ethnic bangers?

buttonbutton 1,475 Posts
edited September 2011 in Strut Central
I know a lot of these Indian jawns end up sounding the same after awhile, but I think this one is a real stand out. Lots of heavy percussion, flute, sitar + cool tempo and vocal changes.
Still exciting on these here shores? or just chirp-fodder best left for the Son-of-Soulstrut?




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  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,789 Posts
    F*ck Jay-Z.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    white folks arent "ethnic"?

  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
    kala is an ethnic banger

  • buttonbutton 1,475 Posts
    Is anything exciting anymore?

  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
    I posted a mix the other day with this track on it


    I was excited

  • buttonbutton 1,475 Posts
    batmon said:
    white folks arent "ethnic"?

    If they want to be I suppose. Although they tend to get into trouble when talking about their white heritage.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    button said:
    batmon said:
    white folks arent "ethnic"?

    If they want to be I suppose. Although they tend to get into trouble when talking about their white heritage.

    ethnic means non white in og terms. Its a separatist term to establish an heirarchy.

    White and everyone else = bullshit.

    whos the real minority?

  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
    Ethnic Music is "the other" as recorded by "The Man". Ethnic does not mean non-white. See for example: Bosnia

    If your grandma's bathtub was in her kitchen or outside, she was ethnic, no matter whether it was in Sumatra, the Lower East Side, or West Virginia.

  • buttonbutton 1,475 Posts
    batmon said:
    button said:
    batmon said:
    white folks arent "ethnic"?

    If they want to be I suppose. Although they tend to get into trouble when talking about their white heritage.

    ethnic means non white in og terms.

    Not really. It is generally used when speaking of the old world (but not the Old World per se), global or local cultural lineages that often predate the melting pot and the modern forms of commercialism that came afterward. Old traditions of Sweden, Ireland, Germany, could all be considered ethnic, as could early Appalachian mountain music. Heritage that came from the inside-out as opposed to the outside-in.

  • buttonbutton 1,475 Posts
    If you want to think of it in purely racial terms, then I suppose non-White-America would be as close as you'd come to pinning it down. But even that wouldn't be entirely accurate. I suppose also that a classist element will always creep in to the term if you want it to, as you need both A) the outside culture or sub-culture being studied and B) the one doing the studying, generally a member of the establishment culture in one form or another. Obviously the establishment culture doesn't require any exposure or special asterisks as we are constantly immersed in it and it can never be turned off.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    if you are not omitting any culture whrn using ethnic then why not just say music?

    there is obviously some non ethnic catagory if u say ethnic.

    its bullshit

    whats next..... colored?

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    It's like saying ethnic food. The implication - despite what the book/academic definition might be - is not waffles, but masala dosa.

    Maybe non-English language music is what was meant?

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    SportCasual said:
    Ethnic Music is "the other" as recorded by "The Man". Ethnic does not mean non-white. See for example: Bosnia .

    so the man has no ethnicity?

  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
    D.E.L.E.T.E.

    :lol:

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    bassie said:
    It's like saying ethnic food. The implication - despite what the book/academic definition might be - is not waffles, but masala dosa.

    Maybe non-English language music is what was meant?

    belgian and asian and american waffles come from humans......wtf?

    its a bullcrap term

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    I'm agreeing with you. Yeesh.

  • batmon said:
    if you are not omitting any culture whrn using ethnic then why not just say music?

    there is obviously some non ethnic catagory if u say ethnic.

    its bullshit

    whats next..... colored?

    Ethnic means pertaining to a particular culture.

    In musical terms it usually refers indigenous forms of music because modern music like rock, or even classical, is not unique to a single culture.

    And yes, it refers to musics of all people, not sure why you are getting all hot and bothered.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Horseleech said:
    batmon said:
    if you are not omitting any culture whrn using ethnic then why not just say music?

    there is obviously some non ethnic catagory if u say ethnic.

    its bullshit

    whats next..... colored?

    Ethnic means pertaining to a particular culture.

    In musical terms it usually refers indigenous forms of music because modern music like rock, or even classical, is not unique to a single culture.

    And yes, it refers to musics of all people, not sure why you are getting all hot and bothered.

    keep it real.......if someone posted a Pat Boone song dont front like u would agree with it being considered "ethnic".
    the idea of pure culture or 'particular' culture is flimsy.

    whats a single culture?

  • batmon said:
    Horseleech said:
    batmon said:
    if you are not omitting any culture whrn using ethnic then why not just say music?

    there is obviously some non ethnic catagory if u say ethnic.

    its bullshit

    whats next..... colored?

    Ethnic means pertaining to a particular culture.

    In musical terms it usually refers indigenous forms of music because modern music like rock, or even classical, is not unique to a single culture.

    And yes, it refers to musics of all people, not sure why you are getting all hot and bothered.

    keep it real.......if someone posted a Pat Boone song dont front like u would agree with it being considered "ethnic".

    Horseleech said:
    modern music like rock, or even classical, is not unique to a single culture.

    the idea of pure culture or 'particular' culture is flimsy.

    whats a single culture?

    No offense, but now you just sound ignorant.

    Until recently, the world had many of thousands of unique cultures. With the onset of modernity that number is dwindling rapidly. I really don't know how anyone who cares about music (or culture in general) could be unaware of this. When you see Folkways or Ocora records, what do you think is on them?

  • buttonbutton 1,475 Posts
    I don't really think the OG tune up there comes from the same place as the Backstreet Boys, sorry. Ethnic (in music terms) does not mean any music ever made by a human. It could, I guess, be thought of as non-commercialized folk music of any origin. If you really want to talk about ethnic to include everyone, white america as well, then it should be ok for people to walk around and say they're proud to be white, and the White Day parade would follow the weekend after the Cuban Day parade and the Irish day parade.

    Culture that predates establishment or commercial mechanisms can be deemed ethnic. It doesn't really have anything to do with race. I, personally, wouldn't call that Punjab MC youtube up there "ethnic" as it was obviously designed to sell CDs, too modern, too commercial of a purpose. "The Man" has no ethnicity.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    ill have to disagree that any human culture evolves in a vacuum.

    jungles, snow mountains, islands or poor hoods i dont see it.

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    ethnic [eth-nik] ???
    ???adjective
    1. pertaining to or characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like.
    2. referring to the origin, classification, characteristics, etc., of such groups.
    3. being a member of an ethnic group, especially of a group that is a minority within a larger society: ethnic Chinese in San Francisco.
    4. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of members of such a group.
    5. belonging to or deriving from the cultural, racial, religious, or linguistic traditions of a people or country: ethnic dances.
    I can understand the irritation, but I think it's an acceptable term when used correctly.

    If you're talking about something specific like "Songs of the Baddi Community of Garhwal" then surely that's the very definition of Ethnic Music.
    But if you're using it as a label for anything that is Indian music, you're on shaky ground.

  • discos_almadiscos_alma discos_alma 2,164 Posts
    Is Batnom one of those who wants "Ethnic Studies" dept's in High Schools to get shut down?

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    button said:
    Culture that predates establishment or commercial mechanisms can be deemed ethnic. It doesn't really have anything to do with race. I, personally, wouldn't call that Punjab MC youtube up there "ethnic" as it was obviously designed to sell CDs, too modern, too commercial of a purpose. "The Man" has no ethnicity.

    where is the cutoff point?

    before recorded music didnt cultures influence each other?

    The Man means white folks at the top and then everyone else. It doesnt mean the white man as the other.

    im in the 21 century......how bout yall?

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,473 Posts
    SportCasual said:
    kala is an ethnic banger

    Ron Hightower is an ethnic banger. Hiyooooo!

  • buttonbutton 1,475 Posts
    ethnic-american |

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    button said:

    Culture that predates establishment or commercial mechanisms can be deemed ethnic.

    I don't understand.

    If I was to post up a Lebanese autotune ballad from this past summer or last year's Kenyan pop dance hit with almost a million YouTube hits, would it belong in this thread?

  • ethnic [eth-nik] ???
    ???adjective
    1. pertaining to or characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like.
    2. referring to the origin, classification, characteristics, etc., of such groups.
    3. being a member of an ethnic group, especially of a group that is a minority within a larger society: ethnic Chinese in San Francisco.
    4. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of members of such a group.
    5. belonging to or deriving from the cultural, racial, religious, or linguistic traditions of a people or country: ethnic dances.
    I can understand the irritation, but I think it's an acceptable term when used correctly.


    If you're talking about something specific like "Songs of the Baddi Community of Garhwal" then surely that's the very definition of Ethnic Music.
    But if you're using it as a label for anything that is Indian music, you're on shaky ground.

    ^^^^^ this. for sure. Shaky ground also includes what American record stores often refer to as "World Music" or "International".

  • bassie said:
    button said:

    Culture that predates establishment or commercial mechanisms can be deemed ethnic.

    I don't understand.

    If I was to post up a Lebanese autotune ballad from this past summer or last year's Kenyan pop dance hit with almost a million YouTube hits, would it belong in this thread?

    No, at least not as examples of ethnic music.

  • bassie said:
    button said:

    Culture that predates establishment or commercial mechanisms can be deemed ethnic.

    I don't understand.

    If I was to post up a Lebanese autotune ballad from this past summer or last year's Kenyan pop dance hit with almost a million YouTube hits, would it belong in this thread?

    I would think No
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