# Logic / Math problem

skel
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My 11 yr old son, mildly Apserger syndromic, posed the following to me at the weekend:Infinity + 1 = InfinityDeducting Infinity from both sides+ 1 = 0I need to hit him with a one line rebuttal or we'll be discussing it for a year. And there are better things to talk about.I am fast coming to the conclusion that Infinity does not exist in any meaningful way.BTW he rides hard for the Ramones and punk in general. Any help you could give, with a punk slant, would be highly appreciated by me.I am not holding out any hope on this one.....

## Comments

By the way this is a great poast.

when compared to infinity, 1 ~= 0... in fact 210938402358304580234802840329840923840293 ~= 0 when compared to infinity. this estimation happens all the time in math based sciences.

Bros.

no your totally right, but in application its best to think of infinity as some ridiculously large number. (aka my electrophysics class sucks nuts right now).

I think Banana and Envelope were a part of the algebra equation which finally convinced me that I really wasn't cut out for mathematics.

If the three times banana minus the square root of envelope equals infinity, what is the value of envelope?

Please express the answer in terms of banana.

I have a truly marvelous proof of this proposition which this margin is too narrow to contain

yay, i got a math reference joke!

Get real bro. Chuck Norris counted to infinity, twice.

Nah, that's not true. There's a whole branch of mathematics based on the differentiation and manipulation of different flavors of infinity. Take a look at the article on infinite sets that I linked to above. Or the Wikipedia page on basic infinite set theory.

INFINITY RECORDS!

Minimum bid: INFINITY + $3,000,000!

If it's undefined, thus having many "flavors", how can it be a number? How is infinity different than "a whole shitload"? How many flavors of "5" are there? What do the many flavors of infinity taste like? If I build a whole set of theories based around the premise that monkeys are actually helicopters, and they all taste a little different from each other, does that make it true?

Talk to me bro.

done!

Awesome! I nominate this as the answer to every hypothetical and/or unsolvable question ever devised.

Infinity = Everything

If you have an infinite number of jellybeans laid out in a straight line, and every 5th jellybean is red - all the others are blue - do you have more blue jellybeans than red? Of course not. What you're dealing with is frequency. You're going to encounter less red than blue but there's just as many there.

So saying "infinity plus 1" is sort of redundant because infinity is constantly adding to itself. You can add or subtract as many red jellybeans as you want, there's still an endless supply of em.

What if I were to subtract infinite bananas from your jellybeans? How many envelopes would you have then?

infinite envelopes containing the complete works of shakespeare typed by an infinite number of monkeys.

This is the level of my maths though.

Read those Peter Suber articles I posted, they're a good introduction.

and yes, I got the Fermat joke too.....

A guy at work hit me with this:

Dee Dee Ramone took an infinite amount of drugs and now he's infinitely dead.

I'm thinking this is a little too hard to hit an 11 year old with, but life's hard lessons are coming at some point, may as well be at 11.

So now I got home, told him this and he's been on the web googling images of DeeDee's, Joey's and Johnny's graves. And let me tell you, Johhny's memorial ROCKS big time.

If the story equals infinity, the nothing = 0. What does Atreyu, the childlike empress and Bastian represent?

- spidey

er...two snakes eating each other's tails?

I'm so glad my dad's not home....I'd have to explain why I'm laughing so hard at work.