Unbiased news request

skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
edited February 2008 in Strut Central
Is there ANY reliable news source these days? Or is it impossible to have unbiased news?Where are strutters getting a trusted worldwide perspective from?Please clue me up
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  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    youtube.

  • HamHam 872 Posts
    youtube comments.

  • fejmelbafejmelba 1,139 Posts
    brtn 1

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    youtube.


    hahahaha
    but no unbiased adult commentary, pro's and cons both sides
    just kids smoking crack and worse
    It's like a vox pop snapshot of the state of the world at any one time, and it isn't too pretty

  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    Is there ANY reliable news source these days? Or is it impossible to have unbiased news?

    Where are strutters getting a trusted worldwide perspective from?

    Please clue me up

    Journalism 101: There is no such thing as objective or unbiased news. No matter how hard one tries, one cannot remove one's subjectivity from the act of collecting and presenting information. A journalist's decisions during the news manufacturing process are always informed by his/her past experiences of what is "important" in a story, what the "best" sources for information are. Often the worst bias is that which informs the decisions of what to include in a story, and when to conclude the information gathering process.

    But some organizations provide more well-rounded stories than others. Try the BBC, the New York Times, and the Wall Street Journal for starters.

  • The_NonThe_Non 5,691 Posts
    BBC news on PBS for America is decent.

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    Is there ANY reliable news source these days? Or is it impossible to have unbiased news?

    Where are strutters getting a trusted worldwide perspective from?

    Please clue me up

    Journalism 101: There is no such thing as objective or unbiased news. No matter how hard one tries, one cannot remove one's subjectivity from the act of collecting and presenting information. A journalist's decisions during the news manufacturing process are always informed by his/her past experiences of what is "important" in a story, what the "best" sources for information are. Often the worst bias is that which informs the decisions of what to include in a story, and when to conclude the information gathering process.

    But some organizations provide more well-rounded stories than others. Try the BBC, the New York Times, and the Wall Street Journal for starters.

    so you saying an amalgamation of these sources more or less equals the true news picture?
    Maybe there's a space for an agency to do just that

    News by consensus

  • BBC news on PBS for America is decent.
    if you're interested in confirming your left-of-center liberal views.

  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    so you saying an amalgamation of these sources more or less equals the true news picture?
    Maybe there's a space for an agency to do just that

    News by consensus

    Not really. To get the full picture, you'd need to spend infinite lifetimes each day consuming information and sorting it all out. I'd say just pick an outlet or three you find particularly trustworthy and take what you read and hear with a grain or a tablespoon of salt. If the information is important to you, remember to ask yourself, "what is missing in this story?"

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    BBC news on PBS for America is decent.
    if you're interested in confirming your left-of-center liberal views and conspiracy theories about Princess Di's death.


  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Listen to NPR and Fox News with the understanding that the truth lies somewhere in between the two.

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    I don't rate BBC News anymore. Ever since they started their 24hour channel they've fallen into the obvious pitfalls.

    I would watch Channel4 news (which is part of th ITN network) if I was going to watch any daily news show in the Uk.

    There are other programs on the BBC that deal with current affairs, that do a better job. But these are more specialist shows that go more in-depth into a subject, and are not daily, so it gives them time to give a more considered version of events. Rather than the 'Look at this' 'Look at this' approach of 24h news.



    I had the misfortune of being in the middle of a 'news story' a year ago, and I can pretty much say that nearly every news report on the subject, was sensationalize to make good 'tv'.




  • I had the misfortune of being in the middle of a 'news story' a year ago, and I can pretty much say that nearly every news report on the subject, was sensationalize to make good 'tv'.

    Global Pedophile Ring Busted
    British Authorities Say More Than 700 Suspects Targeted, 31 Children Rescued
    LONDON, June 18, 2007

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    was that the hyperactive dj with his inappropriate stunts story?

    I just became aware of how legged over the public was with Sky reporting on the 39th premier league game

    The usual reporter refused to spin it how the station boss requested, so they got a finger-tame hack to do it.
    All to serve the money making purposes of RM's sports megalomaniac agenda.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    I find NPR to be the most reliable in terms of national news coverage.

  • The_NonThe_Non 5,691 Posts
    I'm relatively "liberal" and find NPR liberally biased.

  • jaymackjaymack 5,199 Posts



  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    I'm relatively "liberal" and find NPR liberally biased.

    Sounds like you're really a moderate who's been branded a liberal by the extreme right wing. I'm in this camp as well.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    I'm relatively "liberal" and find NPR liberally biased.

    In what way?

    They're more comprehensive than network news - which is limited by the little time they have to cram a day's worth of news in - and less opportunistic than 24 cable news - which forces stories in an effort to fill time. And I think NPR, in general, does a fairly good job of trying to present things from a balanced point of view.

    Perfect? Of course not. But they're certainly not biased in the way that, say, Fox is biased. Of course, I''m not sure any news organization can claim that.

  • newsweek is a usually evenhanded newsource

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    newsweek is a usually evenhanded newsource

    I thought they had the rep of being a bit right leaning?

    I actually like The Economist a lot - not for being unbiased per se...their free market love is off the chains...but it's a good way to get summaries on everything going on out there. I used to read The Week and I'm not mad at it but I find The Economist to be much more thorough.

  • the correct answer is:

    newsweek and the economist are both left leaning.

    Newsweek owned by WaPo.

  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    the correct answer is:

    newsweek and the economist are both left leaning.

    Newsweek owned by WaPo.

    And Fox is slightly left of center, but better than nothing.


  • newsweek is a usually evenhanded newsource

    I thought they had the rep of being a bit right leaning?

    I actually like The Economist a lot - not for being unbiased per se...their free market love is off the chains...but it's a good way to get summaries on everything going on out there. I used to read The Week and I'm not mad at it but I find The Economist to be much more thorough.

    Newsweek is like network tv news in magazine format, trying way too hard to be "evenhanded" so that all of the nuances of the stories are washed out. The Economist is great for news that you won't find in other media outlets (at least in America) and their crazy pro-business bias is pretty easy to filter out. I like the extra amount of context they provide to their stories, not just reporting the event but also the historical antecedents that caused the event or made the event possible.

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,473 Posts
    Al Jazeera, son!


  • newsweek and the economist are both left leaning.



  • jleejlee 1,539 Posts
    newsweek is a usually evenhanded newsource

    I thought they had the rep of being a bit right leaning?

    I actually like The Economist a lot - not for being unbiased per se...their free market love is off the chains...but it's a good way to get summaries on everything going on out there. I used to read The Week and I'm not mad at it but I find The Economist to be much more thorough.

    i am an open and admitted fanboy of the Economist. I also think FD & WSJ (sans opinion page) have some pretty balanced information.

    My basic (and very capitalist) feeling is if the media outlet promotes wealth accumulation or management through the information they provide, then they may be a bit more evenhanded, as it does them no good to provide biased information that could be seen as preventing there audience from maximizing wealth.

    the invisible hand of journalism perhaps?

  • i've been checking RCP regularly over the last couple of months

    Washington Journal on CSPAN is top notch
    unfortunately i usually don't have time to watch it
    but certainly check CSPAN channels, most of the original programming is excellent

  • The_NonThe_Non 5,691 Posts
    I'm relatively "liberal" and find NPR liberally biased.

    In what way?

    They're more comprehensive than network news - which is limited by the little time they have to cram a day's worth of news in - and less opportunistic than 24 cable news - which forces stories in an effort to fill time. And I think NPR, in general, does a fairly good job of trying to present things from a balanced point of view.

    Perfect? Of course not. But they're certainly not biased in the way that, say, Fox is biased. Of course, I''m not sure any news organization can claim that.

    They aren't as balanced as you proclaim them to be. And when news gets presented from a strict altruistic perspective, it wears on me. They're not as biased as Fox, but they aren't a paragon of virtue either.
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