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"Obama 'The Wealth Spreader'"

dayday 9,611 Posts
edited October 2008 in Strut Central
So is this their newest line of attack? Drudge posted this "BOMBSHELL" audio yesterday of Obama mentioning redistribution of wealth and it looks like the Republicans are running with it full speed. "Socialist": the new "N" word...b, 21b, 21object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1b,121b, 21
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  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    It's not going to stick. I swear though I watched that video that you posted yesterday and looking at these people and the way they're all "Commie this" and "Commie that" I was thinking what the F*ck is this 1956?
  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    The GOP has been pushing the socialist tag for a week, and it's really not gaining traction with anyone besides the hardcore party faithful. Yet another in a long series of failed strategies. They're grasping at straws in a last-ditch effort to change the game, and switching up constantly when shit doesn't stick. Some might call it....erratic.b,121b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /1
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    At this point I am not worried about anything other than voter disenfranchisement.
  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121At this point I am not worried about anything other than voter disenfranchisement. b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Absolutely. I have to hand it to the Republicans???their manipulation of the voter rolls is yet another example of the effectiveness of their election machine. They're masters of realpolitik, domestically and abroad.
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Man did you guys see what's going on in Georgia? With the record numbers they're expecting this year shit is gonna get ugly.b,121b, 21http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/26/voter.suppression//a1b, 21b, 21The reason I brought up the "Wealth Spreader" thing is because that line of attack (and others) has been popping up everywhere I see. Comments, msg boards, etc. and the tone is getting ugly. The way it's used is tantamount to "he wants to give your money to them". I can't lie, I'm still concerned that race is gonna be a bigger factor than people are copping to.
  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
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    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Georgia, Florida and Ohio all looking suspect.b,121b, 21And remember the shit with the exit polling suddenly getting dropped last election? Still don't really know what happened there.
  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121The way it's used is tantamount to "he wants to give your money to them".b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Yupb, 21b, 21I'm seeing McCain banner ads above with the terms 'welfare' & 'handout'
  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
    And I'm seeing Arabian Prince banners - see he is the ANTICHRIST!
  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
    Seriously. Votes my age weren't even alive during the "Commie scare!"b, 21b, 21I still don't understand what people were scared of. b, 21b, 21so to say "Th-th-thats communist!" just sounds funny. People my age are scared of terrorists, not communists.
  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    apparently tax breaks for the wealthy = pro-America
  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    And Obama's rebuff has been succinct and dead on: "Was John McCain a Socialist in 2000 when he proposed the same tax cuts?"b, 21b, 21b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/breakface.gif" alt="" /1
  • FrankFrank 2,373 Posts
    How large do you think the precentage is of those who feel they are wealthy enough to have something to be "spread around" as compared to the precentage of those who feel like they would rather benefit from a redistribution of wealth?b, 21b, 21I somehow think that the republicans are shooting themselves into the foot and are in fact campaigning for Obama instead of against him.
  • ariel_calmerariel_calmer 3,762 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121apparently tax breaks for the wealthy = pro-America b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21This has always been completely baffling to me. As far as I can see it, people either aren't able to discern if a raise in a tax bracket affects them, or they prefer to think of themselves as always maybe getting rich.
  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121How large do you think the precentage is of those who feel they are wealthy enough to have something to be "spread around" as compared to the precentage of those who feel like they would rather benefit from a redistribution of wealth?b, 21b, 21I somehow think that the republicans are shooting themselves into the foot and are in fact campaigning for Obama instead of against him. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21b, 21More than can statistically be possible. See also: American Dream.b,121b, 21in 2000 some dude I worked with, making half as much as me, told me he voted for the dumb guy because the smart guy wanted to F*ck with his bank account. f*ckin dipshit. Many Americans on the corporate ladder feel they are only a couple of promotions away from living a CEO lifestyle, golf, loafers, etc. This is why they think corporations have their best interests at heart. They feel more solidarity with their employers than they do with their peers in other industries. I have worked at at least half a dozen NYSE/NASDAQ listed companies and they are all like that.
  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    the perception of what tax money is being spent on is also completely skewed - the GOP tries to turn out the racist vote by making noise about 'welfare' & 'handouts' while our overseas wars are the biggest handout / boondoggle there is - see: Haliburton, KBR etc
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
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  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    Vitamin can eat a bag of no-bid contracts, straight up
  • ariel_calmerariel_calmer 3,762 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z140/ghubacek/bunk.gif"1 b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Very appropriate gremlin usage. img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/green30sv.gif" alt="" /1
  • GrandfatherGrandfather 2,303 Posts
    its like a bad joke n shitb,121b, 21img src="http://www.commieobama.com/Images/Product_Pics/HatSmall.jpg"1
  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121How large do you think the precentage is of those who feel they are wealthy enough to have something to be "spread around" as compared to the precentage of those who feel like they would rather benefit from a redistribution of wealth?b, 21b, 21I somehow think that the republicans are shooting themselves into the foot and are in fact campaigning for Obama instead of against him. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21This line of attack worked well for the GOP when taxes were much higher in the late 70s. But fewer people today believe that they are winning in this economy. Still, betting on Americans hating the rich is a dubious proposition.
  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,903 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z140/ghubacek/bunk.gif"1 b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21b,121b, 21I've almost lost faith in the world.b, 21b, 21b, 21Here is something realllly sick.b,121b, 21b,121b, 21Some women loses her home in all this. And then another women buys the home and gives it back to her. I don't know if she gave it right back or if she's just letting her live there for free...b, 21b, 21But the part that makes me sick is reading comments others write on the story.b, 21b, 21Here is the video.b, 21b, 21http://video.aol.com/video-detail/foreclosure-angel/1980172165/?icid=VIDLRVNWS03/a1b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21Now read some of the comments.b, 21b, 21http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/commen...ed_home/.mobile/a1b, 21b, 21b, 21Shit is just plain sad.b, 21b,121b, 21In any case. Be scared fools. Obama is tryin' to make you a socialist Canadian!!!
  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,473 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121How large do you think the precentage is of those who feel they are wealthy enough to have something to be "spread around" as compared to the precentage of those who feel like they would rather benefit from a redistribution of wealth?b, 21b, 21I somehow think that the republicans are shooting themselves into the foot and are in fact campaigning for Obama instead of against him. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21This line of attack worked well for the GOP when taxes were much higher in the late 70s. But fewer people today believe that they are winning in this economy. Still, betting on Americans hating the rich is a dubious proposition. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21All very true, but I can still see this working somewhat. Not the whole "OMG COMMIEZ!" thing, but just that pretty much everybody feels as though they pay too much in taxes. Telling those people that they're right certainly appeals to them, and then you couple that with "...and Obama thinks you should pay even *more* in taxes!" is a good scare that could push the proverbial low-information voter toward McCain.b, 21b, 21Is it a lie? Sure. But we're talking about a campagin that continues to repeat the "will raises taxes on people making $42,000 a year" lie even after it has repeatedly, publically debunked. Truth doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot.
  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
    I'm still reeling at the sheer number of US political commentators, both pro- and am- , whose understanding, knowledge and, more importantly, first-hand experience of socialism probably doesn't amount to much more than a theoretical one, yet are acting like it can be summarised as "commies/welfare/handouts". These people are f*cking idiots. America has never had socialism, and probably never will. For a developed nation, however, it does have a disproprtionate amount of people who can't afford to get sick, or afford a decent stanard of education or a decent home. Anyone who thinks Obama is a socialist - in fact, anyone who thinks there is a single, genuine democratic socialist in the whole of Washington - belongs in a rubber room.
  • UnherdUnherd 1,880 Posts
    I have a hard time believing that they believe it themselves. While I'm sure some are genuinely panicked, I think most commentators are more cynical, who see invoking "socialism" or "marxism" as a strategic dog whistle to get Americans angry that their hard earned money will end up helping welfare moms buy Cadillacs. b, 21b, 21Part of me thinks they know if Americans get something like national healthcare, and our entire society doesnt in fact crumble, it will open the door to even more (potentially successful) government programs. They don't want to make the same mistake they did with Social Security, where once people saw it as a functioning, normal part of American life, they are resistant to any attempt to roll it back. For these commentators, screaming "socialist" is a way to avoid what they see as the "slippery slope"....
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Drudge posted this "BOMBSHELL" audio yesterday of Obama mentioning redistribution of wealth and it looks like...b, 21b, 21 b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21...McCain is now following suit.b, 21b, 21http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/mccain-to-attac.html/a1
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Drudge posted this "BOMBSHELL" audio yesterday of Obama mentioning redistribution of wealth and it looks like...b, 21b, 21 b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21...McCain is now following suit.b, 21b, 21http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/mccain-to-attac.html/a1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21b, 21If you read the transcript there's not really anything there. He basically says that those who claimed the Warren court was "radical" were wrong.b, 21This whole socialist/commie thing may get the bunker dwellers out to the polls, but I can't see it changing anyone's mind.
  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,903 Posts
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  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121I'm still reeling at the sheer number of US political commentators, both pro- and am- , whose understanding, knowledge and, more importantly, first-hand experience of socialism probably doesn't amount to much more than a theoretical one, yet are acting like it can be summarised as "commies/welfare/handouts". These people are f*cking idiots. America has never had socialism, and probably never will. For a developed nation, however, it does have a disproprtionate amount of people who can't afford to get sick, or afford a decent stanard of education or a decent home. Anyone who thinks Obama is a socialist - in fact, anyone who thinks there is a single, genuine democratic socialist in the whole of Washington - belongs in a rubber room. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cos3ve.gif" alt="" /1b,121b, 21Note she says something about Obama trying to make us like Sweden. Now we are supposed to be afraid of Swedish style socialism? Will John McCain attack Sweden if elected and free the Swedish people from Socialism? Will Vitamin support him if he does?
  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    Ted Stevens Convicted.b, 21b, 21Now we're filibuster proof.b, 21b, 21Do the math.
  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
    Everytime I read this title of this thread it makes me think of that old Smoothe Da Hustlerb, 21b, 21The Wealth Spreaderb, 21The Hope Makerb, 21Run over and screw your baby sitter
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