Record grading question

finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
edited May 2012 in Strut Central
How do grade a record that looks stone mint but plays with chrackles for no apparent reasons?
I have a record that has a lot of quiet parts in which the chrackles are a bit annoying.

Thanks in advance

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  • HorseleechHorseleech 3,830 Posts
    You pretty much did it right there.

    Say it looks NM and plays VG+.

  • strataspherestratasphere Blastin' the Nasty 1,035 Posts
    Weak VG+, More than likely the hiss/crackle is a factory defect. What label is the particular record on? Here in the states I've encountered this problem on certain RCA, Motown, especially on MoWest, Atlantic/Atco, and Chess/Cadet.

  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
    Also, if a record looks clean but plays badly, it could be the case of a record that was taken care of in regards to handling and storage, but was played with a shitty needle.

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    stratasphere said:
    Weak VG+, More than likely the hiss/crackle is a factory defect. What label is the particular record on? Here in the states I've encountered this problem on certain RCA, Motown, especially on MoWest, Atlantic/Atco, and Chess/Cadet.

    It's a private press record. It is definatly no a pressing defect and probably not as worse as you can get the impression from my previous post.
    Maybe I'm a bit to careful... It's more like the sound of a grooveless part at the end of a record.
    Because there are so much quiet parts on the record it is noticeable.
    Best thing would be to post a soundclip and you judge.

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    here it is:



    at the end is a quiet part

  • strataspherestratasphere Blastin' the Nasty 1,035 Posts
    finelikewine said:
    here it is:



    at the end is a quiet part

    Did not sound too bad starting off, but it sounds like there were some pressing bubbles that caused a skip.

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    stratasphere said:
    finelikewine said:
    here it is:



    at the end is a quiet part

    Did not sound too bad starting off, but it sounds like there were some pressing bubbles that caused a skip.

    I'm not sure whether these a bubbles that causing the skip or a bit of dirt is sticking on the vinyl, which can be removed with a record cleaner.
    Apart from skip, could this be graded as nm soundwise?

  • strataspherestratasphere Blastin' the Nasty 1,035 Posts
    finelikewine said:
    stratasphere said:
    finelikewine said:
    here it is:



    at the end is a quiet part

    Did not sound too bad starting off, but it sounds like there were some pressing bubbles that caused a skip.

    I'm not sure whether these a bubbles that causing the skip or a bit of dirt is sticking on the vinyl, which can be removed with a record cleaner.
    Apart from skip, could this be graded as nm soundwise?

    Some would probably grade it strong VG+/Ex. To be on the safe side I would personally grade it a strong VG+, but I would clean it first to see if it is indeed some dust stuck in the grooves or if it is a pressing bubble.

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    stratasphere said:
    finelikewine said:
    stratasphere said:
    finelikewine said:
    here it is:



    at the end is a quiet part

    Did not sound too bad starting off, but it sounds like there were some pressing bubbles that caused a skip.

    I'm not sure whether these a bubbles that causing the skip or a bit of dirt is sticking on the vinyl, which can be removed with a record cleaner.
    Apart from skip, could this be graded as nm soundwise?

    I think I will post soundclips of the record and describe it visualy, then it's up to the buyer to decide.


    Some would probably grade it strong VG+/Ex. To be on the safe side I would personally grade it a strong VG+, but I would clean it first to see if it is indeed some dust stuck in the grooves or if it is a pressing bubble.

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    When I started collecting most mail order records were sold through ads in the pages of Goldmine or through catalogs.
    Economics dictated that the listing for each record be as brief as possible because you need to squeeze as many onto a page as you could.
    Thus 2 character grades and abbreviations like WLP, TOC, RW...

    Today, in an on line ad, your space is almost limitless.
    So just describe the record fairly then do the looks... but plays...
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