How to separate affluent middle-aged audiophiles from the contents of their wallets.

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edited March 2015 in Strut Central
[strong]WHY AUDIOPHILES ARE PAYING $1,000 FOR THIS MAN’S VINYL[/strong]
http://www.wired.com/2015/03/hot-stampers/


[strong]HOW MUCH WOULD[/strong] you pay for an original copy of The Beatles’ Abbey Road? If you shop at Better Records, the answer is plenty: $650. Other staples from the heyday of vinyl command equally astronomical prices. Fleetwood Mac’s eponymous LP: $500. The Police’s Synchronicity: $350. Even kitsch like The B-52s is a sticker shocker at $220.

And that’s the cheap stuff. Prices for wish list titles like The Who’s Tommy, Pink Floyd’s The Wall, and The Beatles’ White Album would make a military contractor blush: $1,000.

Price gouging? Not according to Better Records owner Tom Port. He thinks a thousand bucks is a bargain to hear a classic rock opus sound better than you’ve ever heard it sound before—stoned or sober.

“I’d like to charge $1,500, because that’s what I think these records are worth,” he says. “But I don’t, because the customers balk.”

This is what passes for fiscal restraint in the world of high-end audio: drawing the line at three figures for mass-produced records that sold in the millions, the same dorm room relics found in milk crates at tag sales. But Port insists that his meticulously curated discs are special. Unlike many record dealers, he doesn’t peddle the usual dreck pocked with scratches and pot resin. He traffics strictly in “hot stampers,” the very best of the best.

Hundreds of factors determine what a vintage record will sound like, from the chain of ownership and whether it’s been properly stored to the purity of the vinyl stock and the quality of the equipment that produced it. One factor many serious record collectors fixate on is the quality of the stampers, the grooved metal plates used to press a lump of hot vinyl into a record album. Like any metal die, these molds have a finite lifespan. The accumulation of scratches, flaws, and other damage resulting from the tremendous mechanical stress a stamper is subjected to—100 tons of pressure during a production run—leads to a gradual loss of audio fidelity in the finished records. To ensure the best sound quality, some boutique companies that press heavy vinyl today limit their stampers to 1,000 pressings. In contrast, during the peak of the vinyl boom, major labels churned out as many as 10,000 copies on a single stamper. It’s preferable to have a record pressed early in a production run, before the metal exhibits signs of wear, rather than toward the end, right before a fresh stamper is slapped on.

Tom Port thinks a thousand bucks is a bargain to hear a classic rock opus sound better than you've ever heard it sound before—stoned or sober.
Nab an early pressing of an iconic title produced under ideal conditions, take really (really) good care of it for 40 years, and maybe it’ll be judged a hot stamper worth four figures.

Scott Hull, a recording engineer who owns Masterdisk, one of the world’s premier mastering facilities, compares producing a vinyl record to making wine. “Each pressing of the grape, and each pressing of the disc, is unique,” Hull says. “Hundreds of subtle things contribute to each pressing being different. Everything matters, from plating the lacquers to various molding issues to the quality of the vinyl pellets.”

Selling these artifacts at these prices requires more than a list of customers with too much disposable income. It takes hard work, chutzpa and catalog copy that ignites neural brush fires in the amygdala.

Consider these tasting notes for the Rolling Stones’ Emotional Rescue ($230): “A killer pressing … serious punch down low, superb clarity, all the extension up top and a HUGE open sound field … you’ll have a hard time finding any Stones record that sounds this good period!” Confirmation bias? Probably. Port had me at “killer pressing.”

Although Better Records offers jazz, blues, classical, and the occasional genre novelty (faux-Polynesian exotica is a recurring guilty pleasure), invariably it’s nostalgic classic rock albums like that Stones semi-classic from 1980 that become hot stampers.

But finding such pristine and aurally transcendent records isn’t easy.

[strong]Hot or Not?[/strong]
The painstaking process begins by scouring the used market—from Salvation Army bins to eBay—for a dozen or more clean copies of an album. Next comes the obligatory spa regimen: a three-step enzyme wash followed by a deep groove vacuuming with two record cleaning machines, one of them an $8,000 Odyssey RCM MKV, an instrument the size of an airline beverage cart handcrafted by persnickety Germans.

Grunt work completed, the hot stamper king and his minions meet in the Better Records listening room for a round of tests dubbed a “Shootout.”

By the standards of your stereotypical tube-loving, power-junkie audiophile, the amp Port uses as the hub of his Shootout machine is shockingly ordinary: a 1970s Japanese integrated transistor amp rated at a feeble 30 watts per channel, a typical thrift-store find. “I use a low-power, solid state amp because it doesn’t color the music,” he explains. “Tubes make everything sound warm and add distortion. That can sound nice, but I need accuracy.”

The other components are much more upscale. The Legacy Focus speakers have been modded with Townshend Super Tweeters, for example, and the turntable sports a Tri-Planar Precision Tonearm and a Dynavector 17D3 cartridge. Everything has been carefully selected for sonic neutrality. This isn’t about conjuring mega-bass or shimmering highs. The goal is flat frequency response, getting as close as possible to the sound on the original master tape. Nothing added or subtracted. The total price for Port’s shootout rig comes to $35,000.


When the shootout finally gets underway, lights are dimmed, eyelids fall and ears peak. With each cut sampled, the usual things are carefully pondered: presence, frequency extension, transparency, soundstage, texture, tonal correctness, and an elusive quirk called “tubey magic” (seriously). Every element is scrutinized in granular detail. If opinions diverge or memories fail, reference copies are pulled from the archive to check benchmarks. It’s tedious work. Deciding whether Side B of Emotional Rescue is a “Mint Minus Minus” (7 on a scale of 1-10), or a “Mint Minus to Mint Minus Minus” (8-9), requires dedication, stamina and intense focus. When the grades are tabulated, a sonic pecking order emerges:

Hot stampers (great sound/expensive)
Super hot stampers (really great sound/really expensive)
White hot stampers (insanely great sound/insanely expensive)
[strong]EDIT:[/strong] Check out these "white hot stampers"
http://better-records.com/search_adv.aspx?sp=White+Hot+Stamper&option=s_name&min_price=1&max;_price=&manuf;=&cate;=&so=3

It’s tempting to dismiss hot stampers as pseudoscience, like cryogenically treated speaker cables, power amp fuses zapped with Tesla coils, and every other confidence scheme devised to separate affluent middle-aged audiophiles from the contents of their wallets. Talk to enough studio engineers and record plant technicians, though, and it becomes apparent that the aural disparity between records that Tom Port prattles on about really does exist.

Industry experts agree that copies of the same album can, and often do, sound different; sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. Not just from copy to copy, and from side A to side B, but from track to track, and, yes, even within the same track. In fact, vinyl records made on the same stamper, during the same production run also can vary in sound quality. Other copies, bearing different record labels, pressed in different countries, using different equipment and personnel, will impart their own sonic flavor, which only muddles the issue further.


Every hot stamper candidate gets a thorough washing before evaluation. Brian Guido/WIRED
“There’s actually little reason why any two discs should sound the same,” says Masterdisk’s Scott Hull. “A grading system based on the different significant factors makes sense: surface noise, relative distortion during playback, and things like skips and major pops.” Before this becomes a hot stamper endorsement, Hull lowers the boom: “Saying one disc is wrong and another is right is very controversial. Only the producer, the mastering, and cutting engineers really know what that record was supposed to sound like.”
Most members of hobbyist web forums who discuss vinyl records are vehemently anti-hot stamper. It's the exorbitant markup, of course, that provokes all the outrage.

The textbook example of good mastering gone bad is the 1969 Atlantic Records release of Led Zeppelin II. The first pressing, mastered by a young Bob Ludwig, beats every other pressing and reissue by a wide margin. This record is easily identified by scanning the matrix, a product code located in the run-out area next to the label. There, etched in the dead wax are the letters “RL/SS,” shorthand for Robert Ludwig/Sterling Sound. Known among dealers as the “hot mix,” it has such energy and dynamic range that when it was released it caused the needles on cheap record players to literally jump out of the grooves. This happened when Ahmet Ertegun, the president of Atlantic Records, brought a copy home to his daughter. Judging the record defective, he immediately ordered a new pressing with the signal dialed down and compressed. Ludwig would later lament that this version “sounded puny and aghh!”

Still, like everything else having to do with manufacturing vinyl records, there are no rules or absolutes. A desirable matrix isn’t foolproof. It’s only a good omen. A random hot mix of Led Zeppelin II may sound fantastic, but some of the 200,000 “RL/SS” copies that were pressed sound better than others. This is what keeps Better Records in business and earns Tom Port a comfortable six-figure income. A Led Zeppelin II white hot stamper is $1,000.

If there is one question that needs to be asked at this point, it is this: Who actually buys these things?


[strong]The Collectors[/strong]
Although there are currently 117 testimonials posted on the Better Records website, the success of this bold enterprise hinges on 20 to 30 “preferred customers” who spend as much as $100,000 a year on hot stampers. These clients are wealthy audiophiles with a penchant for classic rock who like nothing better than to sit in an overstuffed wing chair sipping Pétrus and reading Tom Port’s vivid descriptions of the latest shootout winners.

Bill Pascoe, a full-time political consultant and part-time audiophile, is one such customer. Like all hot stamper addicts, he was initially skeptical. The gateway LP for him was Steely Dan’s Aja. Port’s notes boasted that it crushed the lavishly praised Cisco 180-gram Aja reissue. Pascoe was dubious. But as a Washington power broker, he could certainly afford $130 to find out.

If you're going to spend tens of thousands of dollars on hardware, why wouldn't you pay a few hundred for the software?
HOT STAMPER COLLECTOR ROGER LAWRY

“After the first track, I said, ‘My God, there’s something to this!'” That was eight years ago. Today, Pascoe owns more than 100 hot stampers. “I’m not a recording engineer,” he says. “All I know is that Tom’s records sound better.”

Roger Lawry, a biomedical engineer in California, was hooked by a hot stamper of Blood Sweat & Tears‘ self-titled LP, the title Port deems “the best sounding pop or rock album ever recorded.” Lawry has accumulated about 150 hot stampers since then. Adjusted for inflation, that’s the equivalent of buying a new Mercedes E-Class. The only difference is that one has an excellent resale value.

Lawry admits this pricy vinyl won’t pad his investment portfolio, but he has no regrets. “If you’re going to spend tens of thousands of dollars on hardware, why wouldn’t you pay a few hundred for the software?” he asks. A recent salary cut, however, has forced Lawry to curb his vinyl excess. Still, if the right hot stamper came along, he says he wouldn’t hesitate pulling the trigger: “I’d be willing to pay $500 for the best copy of Aja.”

[strong]The Chorus[/strong]
Not only are these original vinyl copies shiny and minty fresh, Port will tell you they also sound better than any of those $30 reissues “sourced from the original master tapes” currently in fashion. Port has particular disdain for these premium, heavy vinyl records, with their bonus tracks and glossy liner notes.

“Those records sound horrible,” he growls. “A flea market copy of Sweet Baby James will sound better than any new 180-gram version.” Surely, there must be some notable reissues of other pop albums? The 60-year-old California native pauses. “If there are, I haven’t heard them.”

This outright dismissal of an entire industry has made Port a pariah in most audiophile circles. It’s an emotional subject. Jonathan Weiss, the owner of Oswalds Mill Audio, a hi-fi sanctuary in Brooklyn known for its outstanding horn speakers, barely contains his contempt. “This guy is the poster child for everything that’s wrong with the business,” he says. “He caters to the worst fears and anxieties of audiophile victims. It’s really absurd.” Weiss finishes by calling Port a couple of names we can’t print.

To truly understand the fears and anxieties of vinyl aficionados, follow the impassioned threads that unravel on the hobbyist web forums. Although Port has supporters, they’re a minority. Most members of sites like audiokarma and audioasylum who discuss vinyl records are vehemently anti-hot stamper. It’s the exorbitant markup, of course, that provokes the outrage.


Port finds the criticism amusing. On his website, he mocks these people where it hurts: By criticizing their obsessive-compulsive love for bachelor pad hi-fi gear from the Boogie Nights era. “Pioneer turntables? In this day and age? What time warp did these guys fall through anyway? It’s as if the last thirty years of audio never happened.” (Never mind the apparent hypocrisy of his using a 40-year-old amp to rate his records.)

He also relishes ripping their precious 180-gram LPs to shreds and stomping on them. “Heavy vinyl is just a gimmick, like gold plated CDs,” he says.

To Port’s dismay, record labels have doubled down on the surging vinyl market, promising even higher fidelity by pushing a new format: the 45-RPM, double LP. Remastered at half-speed, these limited edition records, if properly produced and manufactured, have the capability to outperform single 33-RPM discs because the stylus spends more time in the grooves retrieving data. Critics gush about greater dynamic range and improved transient response.

Predictably, Tom Port isn’t a fan. Here’s his review of Metallica’s Ride The Lightning, a Warner Brothers 45-RPM album remastered at MoFi from the original analog tape: “Compressed, sucked-out mids, no deep bass and muddy mid-bass, the mastering of this album is an absolute disaster on every level.” He chuckles when asked how many business relationships have soured over the years due to unpopular opinions like this. “I burn all my bridges,” he says. “I want nothing to do with any of these people.”

[strong]The Duel[/strong]
Stereophile columnist Michael Fremer falls into this category. In October, the audio critic conducted a poll on his blog, Analog Planet, to address the hot stamper vs. heavy vinyl debate. The material chosen for this audio contest was RCA’s 1960 “Living Stereo” recording of Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov’s Scheherazade, a symphonic poem considered by audiophiles to be one of the greatest performances ever captured on vinyl.

In one corner was the prohibitive favorite: Analogue Productions’ 200-gram, 33-RPM reissue, a record that prominent critics, including Fremer (he called it “transformative”), argued was better than the original. The challenger was a vintage RCA pressing of Scheherazade that Port had personally selected from his hot stamper stash. The records were transferred to hi-res 24bit/96KHz files—well above standard CD quality—and posted on Fremer’s blog for readers to sample. When the votes were tallied, the new Analogue Productions version was declared the winner by a 6 percent margin.

Port dismisses the results as meaningless, blaming his hot stamper’s poor showing on flawed methodology. “Fremer labeled one of the files ‘AP,'” he says incredulously. “Voters knew that was Analogue Productions. So, the experiment was biased from the start! When it was corrected, we caught up fast.”

He could have left it at that, but the thought of smoldering bridges excites Port too much. Convinced that the industry high priests are aligned against him, he lashes out: “Michael Fremer once said he had six copies of Aja, and they all sounded the same. That’s impossible on a good system! Is he deaf?”

Fremer has since conducted several live listening sessions using the same two Scheherazade pressings. In each case, the results were, in Fremer’s words, “pretty much 50-50.” Which would seem to indicate, at least in this instance, that heavy vinyl and hot stampers are more about personal preference than one record actually sounding better than the other.

“If you can afford it, I think Tom provides a good product,” Fremer says diplomatically. “Although, I don’t always agree with him on everything.”

  Comments


  • parallaxparallax no-style-having mf'er 1,266 Posts
    tl;dr

    But yeah, some dudes have enough money to just not give a fuck. Nutty Northern Soul collectros in particular pay insane money on some Wigan Casino nostalgia tip.

    Crusty dudes paying $600 or whatever for a minty Beatles record doesn't surprise me in the least. I think one can go too far down the rabbit hole in pusuit of audio fidelity (or bass purity *wink*) to the point of full-on obsession, justifying to themselves the cost for the aural experience.

    TBH, it's not that far removed from dudes with 20K+ record collections. Just another form of OCD, imo.


  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    He has been doing this for years. I met one of his customers that was telling me how great the CSN&Y he got from him sounded. Don't let other people tell you what sounds good. Go out and buy 12 copies of CSN&Y, listen to them back to back, and keep the best one. Now you have a White Hot Stamper for a lot less money.

    I know a guy who is a Steve Hoffman forum devotee. I think SH is a great forum. But this guy spends hours looking at the pressing plant and engineer marks in the dead wax. Going on and on about which is the best. All based on what someone said on a forum and not from doing his own listening.

  • Big_StacksBig_Stacks "I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
    Hey LaserWolf,

    What, you want people to think for themselves? Perish the thought, my friend (just kidding). I hear you, if people said shit tasted good, there would be other folks lining up to eat it. I'm shocked at how much people are quick to follow the herd, instead of trying to develop more informed opinions about matters.

    Peace,

    Big Stacks from Kakalak

  • Fred_GarvinFred_Garvin The land of wind and ghosts 337 Posts
    Big_Stacks said:
    if people said shit tasted good, there would be other folks lining up to eat it.
    We're not far from that now:

    http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2013/10/01/beaver-butts-emit-goo-used-for-vanilla-flavoring/

  • strataspherestratasphere Blastin' the Nasty 1,035 Posts
    Audiofools is more of an appropriate term for those willing to spend that type of money on those records because the SELLER says they sound better.

  • that article is inherently depressing. the art of listening has nothing to fucking do with "hot stampers"...

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    What I'm talking about Stacks.
    Restaurant critics have a lot of influence, but people are capable of deciding where they want to go back to.
    But Audiophiles seem far more influenced by experts.
    Thus people buy green pens to write on their cds (this was a thing) and put bricks on their amps (still a thing).

  • Big_StacksBig_Stacks "I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
    You sound old, LaserWolf (me too!!!). I much prefer to think for myself, and I could give two shits about how people feel about it. I feel how I feel and like what I like, popular or not. Of course, I'm open to hearing others' views and considering opposing opinions in light of my own. It seems to me at some point in maturation, people's viewpoints and preferences should crystallize to some degree. Old and wishy-washy is not a good look.

    Peace,

    Big Stacks from Kakalak

  • JimsterJimster Cruffiton.etsy.com 6,954 Posts
    All this fretting about the reproduction of the music... Just a pissing contest.

    Can you imagine the same fuss being applied by the musicians BITD?

    "No, I find I play better when completely sober."
    "Ahem! What model of mic is this, please?"
    "These strings sound a day old!"
    "Can you please stop clattering the cuttlery during the bass solo?"

    Some of my favourite recordings are from gigs where it sounds like someone hid the mic in their pants pocket. And left those pants in a washing machine.

    As long as the music moves you, that is all.

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    Right on Jimster.
    Some of these guys prefer hearing their system's great reproduction, over hearing great music reproduced on their systems.

  • jjfad027jjfad027 1,594 Posts
    I've got some hot stamper Michael Franks LPs for sale. Only $400 each!! ;-)

  • BowlsBowls 28 Posts
    Here Comes the Hot Stamper

  • mrmatthewmrmatthew 1,575 Posts
    Do we need to start a "what things in you current/past set-ups would drive an audiophile crazy" thread?
    Like "running a 90's stanton dj turntable thru a radio-shack mixer thru heathkit thru a yamaha natural sound reciever into wireless surround sound speakers" type deal.

  • parallaxparallax no-style-having mf'er 1,266 Posts
    Bowls said:
    Here Comes the Hot Stamper

    Win

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,244 Posts
    mrmatthew said:
    Do we need to start a "what things in you current/past set-ups would drive an audiophile crazy" thread?
    Like "running a 90's stanton dj turntable thru a radio-shack mixer thru heathkit thru a yamaha natural sound reciever into wireless surround sound speakers" type deal.

    like not being able to properly ground my turntable because brazilian outlets don't normally have a ground wire?

  • This thread is funny cause folks here used to have deep discussions about serial numbers in runout grooves to determine authenticity of first pressings when a compilation album sounds just as good.

    Who gives a fuck what these folks do?

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,903 Posts

  • dukeofdelridgedukeofdelridge urgent.monkey.mice 2,453 Posts
    the heart of my audio system is a vestax 06pro...from CHINA

  • asstroasstro 1,754 Posts
    Has anyone read the comments section of that Wired article? Dudes are taking this SERIOUS. It's funny as hell, I wish I could watch them get together in person and duke it out.
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