Obama Totalitarianism

LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
edited November 2008 in Strut Central
Here is what my Republican relatives have been saying all week:b, 21b, 21Washington Timesb, 21b, 21Friday, October 31, 2008b, 21EDITORIAL: What if Democrats win it all?b, 21b, 21If Barack Obama is elected into office as the 44th president of the United States on Nov. 4 and voters, in tandem, give the Democrats 60 seats in the Senate and give them a solid majority in the House. What happens after Inauguration Day?b, 21b, 21Single-party rule is inherently totalitarian whether the people consent to it or not. In most cases, one-party states rise out of authoritarian regimes, including former monarchies, or socialist revolutions. There are currently seven - China, Cuba, Eritrea, Laos, Vietnam, Syria, Korea. The United States would become the eighth.b, 21b, 21Single-party rule is something to fear in and of itself - particularly from a spending standpoint, regardless of which party has absolute power. From 2003 to 2005, George W. Bush and the Republican Congress created the largest expansion of Medicare in history the prescription-drug bill and started two wars. They also succeeded in creating the largest tax cut in history.b, 21b, 21From 1932 to 1980, virtually every Democratic president with the exception of Harry Truman had a period of single-party rule. The difference is that Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton didn't have cohesive majorities of the same mind.b, 21b, 21"In 1976 under Carter, you still had Southern Democrats," said David Boaz, executive vice president of the Cato Institute. "The question is, does the president have a working majority in Congress? Arguably Democratic presidents from 1932 to 1980 didn't have a working majority. Even in the Clinton administration, it is not clear that Clinton had a working majority, because he couldn't get gays in the military and he couldn't get health care."b, 21b, 21In the case of Mr. Carter, liberal Democrats like Ted Kennedy, who ran against Mr. Carter in the 1980 Democratic primary, the president could have been considered a Blue Dog, a fiscal conservative Southern Democrat. Mr. Carter was a former businessman who deregulated the trucking, airline, rail, finance, communications and oil industries. He also happened to be a Teddy Roosevelt environmentalist, expanding the National Park Service and increasing Federal park land and had a very authoritarian energy policy, including gas rationing. Then again, Mr. Carter and the Democratic Congress also created the Department of Education.b, 21b, 21LBJ's majority increased spending by about $5.4 trillion on programs like socialized medicine (Medicaid and Medicare), the Department of Transportation infinitely increased the size and scope of government. However, ending the government-sanctioned racial oligarchy in America clearly overshadowed the inevitable fiscal destruction those policies would someday wrought. Still, there was some level of resistance in all of those administrations, even Mr. Johnson's.b, 21b, 21An Obama administration would have none. The Democratic Congress has moved further left since 1992 and is now solidly liberal under the leadership of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. There is no Southern centrist in the Northern liberal Mr. Obama.b, 21b, 21In the first two years of Mr. Obama's term, there will be significant tax-and-spend policies and legislation, and then, in 2010, taxes will increase automatically when the Bush tax cuts expire. After that, assuming the liberal anti-war crowd has pulled us out of Iraq, spending will explode.b, 21b, 21Here is some of what to expect from the new majority Mr. Obama has spoken of so eloquently on the stump: At least 20 new urban one-stop, job-training, parent counseling, education, arts and recreation centers will crop up in cities across America; Medicaid will grotesquely expand as Mr. Obama institutes his health-care reform policy; government regulation will grow, too; and the Blue Dogs, perhaps enthused to be solidly ensconced in the majority, won't be there to stop the raping of the coffers as liberals push for higher taxes. In fact, if the Democrats sweep all three institutions on Tuesday, expect Big Government to earn capitalization from Inauguration Day forward.

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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21Washington Timesb, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21I stopped reading after this line.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Did your Republican relatives make this argument during the years where Bush had Republican majorities in both houses of Congress?b, 21b, 21I'm thinking: no.

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21At least 20 new urban one-stop, job-training, parent counseling, education, arts and recreation centers will crop up in cities across America b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21OH NO! PERISH THE THOUGHT!b, 21b, 21I'm wondering what happened to the America of my childhood,b, 21where community involvement and government encouragment forb, 21the arts was seen as a good thing. So many people today areb, 21all about "MY MONEY MY MONEY MY MONEY" and getting all workedb, 21up over where "their" tax money goes ... yet these same peopleb, 21barely blink an eye at billions of dollars of "their" tax moneyb, 21spent on wars that kill young Americans and destroy our imageb, 21around the world - but talk about using that same tax money tob, 21improve the quality of life for AMERICANS, and suddenly it'sb, 21all about "THOSE COMMIES ARE STEALING MY MONEY."b, 21b, 21I actually find it pretty disgusting.

  • For real though I must say that this is the argument McCain should have been making all along: that it's not about right or left or tax cuts or Iraq or Jeremiah Wright....it's just "let's not give control over every apparatus of gov't to one single party."b, 21b, 21it's that simple -- checks and balances. I think this is a winner and should have been the central theme of McCain's campaign.b, 21b, 21(I'm glad it wasn't!)

  • This was printed in a newspaper?

  • theory9theory9 1,128 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21Did your Republican relatives make this argument during the years where Bush had Republican majorities in both houses of Congress?b, 21b, 21I'm thinking: no. b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/game.gif" alt="" 21

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,473 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21This was printed in a newspaper? b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21Close, but you're way off. It was printed in the Moonie Times.

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    I heard some hillbilly winguts flipping out on a rural radio call-in show the other day - apparently Obama is going to enact a radical redistribution of the wealth wherein 10% of the population writes checks to the govt & the other 90% gets checks from the govt - a caller with a deep Southern accent said something about organizing "real Americans, not voters, but Americans" to "return to the principles our founding fathers intended for us" in 2012 - the host corrected him saying that Obama & the Dems will retain power indefintely because of this radical tax plan - "who is gonna turn down money from the gum'mint??"b, 21

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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21Did your Republican relatives make this argument during the years where Bush had Republican majorities in both houses of Congress?b, 21b, 21I'm thinking: no. b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/game.gif" alt="" 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21yea, how was this published? the author just conveniently leaves out the presidential period that was all the way back in...2001-2004.

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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I heard some hillbilly winguts flipping out on a rural radio call-in show the other day - apparently Obama is going to enact a radical redistribution of the wealth wherein 10% of the population writes checks to the govt & the other 90% gets checks from the govt - a caller with a deep Southern accent said something about organizing "real Americans, not voters, but Americans" to "return to the principles our founding fathers intended for us" in 2012 - the host corrected him saying that Obama & the Dems will retain power indefintely because of this radical tax plan - "who is gonna turn down money from the gum'mint??"b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21That's rich. "The majority will like it - how are we gonna make them reject it?"

  • i actually learned something, i didn't know that carter created the department of education. that's cool.

  • verb606verb606 2,518 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I heard some hillbilly winguts flipping out on a rural radio call-in show the other day - apparently Obama is going to enact a radical redistribution of the wealth wherein 10% of the population writes checks to the govt & the other 90% gets checks from the govt - a caller with a deep Southern accent said something about organizing "real Americans, not voters, but Americans" to "return to the principles our founding fathers intended for us" in 2012 - the host corrected him saying that Obama & the Dems will retain power indefintely because of this radical tax plan - "who is gonna turn down money from the gum'mint??"b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21Was I not paying attention to Obama during the campaign? I thought that taxes weren't going up for people making $250,000 or less. Has he gone back on that already. Are these callers super baller farmer dudes making millions a year? I thought the American farmer was getting hit hard. b, 21b, 21color me disconnected. I must not have gotten the memo on the "radical tax plan."

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I heard some hillbilly winguts flipping out on a rural radio call-in show the other day - apparently Obama is going to enact a radical redistribution of the wealth wherein 10% of the population writes checks to the govt & the other 90% gets checks from the govt - a caller with a deep Southern accent said something about organizing "real Americans, not voters, but Americans" to "return to the principles our founding fathers intended for us" in 2012 - the host corrected him saying that Obama & the Dems will retain power indefintely because of this radical tax plan - "who is gonna turn down money from the gum'mint??"b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21Was I not paying attention to Obama during the campaign? I thought that taxes weren't going up for people making $250,000 or less. Has he gone back on that already. Are these callers super baller farmer dudes making millions a year? I thought the American farmer was getting hit hard. b, 21b, 21color me disconnected. I must not have gotten the memo on the "radical tax plan." b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21didn't you hear him tell Joe the Plumber he was going to 'spread the wealth'?b, 21b, 21an old radio interview where Obama discussed court decisions enforcing 'economic justice' got a lot of play in 'angry right' circles as wellb, 21b, 21the part that really gets me is the 'real Americans' talk - Palin appealled to this line of thought with her 'he doesn't see America like we do', 'this is the real America', 'this is the pro-America part of the country' - that was coded language aimed at redneck racists who perceive 'American' as a distinct white ethnic groupb, 21b, 21F*ck that & F*ck themb, 21b, 21in the words of Curtis Mayfield - 'This is My Country'

  • b,121b,121I am going to race to the next gun show to buy some assault rifles from some angry rednecks before the Democrats close the gun show loophole.b,121b,121That way, when the angry rednecks try to take over parts of the country, I will have assault rifles with which to defend my family.

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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I heard some hillbilly winguts flipping out on a rural radio call-in show the other day - apparently Obama is going to enact a radical redistribution of the wealth wherein 10% of the population writes checks to the govt & the other 90% gets checks from the govt - a caller with a deep Southern accent said something about organizing "real Americans, not voters, but Americans" to "return to the principles our founding fathers intended for us" in 2012 - the host corrected him saying that Obama & the Dems will retain power indefintely because of this radical tax plan - "who is gonna turn down money from the gum'mint??"b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21Was I not paying attention to Obama during the campaign? I thought that taxes weren't going up for people making $250,000 or less. Has he gone back on that already. Are these callers super baller farmer dudes making millions a year? I thought the American farmer was getting hit hard. b, 21b, 21color me disconnected. I must not have gotten the memo on the "radical tax plan." b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21didn't you hear him tell Joe the Plumber he was going to 'spread the wealth'?b, 21b, 21an old radio interview where Obama discussed court decisions enforcing 'economic justice' got a lot of play in 'angry right' circles as wellb, 21b, 21the part that really gets me is the 'real Americans' talk - Palin appealled to this line of thought with her 'he doesn't see America like we do', 'this is the real America', 'this is the pro-America part of the country' - that was coded language aimed at redneck racists who perceive 'American' as a distinct white ethnic groupb, 21b, 21F*ck that & F*ck themb, 21b, 21in the words of Curtis Mayfield - 'This is My Country' b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21to be fair they were saying the same shit about gore and kerry. if people can't see through that tactic they are really dumb.

  • Obamatalitarianism

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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I heard some hillbilly winguts flipping out on a rural radio call-in show the other day - apparently Obama is going to enact a radical redistribution of the wealth wherein 10% of the population writes checks to the govt & the other 90% gets checks from the govt - a caller with a deep Southern accent said something about organizing "real Americans, not voters, but Americans" to "return to the principles our founding fathers intended for us" in 2012 - the host corrected him saying that Obama & the Dems will retain power indefintely because of this radical tax plan - "who is gonna turn down money from the gum'mint??"b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21That is not as self evidently nonsensical as you seem to think it is. Under bush's 'regressive' tax code the top 25% of earners are responsible for near enough 90% of the income tax revenue.

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I heard some hillbilly winguts flipping out on a rural radio call-in show the other day - apparently Obama is going to enact a radical redistribution of the wealth wherein 10% of the population writes checks to the govt & the other 90% gets checks from the govt - a caller with a deep Southern accent said something about organizing "real Americans, not voters, but Americans" to "return to the principles our founding fathers intended for us" in 2012 - the host corrected him saying that Obama & the Dems will retain power indefintely because of this radical tax plan - "who is gonna turn down money from the gum'mint??"b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21That is not as self evidently nonsensical as you seem to think it is. Under bush's 'regressive' tax code the top 25% of earners are responsible for near enough 90% of the income tax revenue. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I'm looking forward to my check from the gum'mintb, 21b, 21and also some of that socialized medicineb, 21b, 21yay handouts! I hate workb, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/balla-22.gif" alt="" 21

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I heard some hillbilly winguts flipping out on a rural radio call-in show the other day - apparently Obama is going to enact a radical redistribution of the wealth wherein 10% of the population writes checks to the govt & the other 90% gets checks from the govt - a caller with a deep Southern accent said something about organizing "real Americans, not voters, but Americans" to "return to the principles our founding fathers intended for us" in 2012 - the host corrected him saying that Obama & the Dems will retain power indefintely because of this radical tax plan - "who is gonna turn down money from the gum'mint??"b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21That is not as self evidently nonsensical as you seem to think it is. Under bush's 'regressive' tax code the top 25% of earners are responsible for near enough 90% of the income tax revenue. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I'm looking forward to my check from the gum'mintb, 21b, 21and also some of that socialized medicineb, 21b, 21yay handouts! I hate workb, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/balla-22.gif" alt="" 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I know better.b, 21b, 21I know you're being sarcastic.b, 21b, 21I know no Americans actually have this "handout" mentality.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I heard some hillbilly winguts flipping out on a rural radio call-in show the other day - apparently Obama is going to enact a radical redistribution of the wealth wherein 10% of the population writes checks to the govt & the other 90% gets checks from the govt - a caller with a deep Southern accent said something about organizing "real Americans, not voters, but Americans" to "return to the principles our founding fathers intended for us" in 2012 - the host corrected him saying that Obama & the Dems will retain power indefintely because of this radical tax plan - "who is gonna turn down money from the gum'mint??"b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21That is not as self evidently nonsensical as you seem to think it is. Under bush's 'regressive' tax code the top 25% of earners are responsible for near enough 90% of the income tax revenue. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I'm looking forward to my check from the gum'mintb, 21b, 21and also some of that socialized medicineb, 21b, 21yay handouts! I hate workb, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/balla-22.gif" alt="" 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I know better.b, 21b, 21I know you're being sarcastic.b, 21b, 21I know no Americans actually have this "handout" mentality. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21/object1

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/emil.gif" alt="" 21

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    Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21I know no Americans actually have this "handout" mentality. b, 21b, 21h, 21
    b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I've met plenty who do.
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