Kanye vs. Shirley Bassey...
the3rdstream
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Sorry if this was already posted"...so one way or another he is going to have to pay me a lot of money."[/b]
the3rdstream
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http://www.tvworldwide.com/events/iwa/050911/agenda.cfm
Publishing is where it's @ - and Kanye already has recounted how he relinquished 100 % of the publishing for 'Diamonds from Sierra Leone' to enable him to use the sample. John Barry's smiling from the $$$ coming in from that song; Bassey won't be...
I wonder how much publishing kanye retains on most of his stuff with samples.
One more negative and I'm taking that record to my grave with me. NOONE is gonna hear it. NOONE!
In the thread about El Michels Affair I mentioned that they covered a soul song and claimed writing/arranging credit.
Nobody on this site cares when a new funk band doesn't clear something, but when Kanye doesn't clear a sample... watch out...
I mean really. Let him live.
El Michaels Affair is in the same boat as Sharon Jones... if you still have to work a day job you get a pass, you don't owe anybody... the same way nobody cares if Kanye cleared anything on the Infamous Syndicate or whatever that shit was, dude was sleeping in a car or whatever...
This Shirley Bassey thing is pathetic though. She really oughta know by now how the industry works...
As far as I can tell the only one giving K a hard time is Shirley, ain't nobody here talkin down on him...
Dude fuck that. They claimed writing and arranging credit! They cleared the Isaac Hayes cover but not the more obscure one? What that says to me: "hey guys, this one we can get away with".
Don't get me wrong, it sucks if they took credit... but its not like anybody's making money off a El Michaels record
what will el michaels sell, lets shoot really high at 10,000 units. statutory rate on that many units is about 8 cents. harry fox will take more than half for administration so you are talking about whoever owns the original publishing getting $400 at best. probably more than the el michaels record will make anyway. on top of that, if hfa doesnt know who owns the publishing (meaning it isnt in their database), they arent going to research it for you, they just deny you the rights. claiming they wrote and arranged it is a bit of a whack move, but it beats only covering hits cuz thats what you can get a license for.
Everybody's discussing this as oppposed to Kanye not clearing Sharon Jones when that is a Rhymefest record that probably dude will not get paid on (not Kanye, Rhymefest), Kanye got paid off that before the record was even mastered.
shes going to feel dumb when her a/r folls tell her she aint getting shit
dude, it is all about the process. i can clear the isaac hayes song and have id paid for through songfile (hfa) in 2 minutes. you can't clear the other track (without a mountain of effort) even if you wanted to.