints on Pentagon's Freedom Walk Event Remembering 9/11, Troops to Be Kept 'Sterile,' Limited to Preregistered
By Petula Dvorak Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, September 9, 2005; A01
Organizers of the Pentagon's 9/11 memorial Freedom Walk on Sunday are taking extraordinary measures to control participation in the march and concert, with the route fenced off and lined with police and the event closed to anyone who does not register online by 4:30 p.m. today.
The march, sponsored by the Department of Defense, will wend its way from the Pentagon to the Mall along a route that has not been specified but will be lined with four-foot-high snow fencing to keep it closed and "sterile," said Allison Barber, deputy assistant secretary of defense.
The U.S. Park Police will have its entire Washington force of several hundred on duty and along the route, on foot, horseback and motorcycles and monitoring from above by helicopter. Officers are prepared to arrest anyone who joins the march or concert without a credential and refuses to leave, said Park Police Chief Dwight E. Pettiford.
The event, the America Supports You Freedom Walk, is billed as a memorial to victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks and a show of support for those serving in the military, topped off with a concert by country singer Clint Black, known for his pro-troops anthem, "Iraq and Roll." Organizers said they expect 3,000 to 10,000 participants.
Barber said that organizers would rather not have such stringent measures on their event but that police had requested them.
Pettiford said officers would patrol to keep interlopers out because the Pentagon restricted the event in its permit application. "That is what their permit called for, so we have those fences to keep the public out."
Once the National Park Service approves the permit, it is normal for police to do what they can to adhere to the organizers' requests. "It's a permitted event. That means [organizers] are allowed to say who is in and who's out," said Sgt. Scott Fear, a Park Police spokesman. He declined to say how many officers were in the Park Police, which had a Washington detail of about 400 two years ago.
What's unusual for an event on the Mall is the combination of fences, required preregistration and the threat of arrest.
Park Police officials said security and safety were concerns, especially because Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld will participate in some of the day's events. They said they have approved a permit for a small group of protesters that plans to stand along Independence Avenue.
Barber at first said this week that event organizers would rather not be so strict but that they were complying with police orders. But yesterday she said Park Police offered two options: Screen participants at the Mall, as police did for the Fourth of July fireworks and concert, where bags would be searched and restricted items such as alcohol, weapons, animals or glass bottles would be seized; or screen them at the Pentagon and, by restricting access throughout the march, "make sure the same people who were screened at the Pentagon are the same people going to the concert," she said.
Barber added: "We didn't want a bottleneck at the concert. We didn't want people to miss the concert while waiting to be screened. So we decided to do the screening at the Pentagon. That means the entire route has to be kept closed."
Some military supporters have welcomed the event as a way to counter the antiwar movement and back the troops abroad. Antiwar groups say they are convinced that the event was orchestrated to boost the war effort and link the war to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks -- and to undercut an antiwar protest planned for Sept. 24.
One restricted group will be the media, whose members will not be allowed to walk along the march route. Reporters and cameras are restricted to three enclosed areas along the route but are not permitted to walk alongside participants walking from the Pentagon, across the Memorial Bridge to the Mall.
The Washington Post and other corporate entities initially signed on as co-sponsors. But critics from within the newspaper and from the antiwar movement said partnering with the Pentagon raised questions about objectivity, and three weeks ago The Post pulled its co-sponsorship.
Other media co-sponsors -- WTOP radio, WJLA-TV and NewsChannel 8 -- support the effort with advertising.
Opponents of the Freedom Walk took issue with the way the Pentagon is staging the event. When the walk first was publicized, participants were required to submit their names, ages, e-mail addresses and home addresses. After some groups accused the Pentagon of using the registration as a recruiting tool for the military, the requirements were changed.
Barber said the government now asks for a full name, age group, T-shirt size and e-mail address (each registered walker will get a T-shirt). Walkers have until 4:30 p.m. today to register, which must be done online ( http://www.asyfreedomwalk.com/ ).
Officials at the Pentagon, where 184 people died in the attack, decided to open the attack site and memorial chapel to the public tomorrow for the first time.
Visitors will be welcome from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. and can see the stone that marks the crash site of American Airlines Flight 77 and the memorial chapel built there.
There is no need to register to visit the memorial chapel tomorrow.
So I guess they'll be marching to a recorded loop of Deutschland Uber Alles???
Don't they see they're just asking for shit to happen.
washingtonpost.com Tight Constraints on Pentagon's Freedom Walk Event Remembering 9/11, Troops to Be Kept 'Sterile,' Limited to Preregistered
By Petula Dvorak Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, September 9, 2005; A01
Organizers of the Pentagon's 9/11 memorial Freedom Walk on Sunday are taking extraordinary measures to control participation in the march and concert, with the route fenced off and lined with police and the event closed to anyone who does not register online by 4:30 p.m. today.
The march, sponsored by the Department of Defense, will wend its way from the Pentagon to the Mall along a route that has not been specified but will be lined with four-foot-high snow fencing to keep it closed and "sterile," said Allison Barber, deputy assistant secretary of defense.
The U.S. Park Police will have its entire Washington force of several hundred on duty and along the route, on foot, horseback and motorcycles and monitoring from above by helicopter. Officers are prepared to arrest anyone who joins the march or concert without a credential and refuses to leave, said Park Police Chief Dwight E. Pettiford.
The event, the America Supports You Freedom Walk, is billed as a memorial to victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks and a show of support for those serving in the military, topped off with a concert by country singer Clint Black, known for his pro-troops anthem, "Iraq and Roll." Organizers said they expect 3,000 to 10,000 participants.
Barber said that organizers would rather not have such stringent measures on their event but that police had requested them.
Pettiford said officers would patrol to keep interlopers out because the Pentagon restricted the event in its permit application. "That is what their permit called for, so we have those fences to keep the public out."
Once the National Park Service approves the permit, it is normal for police to do what they can to adhere to the organizers' requests. "It's a permitted event. That means [organizers] are allowed to say who is in and who's out," said Sgt. Scott Fear, a Park Police spokesman. He declined to say how many officers were in the Park Police, which had a Washington detail of about 400 two years ago.
What's unusual for an event on the Mall is the combination of fences, required preregistration and the threat of arrest.
Park Police officials said security and safety were concerns, especially because Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld will participate in some of the day's events. They said they have approved a permit for a small group of protesters that plans to stand along Independence Avenue.
Barber at first said this week that event organizers would rather not be so strict but that they were complying with police orders. But yesterday she said Park Police offered two options: Screen participants at the Mall, as police did for the Fourth of July fireworks and concert, where bags would be searched and restricted items such as alcohol, weapons, animals or glass bottles would be seized; or screen them at the Pentagon and, by restricting access throughout the march, "make sure the same people who were screened at the Pentagon are the same people going to the concert," she said.
Barber added: "We didn't want a bottleneck at the concert. We didn't want people to miss the concert while waiting to be screened. So we decided to do the screening at the Pentagon. That means the entire route has to be kept closed."
Some military supporters have welcomed the event as a way to counter the antiwar movement and back the troops abroad. Antiwar groups say they are convinced that the event was orchestrated to boost the war effort and link the war to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks -- and to undercut an antiwar protest planned for Sept. 24.
One restricted group will be the media, whose members will not be allowed to walk along the march route. Reporters and cameras are restricted to three enclosed areas along the route but are not permitted to walk alongside participants walking from the Pentagon, across the Memorial Bridge to the Mall.
The Washington Post and other corporate entities initially signed on as co-sponsors. But critics from within the newspaper and from the antiwar movement said partnering with the Pentagon raised questions about objectivity, and three weeks ago The Post pulled its co-sponsorship.
Other media co-sponsors -- WTOP radio, WJLA-TV and NewsChannel 8 -- support the effort with advertising.
Opponents of the Freedom Walk took issue with the way the Pentagon is staging the event. When the walk first was publicized, participants were required to submit their names, ages, e-mail addresses and home addresses. After some groups accused the Pentagon of using the registration as a recruiting tool for the military, the requirements were changed.
Barber said the government now asks for a full name, age group, T-shirt size and e-mail address (each registered walker will get a T-shirt). Walkers have until 4:30 p.m. today to register, which must be done online ( http://www.asyfreedomwalk.com/ ).
Officials at the Pentagon, where 184 people died in the attack, decided to open the attack site and memorial chapel to the public tomorrow for the first time.
Visitors will be welcome from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. and can see the stone that marks the crash site of American Airlines Flight 77 and the memorial chapel built there.
There is no need to register to visit the memorial chapel tomorrow.
So I guess they'll be marching to a recorded loop of Deutschland Uber Alles???
Don't they see they're just asking for shit to happen.
Ahhhh... to be in DC with basket of rotten fruit and bail money....
Fuck a 2 party system. They all need to get the boot. All the politicians in Washington are all lying in the same bed... The divide is more for the people's sake to make them think they have a choice... remember Clinton is now buddies with the bushies...
Its going to take a physical overthrowing of the whole upper eschelon of this country and a redistribution of wealth to see any kind of real difference happen. One president is not going to make a difference (even though it's a step in the right difference)...
Fuck a 2 party system. They all need to get the boot. All the politicians in Washington are all lying in the same bed... The divide is more for the people's sake to make them think they have a choice... remember Clinton is now buddies with the bushies...
Its going to take a physical overthrowing of the whole upper eschelon of this country and a redistribution of wealth to see any kind of real difference happen. One president is not going to make a difference (even though it's a step in the right difference)...
Wife Says Criticism of Bush 'Disgusting' Thu Sep 8,10:55 PM ET YahooNews.com
Laura Bush described as "disgusting" comments by rapper Kanye West and Democratic chairman Howard Dean blaming her husband for the disproportionate number of black hurricane victims.
"I think all of those remarks are disgusting, to be perfectly frank, because of course President Bush cares about everyone in our country," the first lady said Thursday in an interview with American Urban Radio Networks.
"And I know that. I mean, I'm the person who lives with him," she said. "I know what he's like and I know what he thinks and I know how he cares about people."
The president has faced sharp criticism over federal relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina victims, who are disproportionally black and poor.
On a nationally televised telethon Friday, broadcast live on NBC, West departed from the script to declare "George Bush doesn't care about black people."
Earlier this week, Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told the National Baptist Convention of America, a black religious group, that race played a role in the hurricane casualty numbers.
Mrs. Bush said it was clear that poor people were more vulnerable when the hurricane hit.
"They lived in poorer neighborhoods. Their neighborhoods were the ones that were more likely to flood, as we saw in New Orleans. Their housing was more vulnerable," she said.
"And that's what we saw, and that's what we want to address in our country."
Wife Says Criticism of Bush 'Disgusting' Thu Sep 8,10:55 PM ET YahooNews.com
Laura Bush described as "disgusting" comments by rapper Kanye West and Democratic chairman Howard Dean blaming her husband for the disproportionate number of black hurricane victims.
"I think all of those remarks are disgusting, to be perfectly frank, because of course President Bush cares about everyone in our country," the first lady said Thursday in an interview with American Urban Radio Networks.
"And I know that. I mean, I'm the person who lives with him," she said. "I know what he's like and I know what he thinks and I know how he cares about people."
The president has faced sharp criticism over federal relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina victims, who are disproportionally black and poor.
On a nationally televised telethon Friday, broadcast live on NBC, West departed from the script to declare "George Bush doesn't care about black people."
Earlier this week, Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told the National Baptist Convention of America, a black religious group, that race played a role in the hurricane casualty numbers.
Mrs. Bush said it was clear that poor people were more vulnerable when the hurricane hit.
"They lived in poorer neighborhoods. Their neighborhoods were the ones that were more likely to flood, as we saw in New Orleans. Their housing was more vulnerable," she said.
"And that's what we saw, and that's what we want to address in our country."
So what the fuck is she shying. Facts bitch. Action speaks louder than words and right now her words don't mean a fucking thing.
Wife Says Criticism of Bush 'Disgusting' Thu Sep 8,10:55 PM ET
YahooNews.com
Laura Bush described as "disgusting" comments by rapper Kanye West and Democratic chairman Howard Dean blaming her husband for the disproportionate number of black hurricane victims.
"I think all of those remarks are disgusting, to be perfectly frank, because of course President Bush cares about everyone in our country," the first lady said Thursday in an interview with American Urban Radio Networks.
Living in water that rife with bacteria from human waste and dead bodies? That'd qualify as digusting. Having someone make critical remarks about your husband? There's lots of words that you could use to describe how you're feeling, but until she's up to her neck in NOLA flood water, that's one word she shouldn't be using.
Pettiford said officers would patrol to keep interlopers out because the Pentagon restricted the event.................. "That is what their permit called for, so we have those fences to keep the public out."
Wife Says Criticism of Bush 'Disgusting' Thu Sep 8,10:55 PM ET YahooNews.com
Laura Bush described as "disgusting" comments by rapper Kanye West and Democratic chairman Howard Dean blaming her husband for the disproportionate number of black hurricane victims.
"I think all of those remarks are disgusting, to be perfectly frank, because of course President Bush cares about everyone in our country," the first lady said Thursday in an interview with American Urban Radio Networks.
"And I know that. I mean, I'm the person who lives with him," she said. "I know what he's like and I know what he thinks and I know how he cares about people."
The president has faced sharp criticism over federal relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina victims, who are disproportionally black and poor.
On a nationally televised telethon Friday, broadcast live on NBC, West departed from the script to declare "George Bush doesn't care about black people."
Earlier this week, Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told the National Baptist Convention of America, a black religious group, that race played a role in the hurricane casualty numbers.
Mrs. Bush said it was clear that poor people were more vulnerable when the hurricane hit.
"They lived in poorer neighborhoods. Their neighborhoods were the ones that were more likely to flood, as we saw in New Orleans. Their housing was more vulnerable," she said.
"And that's what we saw, and that's what we want to address in our country."
These people think they're the fucking Royal family for crissakes! They act, and speak as if they are where they are because of some divine right, and get upset when anyone dares[/b] to question them. Time to get the guillotine out of mothballs...
So I guess they'll be marching to a recorded loop of Deutschland Uber Alles???
Don't they see they're just asking for shit to happen.
Ahhhh... to be in DC with basket of rotten fruit and bail money....
you're ni jersey right? lets roadtrip. i'll bring the produce.
for real, ie ben thinking about this all week. especially after seeing the cheyney go fuck yourself clip. next time those clowns come to philly i'm going to be there with a bullhorn. they usually show up when elections are coming up.......and santorum is coming up
for real, what do you think would happen if you winged an egg at gw from a crowd? would you get instantly shot up by ss?
These people think they're the fucking Royal family for crissakes! They act, and speak as if they are where they are because of some divine right, and get upset when anyone dares[/b] to question them. Time to get the guillotine out of mothballs...
These people think they're the fucking Royal family for crissakes! They act, and speak as if they are where they are because of some divine right, and get upset when anyone dares[/b] to question them. Time to get the guillotine out of mothballs...
These people think they're the fucking Royal family for crissakes! They act, and speak as if they are where they are because of some divine right, and get upset when anyone dares[/b] to question them. Time to get the guillotine out of mothballs...
These people think they're the fucking Royal family for crissakes! They act, and speak as if they are where they are because of some divine right, and get upset when anyone dares[/b] to question them. Time to get the guillotine out of mothballs...
The really scary thing is your 100% right. The Dad was the head of the CIA then pres, the son was a Gov then pres for 2 terms with just one pres between them. They really do think they rule this land and in a fucked up way they do. Between their business ties and the government ties it's no wonder they've been so untouchable and arrogant.
One thing that just occured to me is that no one liked George Sr, he totally got busted with the "read my lips" lie and people reacted and voted him right out. So why a mear 8 years later would people totally fall for his sons bullshit. You didn't like the older one but your going to vote for the dumber younger one? Hmmmmmmmmm........people forgot!
If this is meant to be sarcastic, you need to quit while you're still ahead.
NOT AT ALL. I would like to hear people throw some names out there.
Al Gore.
not after witnessing his cowardly bullshit in fron tof the congressional black caucus. he deserves to get punched in the face and never show his face again. exiled to the fucking hills
So I guess they'll be marching to a recorded loop of Deutschland Uber Alles???
Don't they see they're just asking for shit to happen.
Ahhhh... to be in DC with basket of rotten fruit and bail money....
you're ni jersey right? lets roadtrip. i'll bring the produce.
for real, ie ben thinking about this all week. especially after seeing the cheyney go fuck yourself clip. next time those clowns come to philly i'm going to be there with a bullhorn. they usually show up when elections are coming up.......and santorum is coming up
for real, what do you think would happen if you winged an egg at gw from a crowd? would you get instantly shot up by ss?
I'm guessing you'd be held incommunicado for months in some dank Federal dungeon, then charged in a show trial with some arcane offense that carries a life term. God Bless Amuuuuuurrrrrica!
If this is meant to be sarcastic, you need to quit while you're still ahead.
NOT AT ALL. I would like to hear people throw some names out there.
Al Gore.
not after witnessing his cowardly bullshit in fron tof the congressional black caucus. he deserves to get punched in the face and never show his face again. exiled to the fucking hills
Yea, that killed it for me too.
Big_Stacks"I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
I don't really know how to respond to that. I can't think of anything similar between the two offhand that couldn't be said about any vice president. Did you see any of his speeches after Bush won in 2000? Dude went on a rampage. Once he no longer had to hold his tongue out of fear of political reprisal, he started pointing out things about Bush and his administration that many people are only now starting to acknowledge.
Nah, I've never really seen him get heated. He just always seemed to be a little bland in the personality department. Not that personality determines performance, but but seems people expect a charismatic leader. He just always seemed blah to me, although some of his recent actions have been impressive.
So Bush is charismatic? He's a misinformed, stammering idiot. It's more of he's stupid just like his constituents, so they identify with him.
I don't really know how to respond to that. I can't think of anything similar between the two offhand that couldn't be said about any vice president. Did you see any of his speeches after Bush won in 2000? Dude went on a rampage. Once he no longer had to hold his tongue out of fear of political reprisal, he started pointing out things about Bush and his administration that many people are only now starting to acknowledge.
Nah, I've never really seen him get heated. He just always seemed to be a little bland in the personality department. Not that personality determines performance, but but seems people expect a charismatic leader. He just always seemed blah to me, although some of his recent actions have been impressive.
So Bush is charismatic? He's a misinformed, stammering idiot. It's more of he's stupid just like his constituents, so they identify with him.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
It's that "aww shucks" cowboy shit. Yokels* eat it up...
*Yokels meaning anyone of that mindset, not specifically Southerners...
I think this guy would do a very nice job. I would dig a president who could put a complete sentence together. Plus, he's running in 2008.
Sen. Joe Biden
Big_Stacks"I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
I don't really know how to respond to that. I can't think of anything similar between the two offhand that couldn't be said about any vice president. Did you see any of his speeches after Bush won in 2000? Dude went on a rampage. Once he no longer had to hold his tongue out of fear of political reprisal, he started pointing out things about Bush and his administration that many people are only now starting to acknowledge.
Nah, I've never really seen him get heated. He just always seemed to be a little bland in the personality department. Not that personality determines performance, but but seems people expect a charismatic leader. He just always seemed blah to me, although some of his recent actions have been impressive.
So Bush is charismatic? He's a misinformed, stammering idiot. It's more of he's stupid just like his constituents, so they identify with him.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
It's that "aww shucks" cowboy shit. Yokels* eat it up...
*Yokels meaning anyone of that mindset, not specifically Southerners...
....F*tb*ck
I would think that high cognitive ability would be a prerequisite for such a complex office as the presidency. My bad!!!
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Seriously, shut the fuck up.
too early in his career, and as much as I would love to think that a Black contender could BE a contender, I am not convinced, especially after what happened last week. People STILL don't get it.
I like this guy, VA Guv Mark Warner, a moderate Dem, I think he's got a shot
http://walken2008.com/
Christopher Walken 2008
"Our great country is in a terrible downward spiral. We're outsourcing jobs, bankrupting social security, and losing lives at war. We need to focus on what's important-- paying attention to our children, our citizens, our future. We need to think about improving our failing educational system, making better use of our resources, and helping to promote a stable, safe, and tolerant global society. It's time to be smart about our politics. It's time to get America back on track."
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns
washingtonpost.com
Tight Constraints on Pentagon's Freedom Walk
Event Remembering 9/11, Troops to Be Kept 'Sterile,' Limited to Preregistered
By Petula Dvorak
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 9, 2005; A01
Organizers of the Pentagon's 9/11 memorial Freedom Walk on Sunday are taking extraordinary measures to control participation in the march and concert, with the route fenced off and lined with police and the event closed to anyone who does not register online by 4:30 p.m. today.
The march, sponsored by the Department of Defense, will wend its way from the Pentagon to the Mall along a route that has not been specified but will be lined with four-foot-high snow fencing to keep it closed and "sterile," said Allison Barber, deputy assistant secretary of defense.
The U.S. Park Police will have its entire Washington force of several hundred on duty and along the route, on foot, horseback and motorcycles and monitoring from above by helicopter. Officers are prepared to arrest anyone who joins the march or concert without a credential and refuses to leave, said Park Police Chief Dwight E. Pettiford.
The event, the America Supports You Freedom Walk, is billed as a memorial to victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks and a show of support for those serving in the military, topped off with a concert by country singer Clint Black, known for his pro-troops anthem, "Iraq and Roll." Organizers said they expect 3,000 to 10,000 participants.
Barber said that organizers would rather not have such stringent measures on their event but that police had requested them.
Pettiford said officers would patrol to keep interlopers out because the Pentagon restricted the event in its permit application. "That is what their permit called for, so we have those fences to keep the public out."
Once the National Park Service approves the permit, it is normal for police to do what they can to adhere to the organizers' requests. "It's a permitted event. That means [organizers] are allowed to say who is in and who's out," said Sgt. Scott Fear, a Park Police spokesman. He declined to say how many officers were in the Park Police, which had a Washington detail of about 400 two years ago.
What's unusual for an event on the Mall is the combination of fences, required preregistration and the threat of arrest.
Park Police officials said security and safety were concerns, especially because Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld will participate in some of the day's events. They said they have approved a permit for a small group of protesters that plans to stand along Independence Avenue.
Barber at first said this week that event organizers would rather not be so strict but that they were complying with police orders. But yesterday she said Park Police offered two options: Screen participants at the Mall, as police did for the Fourth of July fireworks and concert, where bags would be searched and restricted items such as alcohol, weapons, animals or glass bottles would be seized; or screen them at the Pentagon and, by restricting access throughout the march, "make sure the same people who were screened at the Pentagon are the same people going to the concert," she said.
Barber added: "We didn't want a bottleneck at the concert. We didn't want people to miss the concert while waiting to be screened. So we decided to do the screening at the Pentagon. That means the entire route has to be kept closed."
Some military supporters have welcomed the event as a way to counter the antiwar movement and back the troops abroad. Antiwar groups say they are convinced that the event was orchestrated to boost the war effort and link the war to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks -- and to undercut an antiwar protest planned for Sept. 24.
One restricted group will be the media, whose members will not be allowed to walk along the march route. Reporters and cameras are restricted to three enclosed areas along the route but are not permitted to walk alongside participants walking from the Pentagon, across the Memorial Bridge to the Mall.
The Washington Post and other corporate entities initially signed on as co-sponsors. But critics from within the newspaper and from the antiwar movement said partnering with the Pentagon raised questions about objectivity, and three weeks ago The Post pulled its co-sponsorship.
Other media co-sponsors -- WTOP radio, WJLA-TV and NewsChannel 8 -- support the effort with advertising.
Opponents of the Freedom Walk took issue with the way the Pentagon is staging the event. When the walk first was publicized, participants were required to submit their names, ages, e-mail addresses and home addresses. After some groups accused the Pentagon of using the registration as a recruiting tool for the military, the requirements were changed.
Barber said the government now asks for a full name, age group, T-shirt size and e-mail address (each registered walker will get a T-shirt). Walkers have until 4:30 p.m. today to register, which must be done online ( http://www.asyfreedomwalk.com/ ).
Officials at the Pentagon, where 184 people died in the attack, decided to open the attack site and memorial chapel to the public tomorrow for the first time.
Visitors will be welcome from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. and can see the stone that marks the crash site of American Airlines Flight 77 and the memorial chapel built there.
There is no need to register to visit the memorial chapel tomorrow.
is this for real?
So I guess they'll be marching to a recorded loop of Deutschland Uber Alles???
"yo we need aid!"
My mom just heard him speak, and he has her early support.
Maybe I missed this, I just skimmed the thread, but the reason Al Gore should be president is because he WON![/b] !
Dan
Don't they see they're just asking for shit to happen.
Ahhhh... to be in DC with basket of rotten fruit and bail money....
Its going to take a physical overthrowing of the whole upper eschelon of this country and a redistribution of wealth to see any kind of real difference happen. One president is not going to make a difference (even though it's a step in the right difference)...
Top 2% owns most of the wealth and power.
Wife Says Criticism of Bush 'Disgusting' Thu Sep 8,10:55 PM ET
YahooNews.com
Laura Bush described as "disgusting" comments by rapper Kanye West and Democratic chairman Howard Dean blaming her husband for the disproportionate number of black hurricane victims.
"I think all of those remarks are disgusting, to be perfectly frank, because of course President Bush cares about everyone in our country," the first lady said Thursday in an interview with American Urban Radio Networks.
"And I know that. I mean, I'm the person who lives with him," she said. "I know what he's like and I know what he thinks and I know how he cares about people."
The president has faced sharp criticism over federal relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina victims, who are disproportionally black and poor.
On a nationally televised telethon Friday, broadcast live on NBC, West departed from the script to declare "George Bush doesn't care about black people."
Earlier this week, Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told the National Baptist Convention of America, a black religious group, that race played a role in the hurricane casualty numbers.
Mrs. Bush said it was clear that poor people were more vulnerable when the hurricane hit.
"They lived in poorer neighborhoods. Their neighborhoods were the ones that were more likely to flood, as we saw in New Orleans. Their housing was more vulnerable," she said.
"And that's what we saw, and that's what we want to address in our country."
So what the fuck is she shying. Facts bitch. Action speaks louder than words and right now her words don't mean a fucking thing.
Living in water that rife with bacteria from human waste and dead bodies? That'd qualify as digusting. Having someone make critical remarks about your husband? There's lots of words that you could use to describe how you're feeling, but until she's up to her neck in NOLA flood water, that's one word she shouldn't be using.
Freedom WalkPettiford said officers would patrol to keep interlopers out because the Pentagon restricted the event.................. "That is what their permit called for, so we have those fences to keep the public out."
These people think they're the fucking Royal family for crissakes! They act, and speak as if they are where they are because of some divine right, and get upset when anyone dares[/b] to question them. Time to get the guillotine out of mothballs...
you're ni jersey right?
lets roadtrip. i'll bring the produce.
for real, ie ben thinking about this all week. especially after seeing the cheyney go fuck yourself clip. next time those clowns come to philly i'm going to be there with a bullhorn. they usually show up when elections are coming up.......and santorum is coming up
for real, what do you think would happen if you winged an egg at gw from a crowd? would you get instantly shot up by ss?
The really scary thing is your 100% right. The Dad was the head of the CIA then pres, the son was a Gov then pres for 2 terms with just one pres between them. They really do think they rule this land and in a fucked up way they do. Between their business ties and the government ties it's no wonder they've been so untouchable and arrogant.
One thing that just occured to me is that no one liked George Sr, he totally got busted with the "read my lips" lie and people reacted and voted him right out. So why a mear 8 years later would people totally fall for his sons bullshit. You didn't like the older one but your going to vote for the dumber younger one? Hmmmmmmmmm........people forgot!
not after witnessing his cowardly bullshit in fron tof the congressional black caucus. he deserves to get punched in the face and never show his face again. exiled to the fucking hills
and bush administration deserves the guillotine
I'm guessing you'd be held incommunicado for months in some dank Federal dungeon, then charged in a show trial with some arcane offense that carries a life term.
God Bless Amuuuuuurrrrrica!
Yea, that killed it for me too.
So Bush is charismatic? He's a misinformed, stammering idiot. It's more of he's stupid just like his constituents, so they identify with him.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
Oh shit.....get out the 10 foot pole!
It's that "aww shucks" cowboy shit. Yokels* eat it up...
*Yokels meaning anyone of that mindset, not specifically Southerners...
....F*tb*ck
I think this guy would do a very nice job. I would dig a president who could put a complete sentence together. Plus, he's running in 2008.
Sen. Joe Biden
I would think that high cognitive ability would be a prerequisite for such a complex office as the presidency. My bad!!!
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
Is it official that he's running in 08? Biden is the dude (for a politician, that is.)