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is OBAMA the other end of the karmic cycle?

kalakala 3,361 Posts
edited October 2008 in Strut Central
sorry for starting another obama threadb,121b,121but damm man what are the chances.... after putting up with 8 years of filthy brainless corrupt facist WASP criminalsb,121a 20 billion dollar a month war and all the other horror these idiots have wagedb,121that there will be a black man as presidentb,121fuckk my mind is blown on a daily basis by thisb,121is it just the natural law of karma swinging back around?b,121yin to the yang?

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  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    paging HarveyCanal.
  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
    You know I was actually thinking last night that you almost need something as awful as Bush to make something like Obama possible. Does that make it worth it? Not my call to make.
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121The yin and yang of the same ball of shit system.
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    b,121The yin and yang of the same ball of shit system.
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  • kalakala 3,361 Posts
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    b,121You know I was actually thinking last night that you almost need something as awful as Bush to make something like Obama possible.
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  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
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    b,121The yin and yang of the same ball of shit system.
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    b,121lol
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121what would be truly yin and yang and make all you guys both disgusted and overjoyed would be for Obama and Palin to declare their love for each other.b,121b,121And adopt Winehouse.
  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
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    b,121You know I was actually thinking last night that you almost need something as awful as Bush to make something like Obama possible. Does that make it worth it?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I'd trade back Obama to have had Gore as president the last 8 years. b,121b,121Real talk.
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    b,121You know I was actually thinking last night that you almost need something as awful as Bush to make something like Obama possible. Does that make it worth it?
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    b,121I'd trade back Obama to have had Gore as president the last 8 years.
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    b,121You know I was actually thinking last night that you almost need something as awful as Bush to make something like Obama possible. Does that make it worth it?
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    b,121I'd trade back Obama to have had Gore as president the last 8 years.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121no question.b,121b,121and yo, Obama is inheriting some SHIT. the last eight years of disaster will not be cleaned up in four years of Obama presidency. if the war drags on and the economy doesn't rebound, you'll see the GOP blaming Obama for the very problems he inherited. and it will work.b,121b,121after all, the collective memory of our electorate has historically proven to be less than four years.
  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,473 Posts
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    b,121You know I was actually thinking last night that you almost need something as awful as Bush to make something like Obama possible. Does that make it worth it?
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    b,121I'd trade back Obama to have had Gore as president the last 8 years.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Definitely.b,121b,121Plus, it's kind of a false equivalence. The magnitude of Obama's goodness is nowhere near the magnitude of Bush's shittiness.
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
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    b,121 The magnitude of Obama's goodness is nowhere near the magnitude of Bush's shittiness.
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  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
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    b,121 The magnitude of Obama's goodness is nowhere near the magnitude of Bush's shittiness.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Saying!b,121b,121That said, I'm not sure if Bush's shitiness created an opportunity for Obama - specifically. Bush's low approval ratings meant that ANY Democratic candidate would have had some advantages this year. Obama winning the primary doesn't have to do with Bush so much as it does the strength of his own organization and perhaps also some of symbolic appeal.
  • Mad Drama TeacherMad Drama Teacher 1,985 Posts
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    b,121after all, the collective memory of our electorate has historically proven to be less than four years.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I disagree. I think we're seeing the end of the boomer generation's influence in this election -- thank God.
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    b,121after all, the collective memory of our electorate has historically proven to be less than four years.
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    b,121I disagree. I think we're seeing the end of the boomer generation's influence in this election -- thank God.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121 b,121b,121And adding on... Access to information is becoming less and less centralized and the traditional gatekeepers don't have as much power/influence. The Repubs can complain about the MSM all they want, but I haven't heard a peep about them turning against something like youtube or other socialized media (note: I am not considering blogs here).
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
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    b,121after all, the collective memory of our electorate has historically proven to be less than four years.
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    b,121I disagree. I think we're seeing the end of the boomer generation's influence in this election -- thank God.
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    b,121b,121And adding on... Access to information is becoming less and less centralized and the traditional gatekeepers don't have as much power/influence. The Repubs can complain about the MSM all they want, but I haven't heard a peep about them turning against something like youtube or other socialized media (note: I am not considering blogs here). b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121We spend a ton of time here talking about Ayers, and Keating and other nonsense. b,121b,121I'm guessing that something like 60% of voters will visit both candidates sites, plus sites like snopes/RCP. They are not going to be as influenced by negative attacks and tv ads. b,121b,121I think attacks and whisper campaigns make partisans feel good about their choice and only influence a small % of voters. b,121b,121An other way to put it is; thinking Obama is a Muslim or McCain is erratic, makes someone feel good about their choice. But few people will actually make their choices based on those kinds of attacks.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    b,121after all, the collective memory of our electorate has historically proven to be less than four years.
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    b,121b,121And adding on... Access to information is becoming less and less centralized and the traditional gatekeepers don't have as much power/influence. The Repubs can complain about the MSM all they want, but I haven't heard a peep about them turning against something like youtube or other socialized media (note: I am not considering blogs here). b,121b,121h,121
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    b,121We spend a ton of time here talking about Ayers, and Keating and other nonsense.
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    b,121I'm guessing that something like 60% of voters will visit both candidates sites, plus sites like snopes/RCP. They are not going to be as influenced by negative attacks and tv ads.
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    b,121I think attacks and whisper campaigns make partisans feel good about their choice and only influence a small % of voters.
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    b,121An other way to put it is; thinking Obama is a Muslim or McCain is erratic, makes someone feel good about their choice. But few people will actually make their choices based on those kinds of attacks.
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    b,121after all, the collective memory of our electorate has historically proven to be less than four years.
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    b,121I disagree. I think we're seeing the end of the boomer generation's influence in this election -- thank God.
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    b,121b,121And adding on... Access to information is becoming less and less centralized and the traditional gatekeepers don't have as much power/influence. The Repubs can complain about the MSM all they want, but I haven't heard a peep about them turning against something like youtube or other socialized media (note: I am not considering blogs here). b,121b,121h,121
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    b,121We spend a ton of time here talking about Ayers, and Keating and other nonsense.
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    b,121I'm guessing that something like 60% of voters will visit both candidates sites, plus sites like snopes/RCP. They are not going to be as influenced by negative attacks and tv ads.
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    b,121I think attacks and whisper campaigns make partisans feel good about their choice and only influence a small % of voters.
    b,121
    b,121An other way to put it is; thinking Obama is a Muslim or McCain is erratic, makes someone feel good about their choice. But few people will actually make their choices based on those kinds of attacks.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121You wouldn't describe McCain, or at least his campaign for president as "erratic"? Or is it safer to assume that his choice of Palin was just incredibly cynical and ultimately reckless?
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
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    b,121after all, the collective memory of our electorate has historically proven to be less than four years.
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    b,121I disagree. I think we're seeing the end of the boomer generation's influence in this election -- thank God.
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    b,121b,121And adding on... Access to information is becoming less and less centralized and the traditional gatekeepers don't have as much power/influence. The Repubs can complain about the MSM all they want, but I haven't heard a peep about them turning against something like youtube or other socialized media (note: I am not considering blogs here). b,121b,121h,121
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    b,121We spend a ton of time here talking about Ayers, and Keating and other nonsense.
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    b,121I'm guessing that something like 60% of voters will visit both candidates sites, plus sites like snopes/RCP. They are not going to be as influenced by negative attacks and tv ads.
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    b,121I think attacks and whisper campaigns make partisans feel good about their choice and only influence a small % of voters.
    b,121
    b,121An other way to put it is; thinking Obama is a Muslim or McCain is erratic, makes someone feel good about their choice. But few people will actually make their choices based on those kinds of attacks.
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    b,121You wouldn't describe McCain, or at least his campaign for president as "erratic"? Or is it safer to assume that his choice of Palin was just incredibly cynical and ultimately reckless?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I would call it erratic, but I am highly partisan. b,121b,121If McCain were 8+ in polls and Obama down then we would be saying Palin was a brilliant choice and the Ayers attacks really work. We would also be saying that Obama needs to attack more, and he should have picked Clinton as a running mate, and why doesn't he bring up the Forrester disaster.b,121b,121People blame Gore for picking Lieberman and not responding to attacks fast enough. They say that Rove is a genius. But Gore won the popular vote and only lost Fl because of Bush's familia connections there. If the FL votes had been counted we would now be saying, those Rove style attacks never work, and Bush ran a terrible campaign.
  • barjesusbarjesus 872 Posts
    Fusk Gore and his wife Tipper. He's a loser. No Backbone.
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
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    b,121Fusk Gore and his wife Tipper. He's a loser. No Backbone.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121The point wasn't Gore is good. The point was people give campaign tactics too much credit, and voters too little.
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    Sorry, Laser I was referring to this.b,121b,121/font1
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    b,121I'd trade back Obama to have had Gore as president the last 8 years.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I, also, would have preferred a Gore presidency to the last 8 years. However, Gore and camp didn't want it enough and we all suffered for it.
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    b,121after all, the collective memory of our electorate has historically proven to be less than four years.
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    b,121I disagree. I think we're seeing the end of the boomer generation's influence in this election -- thank God.
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    b,121b,121And adding on... Access to information is becoming less and less centralized and the traditional gatekeepers don't have as much power/influence. The Repubs can complain about the MSM all they want, but I haven't heard a peep about them turning against something like youtube or other socialized media (note: I am not considering blogs here). b,121b,121h,121
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    b,121We spend a ton of time here talking about Ayers, and Keating and other nonsense.
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    b,121I'm guessing that something like 60% of voters will visit both candidates sites, plus sites like snopes/RCP. They are not going to be as influenced by negative attacks and tv ads.
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    b,121I think attacks and whisper campaigns make partisans feel good about their choice and only influence a small % of voters.
    b,121
    b,121An other way to put it is; thinking Obama is a Muslim or McCain is erratic, makes someone feel good about their choice. But few people will actually make their choices based on those kinds of attacks.
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    b,121You wouldn't describe McCain, or at least his campaign for president as "erratic"? Or is it safer to assume that his choice of Palin was just incredibly cynical and ultimately reckless?
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    b,121I would call it erratic, but I am highly partisan.
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    b,121If McCain were 8+ in polls and Obama down then we would be saying Palin was a brilliant choice and the Ayers attacks really work. We would also be saying that Obama needs to attack more, and he should have picked Clinton as a running mate, and why doesn't he bring up the Forrester disaster.
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    b,121People blame Gore for picking Lieberman and not responding to attacks fast enough. They say that Rove is a genius. But Gore won the popular vote and only lost Fl because of Bush's familia connections there. If the FL votes had been counted we would now be saying, those Rove style attacks never work, and Bush ran a terrible campaign.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121The only way Palin comes off as a "brilliant choice" is if you're willing to see the presidential election as some kind of game, in which winning at any and all cost is acceptable.b,121Unlike McCain's recent actions, I don't believe for a minute that Obama, placed at a similar disadvantage in the polls would pull a card like the Forrester.b,121McCain fully realizes that he's working his last chance at the presidency, that he's blown in drastically - whether by virtue of his own poor judgement or that of the people he's entrusted to run his campaign - which is why he's acting the way he is.b,121He's done. The only real insult is that we have to put up with three more week of this garbage before we're rid of him and Palin.
  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
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    b,121after all, the collective memory of our electorate has historically proven to be less than four years.
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    b,121b,121And adding on... Access to information is becoming less and less centralized and the traditional gatekeepers don't have as much power/influence. The Repubs can complain about the MSM all they want, but I haven't heard a peep about them turning against something like youtube or other socialized media (note: I am not considering blogs here). b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121my point was that Obama, should he win, will inherit an unbeleivably fucked country. and the American people, while they may have gained a wealth of new news sources thanks to the internet, arguably have [i]less/i1 resolve and patience than they did a generation ago.b,121b,121they will expect solutions, solutions will not be fast in coming, and the GOP will eventually exploit dissatisfaction with Obama's inability to right the wrongs that they themselves brought upon this country.b,121b,121and millions of Americans will be susceptible to their BS. just watch.
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