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WTF??? someone stole my record scans!

FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
edited October 2008 in Strut Central
these fools here have stolen a whole slab of scans from my blog, not even giving me any credit:b,121b,121http://www.afrika70.com/#b,121b,121The idiot cheeseball behind this "movie" that never will be shot hastn't even filmed a minute's worth of footage in Africa but only interviewed a (pretty awesome) brittish collecter and presents a trailer that's a montage of stolen footage. Although for the footage, he went through the trouble of stealing from multiple sources (probably typed in "Afrobeat" at amazon.com).b,121b,121There's probably nothing I ccan do since I obviously don't own any rights to those record covers but this is really a pretty poor look.
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  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    The whole layout and presentation of his website is pretty lame and cheap imo. He's got nothing on you. However if you were to present your movie pretty quickly you could beat him to the punch.
  • djdazedjdaze 3,099 Posts
  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,783 Posts
    Watermark your record scans!
  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,905 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Watermark your record scans! b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121b,121X10000000000000000000
  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121The whole layout and presentation of his website is pretty lame and cheap imo. He's got nothing on you. However if you were to present your movie pretty quickly you could beat him to the punch. b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121Oh this movie is never going to happen... guy had this ridiculous idea of rolling from Lagos to Accra with a flatbed trucks that have bands playing on them. A clear sign that this fool has never even crossed an African border. If he actually gets some money (which I highly doubt) he's either going to run with it or waste it on a fruitless effort.b,121b,121I'm pretty sure he's not gotten any authorisation for any of the footage he used for his "teaster".
  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Watermark your record scans! b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121b,121X10000000000000000000 b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121ah, that would look kinda shitty... I don't mind people using these. Just not like this fool and not for commercial purposes
  • dreskieboogiedreskieboogie 951 Posts
    So with all this in mind maybe you should be glad that he didn't credit you. Even though it's fuckt of him.b,121b,121Dress
  • ariel_calmerariel_calmer 3,762 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121guy had this ridiculous idea of rolling from Lagos to Accra with a flatbed trucks that have bands playing on them. A clear sign that this fool has never even crossed an African border. b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121To his defense, he probably figures it would be something like driving from hermosa beach (where he lives) to venice beach. You know, just all casual like. b,121b,121The whole premise is fishy - I like how the teaser trailer is pirated footage. So he's going to somehow resurrect fela kuti and put him on a trailer across Africa? And the direct credit card donation page is out of control.
  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
    just sent him an email:b,121b,121I'm the person you stole "your" record scans from. This is a clear offense since you're using my research for commercial purposes.b,121b,121I'm in the process contacting the copyright holders for the various documentaries from where you've stolen the footage for your "teaser".b,121b,121Should you ever make it to Lagos, Cotonou or Accra, I have various close friends in each city who would be happy to make your stay there as pleasurable as possible.b,121b,121best regardsb,121b,121Frank
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    Maybe Michael "Brix" Bambrick decided to get involved in the Afro record game?
  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121So with all this in mind maybe you should be glad that he didn't credit you. Even though it's fuckt of him.b,121b,121Dress b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121No, I'd much rather have this guy not use my work to try and hussle a few bucks out of people.
  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Maybe Michael "Brix" Bambrick decided to get involved in the Afro record game? b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121ouch.
  • ariel_calmerariel_calmer 3,762 Posts
    Frank, I hear you that this is lame and this guy should get a hefty e-smacking. Unfortunately it's not technically any more or less legal than your posting the scans. "Offense" means an action that violates a law. (I have no idea how this transfers over to Africa, either)
  • Controller_7Controller_7 4,052 Posts
    the irony is that this post will probably lead to his highest number of hits yet.
  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Frank, I hear you that this is lame and this guy should get a hefty e-smacking. Unfortunately it's not technically any more or less legal than your posting the scans. "Offense" means an action that violates a law. (I have no idea how this transfers over to Africa, either) b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121Are you sure?b,121Technically, these are not scans but photographs. Now if you take a photograph of something you don't own any rights to and then someone goes and takes those pictures and uses them to solicitate money from people, pretending that those are the fruits of his own research, that's perfectly legal?b,121b,121I'm only speaking theoretically. There are much more efficient, fun and less costly ways to get back at this foll other than hiring a lawyer.b,121b,121I'm pretty sure that he can get into trouble for using those stolen and uncredited film clips.
  • selperfugeselperfuge 1,165 Posts
    this is a weird thing to get asshurt about. information wants to be free, maaaan.b,121b,121i for one welcome the hilarity that will ensue when the guy visits this thread.
  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121i for one welcome the hilarity that will ensue when the guy visits this thread. b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121b,121yeah, but then again in the Black Devil Doll thread the director showed up and it was a total letdown. Nobody engaged him except me so he got bored and left. Lame.
  • dreskieboogiedreskieboogie 951 Posts
    I meant if he's to use the scans regardless I guess it's best not to be credited, right?b,121b,121Also, technically couldnt you get in trouble emailing him threats?b,121b,121Its fucked up but I would just leave it and move on.b,121b,121Peace,b,121b,121Dress
  • pointmanpointman 1,042 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121just sent him an email:b,121b,121I'm the person you stole "your" record scans from. This is a clear offense since you're using my research for commercial purposes.b,121b,121I'm in the process contacting the copyright holders for the various documentaries from where you've stolen the footage for your "teaser".b,121b,121Should you ever make it to Lagos, Cotonou or Accra, I have various close friends in each city who would be happy to make your stay there as pleasurable as possible.b,121b,121best regardsb,121b,121Frank b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121Man, I want to hear his response!
  • ariel_calmerariel_calmer 3,762 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Are you sure?b,121Technically, these are not scans but photographs. Now if you take a photograph of something you don't own any rights to and then someone goes and takes those pictures and uses them to solicitate money from people, pretending that those are the fruits of his own research, that's perfectly legal?b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121There are exceptions for copyright for academic purposes under fair use. I'm not a lawyer but maybe a case could be made on that. But generally, because you photograph somebody else's work doesn't mean you have any rights to it. b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121I'm only speaking theoretically. There are much more efficient, fun and less costly ways to get back at this foll other than hiring a lawyer.b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121For sure! Hey we'll saddle up the LA soulstrut contingent and ride on over there. b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121I'm pretty sure that he can get into trouble for using those stolen and uncredited film clips. b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121Use of those films is certainly illegal if permission wasn't obtained. This is different. The difference is that those films are of an event, not photos of artwork. I recognize some of the footage from a Fela documentary. VERY FAIL
  • SaracenusSaracenus 671 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Technically, these are not scans but photographs. Now if you take a photograph of something you don't own any rights to and then someone goes and takes those pictures and uses them to solicitate money from people, pretending that those are the fruits of his own research, that's perfectly legal?b,121b,121I'm only speaking theoretically. There are much more efficient, fun and less costly ways to get back at this foll other than hiring a lawyer.b,121b,121I'm pretty sure that he can get into trouble for using those stolen and uncredited film clips. b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121F, copyright and fair use is a hot potato in this country. I am not a lawyer.b,121b,121From a lay perspective if you take a picture, you own the rights to it. However, if you take a picture of someone else and don't secure the rights to use their image you are open to legal action by that person. b,121b,121As for your album covers, which is sounds like you haven't secured permission to use from their respective owners, those right holders could hit you with a take down order. You could challenge that order under fair use. I would say you need to talk to a lawyer to sort this out, just get out the check book.b,121b,121Just as an aside, if you haven't already you need to put text on your site, that images are copyright of you unless otherwise stated.
  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121I meant if he's to use the scans regardless I guess it's best not to be credited, right?b,121b,121Also, technically couldnt you get in trouble emailing him threats?b,121b,121Its fucked up but I would just leave it and move on.b,121b,121Peace,b,121b,121Dress b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121b,121b,121Technically, I didn't make any threats.b,121b,121Practically, i can't get into trouble because i'm immune.
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    Countdown for a .
  • GrandfatherGrandfather 2,303 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121i for one welcome the hilarity that will ensue when the guy visits this thread. b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121b,121yeah, but then again in the Black Devil Doll thread the director showed up and it was a total letdown. Nobody engaged him except me so he got bored and left. Lame. b,121b,121h,121b,121he seemed like the bore dudeb,121you engaged him pretty well and i think he even ignored some of your questions
  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Just as an aside, if you haven't already you need to put text on your site, that images are copyright of you unless otherwise stated. b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121Such a statement has no effect on the actual existence of copyright, but I guess it would have use as a reminder to anyone wishing to use copyright material.
  • selperfugeselperfuge 1,165 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Practically, i can't get into trouble because i'm immune. b,121b,121h,121
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  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Use of those films is certainly illegal if permission wasn't obtained. This is different. The difference is that those films are of an event, not photos of artwork. I recognize some of the footage from a Fela documentary. VERY FAIL b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121There was footage being used for this trailer from at least 4 DVDs that are still in print. One of which is the Ginger Baker in Africa DVD that just got released a year or two ago by Eagle Rock Entertainment, a company that has just received the fiollowing mail:b,121b,121"Dear sirs,b,121b,121You might be interested in the fact that Raymond J. Dumas the Third (no less) uses parts of your DVD "Ginger Baker in Africa" for the "teaser" for his forthcoming film project.b,121b,121Mr. Dumas has set up a website where he posted this trailer including the footage owned by you and where he is soliciting donations towards the funding of his project.b,121b,121http://www.afrika70.com/#b,121b,121best regardsb,121b,121Frank"b,121b,121Now I'm off to write to the folks from the Fela estate...b,121b,121that's what you get for messing with a vengeful person with a lot of time at his disposal.
  • hcrinkhcrink 8,729 Posts
    IT'S A BLOG EAT BLOG WORLD
  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121IT'S A BLOG EAT BLOG WORLD b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121that's not a blog but a commersial website that tries to solicite money.
  • ariel_calmerariel_calmer 3,762 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121IT'S A BLOG EAT BLOG WORLD b,121b,121h,121
    b,121b,121The moral of the story is: A HREF="http://creativecommons.org/">creative commons is a good thing. b,121b,121http://i.creativecommons.org/l/by-nc/3.0/88x31.png" alt="" />
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