WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING IN NOLA?!?!?!?!

Cosmo

"They killed a man here last night," Steve Banka, 28, told Reuters. "A young lady was being raped and stabbed. And the sounds of her screaming got to this man and so he ran out into the street to get help from troops, to try to flag down a passing truck of them, and he jumped up on the truck's windshield and they shot him dead."

Wade Batiste, 48, recounted another tale of horror.

"Last night at 8 p.m. they shot a kid of just 16. He was just crossing the street. They ran him over, the New Orleans police did, and then they got out of the car and shot him in the head," Batiste said.

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day

I knew this was going to happen.

Brian

i really dont understand this shit at all

volumen

Can we get some direct sources on these bits of info????? Lots of stories are going to be flying around.

Phill_Most

i really dont understand this shit at all

I guess it's just the conspiracy theorist in me, but I really think there's a lot more going on with this whole situation than what we're being told. I am so fucked up over all of this, I don't think I'm gonna be able to even sleep tonight.

Brian

i really dont understand this shit at all

I guess it's just the conspiracy theorist in me, but I really think there's a lot more going on with this whole situation than what we're being told. I am so fucked up over all of this, I don't think I'm gonna be able to even sleep tonight.

i was thinking the same thing but it really seems to be a much larger situation to even comprehend at this point.

mordecai

i really dont understand this shit at all

I guess it's just the conspiracy theorist in me, but I really think there's a lot more going on with this whole situation than what we're being told. I am so fucked up over all of this, I don't think I'm gonna be able to even sleep tonight.

always the case with the lack of info released but when the info released is this ugly...SHIT IS REALLY REAL.

Jonny_Paycheck

Reports of fiends lurking in bathrooms to rape women, and then slit their throats... national guard to reuters, "if you want to take pictures of dead bodies go to Iraq"... there is an excellent article here

Cosmo

The only difference between the chaos of New Orleans and a Third World disaster operation, he said, was that a foreign dictator would have responded better.

From BBC.

ariel_calmer

Can anybody else not envision EVER going to "visit" new orleans after all this is over?

day

I feel sick to my stomach.

DrWu

This is exactly what my man Kanye was talking about in his impromptu outburst. When the fucking governor of LA sends in battle hardened troops from Iraq and spouts off about shooting people, those guardsmen are getting the wrong orientation. This is a rescue mission, not a riot situation.

Brian

Can anybody else not envision EVER going to "visit" new orleans after all this is over?

yo, the way shit is going, we don't even know if there's going to be a nola after this

edpowers

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Jesus christ, one of my girls is still fucking stuck down there, hunkered down in her 5th floor apartment running low on food and water. Cutting all lights even candles at night, her and 3 other girls. They were hoping that having the Nat Guard there would give them a safe way out possibly on Sunday, they even have a car ready to go, but damn dude this shit has me REAL shook. Her little brother is one of my tight friends too.

4 girls in an apartment in a windowless room with a shotgun and a pistol.

mordecai

Jesus christ, one of my girls is still fucking stuck down there, hunkered down in her 5th floor apartment running low on food and water. Cutting all lights even candles at night, her and 3 other girls. They were hoping that having the Nat Guard there would give them a safe way out possibly on Sunday, they even have a car ready to go, but damn dude this shit has me REAL shook. Her little brother is one of my tight friends too.

4 girls in an apartment in a windowless room with a shotgun and a pistol.

FUCK! dude. hope to god that they make it ok.

Aser

this is really sad.......I feel so powerless in these situations. Sure I can donate money/supplies etc, but in the end, there's not much we as outsiders can do to stop this.

edpowers

9/11,Iraq,New Orleans,National Debt.....



1st steps in establishing the New World



....THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING MASS GRAVES!!!!NOT EVEN RESPECTING THOSE THAT DIED FROM A NATURAL DISASTER...



IT WAS WRITTEN



WHERE IS ARCHAIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phill_Most

Can anybody else not envision EVER going to "visit" new orleans after all this is over?

I loved Nawlins so much, man... out of all the places I've visited, that was probably my favorite (or at least in the top 3). Just something about the laid back atmosphere, the friendliness of the people down there. There was just something very special and different about that city, I can't even put a finger on it. One of the few places that I felt like I might even want to move to someday.

Phill_Most

p_gunn

"They killed a man here last night," Steve Banka, 28, told Reuters. "A young lady was being raped and stabbed. And the sounds of her screaming got to this man and so he ran out into the street to get help from troops, to try to flag down a passing truck of them, and he jumped up on the truck's windshield and they shot him dead."

Wade Batiste, 48, recounted another tale of horror.

"Last night at 8 p.m. they shot a kid of just 16. He was just crossing the street. They ran him over, the New Orleans police did, and then they got out of the car and shot him in the head," Batiste said.

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sickening, but not surprising... you have troops going to an area that appears to be totally laweless. no matter how many times ge. honore sez "this is not bagdad!" or "keep those guns pointed down", the bottom line is every soldier there is scared and jumpy as fuck.

for every story like this, think about how many you read of the police letting people take shoes if it was there size... basically, the cops have no idea how to react and are doing the best they can... (so far at least 2 police suicides,,,) but i would treat the troops/cops down there like a unchained dog: plenty of space... they are def. doing a difficult job and i think we all knew as soon as they were going to get called that we would hear of a LOT of casualties one way or another...

BigB

It's no fucking conspiracy. It's the continued neglect of the poorest in this country. It's capitalism. It's class. It's race.

Make no mistake, this isn't a New Orleans thing or a Southern thing, this is your United States of America.

My family and I lived/will live in New Orleans. My wife was born there, her family still all lives in the area. We are lucky because we could evacuate.

I'm with my Mayor, Ray Nagin:

"And they don't have a clue what's going on down here. They flew down here one time two days after the doggone event was over with TV cameras, AP reporters, all kind of goddamn -- excuse my French everybody in America, but I am pissed. "

33thirdcom

Can anybody else not envision EVER going to "visit" new orleans after all this is over?

been there and experienced the shit first hand 3 years go. Wrongfully arrested spen the night i the jail/county prison (its all the same there)... Outside of a few drunks the rest of the people were dirt poor and stuck i the system and similarly didn't know how they got there. Now I know when you're on he other side of the bars everyone is innocent, but, in reality alot of those people were not there because they did anything even remotely arrestable outside of being in their neighborhood.

I never wanted to go back and cursed that city for all it was worth - 36 hours of hell.I don't wish this kind of tragedy on anyone, but really its because the people I dealt with during that experience that are bearing the worst part of this (and I am not talkin about the criminals) just the poverty stricken ignored segment of society that never really had a chance at the "american dream".

shit was fucked up there but more importantly on the real, that is every major metropolitan area in the US. If this incident doesn't serve as a wake up call this country I think is seriously headed for a much bigger widespread social disaster..

motown67

Can anybody else not envision EVER going to "visit" new orleans after all this is over?

yo, the way shit is going, we don't even know if there's going to be a nola after this

There's not. Most of the city will have to torn down and completely re-built. The water that flowed in from the neighboring lake was filled with waste from the city's and surrounding areas sewage system. After a house gets flooded you have 2 days to dry it out and try to save it, with damage from this stuff, I think it's called "black water" or something, the only thing you can save is clothing. Everything else will be covered in mildew and will have to be destroyed. With 80% of the city supposedly flooded, that's 80% that will probably have to be knocked down and rebuilt from scratch.

HAZ

Can anybody else not envision EVER going to "visit" new orleans after all this is over?

yo, the way shit is going, we don't even know if there's going to be a nola after this

There's not. Most of the city will have to torn down and completely re-built. The water that flowed in from the neighboring lake was filled with waste from the city's and surrounding areas sewage system. After a house gets flooded you have 2 days to dry it out and try to save it, with damage from this stuff, I think it's called "black water" or something, the only thing you can save is clothing. Everything else will be covered in mildew and will have to be destroyed. With 80% of the city supposedly flooded, that's 80% that will probably have to be knocked down and rebuilt from scratch.

Its true - If there was that much water in the city that homes are submerged, forget about restorations. Everything needs to be bulldosed. Its all a write off. I don't know how much of the city is under water - I can't figure out how people are driving buses out of there - but mold & rot can't be prevented now. Think of all that history, the buildings & landmarks just washed away in a day.

day

More stories are starting to come out.



Of course, it takes other country's news sources to report them.

'They're not giving us what we need to survive'[/b]



Jamie Doward reports on the fury of New Orleans residents who say they were ignored and mistreated by the authorities



Sunday September 4, 2005

The Observer

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Only now, a week after Hurricane Katrina roared across the Deep South, leaving a trail of devastation across America's psyche, is the true story of the Battle of New Orleans emerging.



As convoys of commandeered school buses and Greyhound coaches transported tens of thousands of refugees out of the submerged city yesterday, in a belated and much-criticised relief operation, each vehicle brought with it new tales of horror.



Those trapped inside the two main shelters, the Superdome and the Convention Centre, paint a picture of a city that was subsumed beneath waves of violence, rape and death and accuse the police and National Guard of standing by, ignoring their pleas for help.



The claims are rejected by the federal and state authorities, who instead suggest the looting and lawlessness which followed the extensive flooding of the city was the result of a series of isolated incidents perpetrated by a few.



But it is clear from talking to survivors that what happened in New Orleans last week was far more extensive, bloody and terrifying than the authorities have admitted so far.[/b]



'We had to wrap dead people in white sheets and throw them outside while the police stood by and did nothing,' said Correll Williams, a 19-year-old meat cutter from the Crowder Road district in the east of the city, who waded two miles through waist-high water to make it to the Convention Centre after hearing on the radio it was being turned into a refuge.



'The police were in boats watching us. They were just laughing at us. Five of them to a boat, not trying to help nobody. Helicopters were riding by just looking at us. They weren't helping. We were pulling people on bits of wood, and the National Guard would come driving by in their empty military trucks.'[/b]



Williams only left his apartment after the authorities took the decision to flood his district in an apparent attempt to sluice out some of the water that had submerged a neighbouring district. Like hundreds of others he had heard the news of the decision to flood his district on the radio. The authorities had given people in the district until 5pm on Tuesday to get out - after that they would open the floodgates.



'We thought we could live without electricity for a few weeks because we had food. But then they told us they were opening the floodgates,' said Arineatta Walker, who fled the area with her daughter and two grandchildren.



'So about two o'clock we went on to the streets and we asked the army, "Where can we go?". And they said, "Just take off because there's no one going to come back for you." They kicked my family out of there. If I knew how to hotwire a car I would have,' Walker said.



Once inside the Convention Centre, Walker confronted a new hell. 'People were being raped, there were cries and screams, there were gunshots, but the police did nothing,' Walker said.



'The police were afraid to do anything,' said Chantelle, a black 22- year-old. 'They wouldn't come in. They took two white guys out one night but left the rest of us in here.'



Williams said: 'The floor was a swamp, you couldn't live in there. The police kept telling us buses were coming but they didn't. People started getting aggravated and then one policeman got mad, he caught an attitude with somebody and they caught an attitude back and started banging on his car, and that's how it started. He called for back-up and the next thing I know the military are down there throwing stun grenades. Everybody started running, bumping into each other, hurting each other.'



As the repeated promises of buses failed to materialise, people in the shelters started stealing cars. 'How do you expect people to act right when they're starving to death?' asked Williams. 'There were bodies all over. We were just throwing them out the front. They (the authorities) are blaming it on the people, making it look like it was the people's fault, but it's really their fault because they're not giving us what we need to survive. So now people are going and getting guns in order to fight back, in order to survive cos they don't want to help us.'



Outside the Convention Centre, where an estimated 15,000 people were seeking refuge, bodies lay ignored. A woman in a wheelchair and an elderly man on a chaise longue could be seen festering in the heat. On Wednesday, eight 11-strong teams from the Louisiana State Police entered the centre, where they were repelled by angry gangs, some of whom were armed. Yesterday scores of police officers were said to have resigned from the force, complaining their jobs had become too dangerous.



Until Friday morning only two buses had arrived at the Convention Centre to transport those inside out of the city, according to several trapped inside. The revelation suggests that the police and National Guard's inability to handle the crisis stemmed from chronic paralysis at the highest levels of the relief operation.



Outside the Superdome, which was at one stage home to some 25,000 people, a member of the National Guard was shot in the leg by his own gun as he was rushed by a crowd angry at the wait for buses to take them to Houston.



The authorities' failure to respond to the situation has prompted outpourings of national revulsion and calls for high-level resignations.



There was confusion yesterday as to why thousands of people had made for the Convention Centre. Officials said it was never intended that the centre be used as a refuge.



Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the much-criticised body charged with coordinating the relief effort, told US television networks they had not been aware of the crowds in the centre until Thursday.



'The federal government did not even know about the Convention Centre people until today,' New Orleans major Ray Nagin told CNN on Thursday evening.



The shock confession prompted calls for Brown to be fired. 'That was just a boneheaded statement,' said Mississippi Democratic Congressman Bennie Thompson. 'The President will have to change the leadership so that a response this bad will never, never happen again for the American people,' Thompson added.



On Friday evening 1,000 members of the National Guard and 60 police officers arrived outside the centre to restore order.



The chronic failure to resolve the situation in the Convention Centre - and to a lesser extent the Superdome, where the situation was apparently more calm - was described as a 'national disgrace' by the increasingly angry Nagin.



'You would think that on day five of the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States, and possibly the world, we would not still be waiting for troops and buses,' Nagin said on Thursday.

Bapt

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F?????% that!
That's unbelievable!

Gnat

I think [this country] is seriously headed for a much bigger widespread social disaster..

POLICE LOOTING

The police are here to protect and serve...and by "serve" I mean gaffle...this is hilarious...

peacefulrotation

The focus of that reporter's concern is mad

Birdman9

I think [this country] is seriously headed for a much bigger widespread social disaster..

POLICE LOOTING

The police are here to protect and serve...and by "serve" I mean gaffle...this is hilarious...

By account one of their own[/b], at least ONE THIRD of the cops down there deserted. Dude was calling them out, calling them cowards unfit to wear the badge, all on CNN today. It was wild.

day

The focus of that reporter's concern is mad

NO SHIT

I just got checked by my wife for calling dude a prick in front of the kids.



I fucking hate condescending cracker reporters like that.