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Cam'ron's Law (snitching-r)

ketanketan Warmly booming riffs 3,102 Posts
edited October 2011 in Strut Central
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/10/20/moore-shooting-investigation.html

This example provides a strong counter-argument to "Cam'ron's Law" on snitching, which specifically states that community members must never tattle to the police - even if there's a serial killer living next door.

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  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    "Stop snitching" isn't a suggestion, it's a threat, an or else.

    But if the reward outweighs the risk, then by all means snitch.
  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    The Weston Rd shootings were up the street from me. The younger of the two killed, Facey, was a student at the highschool across from my house.

    When the police frame tips as the only way to solve crimes, I have an issue. Witnesses may be part of the investigation, but taking the tone that investigators can't do anything unless people step forward...that is not my idea of thorough or dedicated police work. As well, this expectation and tsk-tsk-tsk of community members not stepping forward to speak on the neighbours, etc....how many officers step forward to report bad cops?
    There is a huge risk for cops to "snitch"...what protection is given to those who have to live next door to the families, squads, etc. of the people they turn in? This is not just an interesting talking point on hypocrisy, it has a very real and negative impact.

    There is a reason people have stepped forward now more than before; Toronto Police have been putting in serious community work and relationship-building. I hope they keep building, and for more reasons than getting this fuck arrested.

    The Families
  • ketanketan Warmly booming riffs 3,102 Posts
    Reynaldo said:
    "Stop snitching" isn't a suggestion, it's a threat, an or else.

    But if the reward outweighs the risk, then by all means snitch.

    Yeah, I agree that it's a threat; thus "Cam'ron's LAW". But Cam specifically implied that catching a serial killer isn't a strong enough reward (in response to a ridiculous question that missed the point).

    And I think this case highlights how community members actually do value catching serial killers.
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    If you know a serial killer lives next door to you, gather a posse and merk his ass. Getting the cops involved is cowards' play.
  • ketanketan Warmly booming riffs 3,102 Posts
    bassie said:
    When the police frame tips as the only way to solve crimes, I have an issue. Witnesses may be part of the investigation, but taking the tone that investigators can't do anything unless people step forward...that is not my idea of thorough or dedicated police work. As well, this expectation and tsk-tsk-tsk of community members not stepping forward to speak on the neighbours, etc....how many officers step forward to report bad cops?
    There is a huge risk for cops to "snitch"...what protection is given to those who have to live next door to the families, squads, etc. of the people they turn in? This is not just an interesting talking point on hypocrisy, it has a very real and negative impact.

    There is a reason people have stepped forward now more than before; Toronto Police have been putting in serious community work and relationship-building. I hope they keep building, and for more reasons that getting this fuck arrested.

    The Families

    I was just making light of Cam's comment. But these are great points. Thanks!
  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    ketan said:
    Reynaldo said:
    "Stop snitching" isn't a suggestion, it's a threat, an or else.

    But if the reward outweighs the risk, then by all means snitch.

    Yeah, I agree that it's a threat; thus "Cam'ron's LAW". But Cam specifically implied that catching a serial killer isn't a strong enough reward (in response to a ridiculous question that missed the point).

    And I think this case highlights how community members actually to value catching serial killers.
    Right. But it is up to the individual to decide if they want to talk to the cops or not, regardless of the situation, in light of the potential dangers associated with talking to the cops. They have no moral obligation to talk to the cops if they feel it would put them in grave danger.
  • ketanketan Warmly booming riffs 3,102 Posts
    Reynaldo said:
    ketan said:
    Reynaldo said:
    "Stop snitching" isn't a suggestion, it's a threat, an or else.

    But if the reward outweighs the risk, then by all means snitch.

    Yeah, I agree that it's a threat; thus "Cam'ron's LAW". But Cam specifically implied that catching a serial killer isn't a strong enough reward (in response to a ridiculous question that missed the point).

    And I think this case highlights how community members actually to value catching serial killers.
    Right. But it is up to the individual to decide if they want to talk to the cops or not, regardless of the situation, in light of the potential dangers associated with talking to the cops. They have no moral obligation to talk to the cops if they feel it would put them in grave danger.

    Good point. That actually helps me understand Cam's answer (as an individual) more.
  • HorseleechHorseleech 3,830 Posts
    HarveyCanal said:
    If you know a serial killer lives next door to you, gather a posse and merk his ass.

    Yep, nothing could go wrong with this...
  • El PrezEl Prez NE Ohio 1,141 Posts
    FrankieMeltzer said:
    Horseleech said:
    HarveyCanal said:
    If you know a serial killer lives next door to you, gather a posse and merk his ass.

    Yep, nothing could go wrong with this...

    Lynching is just one of those fine old Southern traditions Yankees don't appreciate.

    That shit was not funny
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    i smell a race strut...........

    White folks lynched white folks too.
  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    batmon said:
    i smell a race strut...........

    White folks lynched white folks too.

    Because they were white?

    With mutilations and picnics and packed lunches and everything?
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    bassie said:
    batmon said:
    i smell a race strut...........

    White folks lynched white folks too.

    Because they were white?

    With mutilations and picnics and packed lunches and everything?

    I dont think they pickled the little penis' afterwards.

    Lynching = ONLY Black folks? Isnt that just as illusionary and racialist?
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    I said merk.
  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    bassie said:


    When the police frame tips as the only way to solve crimes, I have an issue. Witnesses may be part of the investigation, but taking the tone that investigators can't do anything unless people step forward...that is not my idea of thorough or dedicated police work. As well, this expectation and tsk-tsk-tsk of community members not stepping forward to speak on the neighbours, etc....how many officers step forward to report bad cops?
    There is a huge risk for cops to "snitch"...what protection is given to those who have to live next door to the families, squads, etc. of the people they turn in? This is not just an interesting talking point on hypocrisy, it has a very real and negative impact.


    ^^ THIS ^^
  • HorseleechHorseleech 3,830 Posts
    HarveyCanal said:
    I said merk.

    Does that mean talk to them about their problems/bad childhood etc?
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