Obama's Mid-East Speech

fishmongerfunk

was brilliant....it's long but worth it:

Fatback

YES!!!

pcmr

really loved the speech
i hope he adresses african nations in a similar open honest fashion
cant wait to see the republicans try to spin this
love thefact the whitehouse has a youtube channel

Rockadelic

Very well done.

Am I the only one who noticed the fly land on his forehead at the 16:50 mark??

DJ_Enki

cant wait to see the republicans try to spin this

Thus far, the number-one talking point is: "OMG, he called us a Muslim nation!"

I'm sure there's plenty more crazy to come, too.

white_tea

cant wait to see the republicans try to spin this

Thus far, the number-one talking point is: "OMG, he called us a Muslim nation!"

I'm sure there's plenty more crazy to come, too.

From Fox News. Don't even need to read the headline, just check the URL:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/04/obama-overture-hamas-suggests-inevitability-terror-groups-dominance/

Jonny_Paycheck

I'm eager to hear RootlessCosmo's thoughts

soulmarcosa

cant wait to see the republicans try to spin this

Within minutes, Rush Limbaugh seized upon the section about partnerships between the USA and the muslim world and raved that it would mean us partnering with the muslim equivalents of ACORN and Jeremiah Wright, and us paying more taxes for muslim-oriented business & outreach programs.

Pistol_Pete

Incredible speech.

Fox News headline is "Obama's Invitation To Terrorists"

wow

faux_rillz

I'm eager to hear RootlessCosmo's thoughts

He seems to be on an extended Asian sabbatical at the moment--I'm hoping it's mellowed the boy.

Jonny_Paycheck

I'm eager to hear RootlessCosmo's thoughts

He seems to be on an extended Asian sabbatical at the moment--I'm hoping it's mellowed the boy.

Please - let us not forget that his nom de guerre, inspired by an obscure Fredro Starr alias, is "Never Fails The Israelian".

Unherd

I've been meaning to talk to my pops about his feelings on Obama's new "balanced" approach. He's pretty staunch on both Obama and Israel (very pro both), but I've spent a lot of time talking to him about the settlements issue. Definitely interested in hearing Rootless's take.

That said, I watched Obama on youtube today, and I also happen to be reading the new Neil MacFarquhar book. So many of his prescriptions for what ails the Middle East were touched on in this speech that I actually felt almost optimistic about US strategy in the region. Interested in hearing what the board's conservatives have to say about the speech as well. Except dolo, F*ck that dude..

LaserWolf

cant wait to see the republicans try to spin this

Ah, he said Muslims are great and criticized the USA.
Talking points for days.

SmallAxeRick

Despite my distaste for Obama, the speech was mostly good.

keithvanhorn

Despite my distaste for Obama, the speech was mostly good.

DOR

Is this video marked private for anyone else trying to watch???

georgeibrahim

yeah i'm having trouble seeing this too, does anyone else have a working youtube link?

faux_rillz

Is this video marked private for anyone else trying to watch???

PRIVATE PRESIDENT

Ex-Boyfriend

Speech was your typical Obama speech. Formulaic, sappy and devoid of any intellectual content.

Not that I am upset about it. It didn't even touch on what policy changes we could expect to see. Apart from garnering some predictably adoring praise from the press it is of no consequence whatsoever. Relations remain exactly where they were prior to the speech.

deej

Speech was your typical Obama speech. Formulaic, sappy and devoid of any intellectual content.

Not that I am upset about it. It didn't even touch on what policy changes we could expect to see. Apart from garnering some predictably adoring praise from the press it is of no consequence whatsoever. Relations remain exactly where they were prior to the speech.

this is a pretty awful post
i dont think anyone expected relations to shift as a result of a single speech - in fact, he said as much in the speech.
the speech his hardly of 'no consequence'
as he pretty explicitly stated a policy change from the bush admin re: israeli settlements. there were other significant policies mentioned (i.e. the intent to microfinance women's educations) but i suppose u just dont find those to be 'significant'

yeah all in all your post was pretty moronic

fishmongerfunk

Speech was your typical Obama speech. Formulaic, sappy and devoid of any intellectual content.

Not that I am upset about it. It didn't even touch on what policy changes we could expect to see. Apart from garnering some predictably adoring praise from the press it is of no consequence whatsoever. Relations remain exactly where they were prior to the speech.

this is a pretty awful post

i dont think anyone expected relations to shift as a result of a single speech - in fact, he said as much in the speech.
the speech his hardly of 'no consequence'
as he pretty explicitly stated a policy change from the bush admin re: israeli settlements. there were other significant policies mentioned (i.e. the intent to microfinance women's educations) but i suppose u just dont find those to be 'significant'

yeah all in all your post was pretty moronic

come on dude, i thought we were all in agreement that we were not going to respond to his troll-esque comments anymore.

deej

didnt know he was a troll my bad

great post !!!

LaserWolf

Interested in hearing what the board's conservatives have to say about the speech as well. Except dolo, F*ck that dude..

DOR

Interested in hearing what the board's conservatives have to say about the speech as well. Except dolo, F*ck that dude..

Atleast he's not as bad as some of those drunk dudes over in Israel.



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fishmongerfunk

"i'm a political science major so i know my shit...who is benjamin yahoo?"

those drunk people in that video in no way represent any mainstream israeli sentiments. if you ever have the pleasure of visiting israel you will find that these throngs of young american/canadian, conservative teens/twentysoemtings spouting off loudly and passionately on terraces about shit they have no clue about. they are always the most strident ones and the ones who avoid military service at all costs.

Ex-Boyfriend

Speech was your typical Obama speech. Formulaic, sappy and devoid of any intellectual content.

Not that I am upset about it. It didn't even touch on what policy changes we could expect to see. Apart from garnering some predictably adoring praise from the press it is of no consequence whatsoever. Relations remain exactly where they were prior to the speech.

this is a pretty awful post

i dont think anyone expected relations to shift as a result of a single speech - in fact, he said as much in the speech.
the speech his hardly of 'no consequence'
as he pretty explicitly stated a policy change from the bush admin re: israeli settlements. there were other significant policies mentioned (i.e. the intent to microfinance women's educations) but i suppose u just dont find those to be 'significant'

yeah all in all your post was pretty moronic

Nah. Bush himself criticized the israeli settlements and the 'roadmap to peace' calls for a freeze on their expansion. Micro-credit for women in the middle east is another years old bush policy.

deej

Speech was your typical Obama speech. Formulaic, sappy and devoid of any intellectual content.

Not that I am upset about it. It didn't even touch on what policy changes we could expect to see. Apart from garnering some predictably adoring praise from the press it is of no consequence whatsoever. Relations remain exactly where they were prior to the speech.

this is a pretty awful post

i dont think anyone expected relations to shift as a result of a single speech - in fact, he said as much in the speech.
the speech his hardly of 'no consequence'
as he pretty explicitly stated a policy change from the bush admin re: israeli settlements. there were other significant policies mentioned (i.e. the intent to microfinance women's educations) but i suppose u just dont find those to be 'significant'

yeah all in all your post was pretty moronic

Nah. Bush himself criticized the israeli settlements and the 'roadmap to peace' calls for a freeze on their expansion.

and then winked & looked the other way when israel continued building those settlements, while obama has been doing the opposite. come on

Ex-Boyfriend

Please explain what Obama has been doing differently re israeli settlements.

deej

bringing to people's attention that israel has to cease settlement activity

deej

i mean why would he make a big deal out of it if it was going to be ignored anyway, making him look like a wuss? hes not gonna stand up & say 'stop doing this' if hes going to let it happen anyway, it would be an embarrassment

Ex-Boyfriend

bringing to people's attention that israel has to cease settlement activity

I've already explained why this is wrong. All you have to do is google "bush israeli settlements" to know that your alleged difference isn't anything of the sort.