the fuck? school shooting related
The_Hook_Up
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2 school shootings in Memphis in a week and now this in Illinois:http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/14/university.shooting/index.html
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This is also coming on the heels of that dude who shot up a Lane Bryant store somewhere south of Chicago and killed like 5 people.
Shit's getting real in the suburban streets. who knew? I want to know what reason this NIU clown had for bugging out. Maybe I don't, though. It's never going to justify what he did.
So they shouldn't report on them?
I was puzzling over a response that would argue that the media should be less sensational, and report the facts, but not publish big photos and profiles of the shooters. But honestly, I think the media should be free to do whatever the hell it wants so long as news outlets publish in good faith what they think is true. Other social forces including social alienation, a culture of violence, and easy access to guns seem a lot more important, and hold the potential of meaningful change. Maybe censoring the media would take away some of the motivation that fuels a school shooter, but the cost of censoring the press isn't worth it.
Do you think media coverage encourages these types of events? Do you think it actually inspires people? I don't mean encourages in the way they report it, like advocating it, but that it gives visual cues and examples for other sick people to follow.
I don't really know what to think. I can't see any of these articles inspiring someone who is not already at that point mentally (like inspiring someone to do something like this when they'd never thought of it previously), but maybe if someone is already at breaking point they might get a nudge of inspiration.
There is no way not to report on this stuff. I think most people are fascinated by murderers and criminals, so that's why everything is always sensationalized.
I respect where you're question is coming from and personally, I think there's no simple answer. I researched rampage shootings back in 2006 - this was right after that horrific Amish school shooting but before Virginia Tech - and one of the more compelling arguments I came across basically explained that regardless of the mental health of the shooter, one of the things that he needed to possess was a mental script that gun violence is a way to solve problems - being bullied, having one's masculinity challenged, whatever.
One could certainly suggest that media coverage of these shootings contributes to that script where gun violence becomes seen as a solution. However, the general equation of "gun violence = permissable, even preferable" is something that's broadcast in myriad forms beyond just the news media: it's in our movies, our music, our t.v., our video games, etc. Even if media outlets decided not to report on these shootings, there'd still be more than ample ways for youth to become familiar with gun violence.
Certain kids get programmed at an early age and basically become sleepers...just like our government openly describes the "sleeper" terrorist threat. And they know full well all about it...because they trained/programmed both the terrorists and these mass murdering children. Where the media comes into play is that it typically issues the signal to awaken the sleepers to live out the violent scripts that have been embedded in the recesses of their minds.
Are you joking or quoting?
Amazing how you can come up with this shit but was baffled by a simple math trick.
Do tell, why would the government want kids in a college in Dekalb, Ill. killed?
Do your homework on Manchurian Candidates, which have been around at least since World War II.
Do your homework on Columbine.
Then try to wake up out of your own sleep.
And Rock, your stones are like feathers.
Do tell, why would the government want kids in a college in Dekalb, Ill. killed?
To promote their gun control agenda??
Because they can??
So it's only in Dekalb, Ill that we've suffered through a school shooting this past week?
Think bigger.
No...there have been 4 school shootings this week.
And 18 drive-bys.
You think all those bloods and crips were programmed by "the man"??
More homework for you to do I guess before you believe that...yes, "inner city gangs" have been armed and set up with overseas drug connections by the CIA.
Gary Webb (RIP)- related.
our salvation lies not in the hands of marshall law- you'll find that each teenage school shooting perp suffered epileptic seizures while watching the pokemon episode "Electric Soldier Porygon" in the mid 90s.
Does the Boogie Man live under your bed or in your closet??
You still haven't explained why, be explicit or stop with your cryptic pontifications..
No...we're supposed to 'do our homework"
I'm done with mine.... and what I've learned is the dude's a nut.
Most conspiracy theorists just focus on one conspiracy....Harvey's got 100's of them.
haha!
What I do know is that prescribed meds are usually involved...implying that there have indeed been "specialists" working on the minds of said subjects.
And video games or not, I don't believe that any person has the gumption to be so randomly cold blooded without first being pushed into it by some sort of externally-derived persuasion.
I fully realize that it's pointless to talk to some of you about such topics as you seem to think that we live in a world where 100% of everything just happens by chance....a world where the CIA doesn't secretly meddle into the affairs of foreign nations, where American presidential elections aren't rigged, where secret societies are just for social events and their widely-published agendas are just for jokes, where surveillance by biometrics isn't already knocking on your skull, where US bombs don't just drop under false pretenses, and most importantly where you smug scumbags aren't benefitting from just about all of the stuff you make careers out of denying.
But then there are those who do have the wherewithall to think outside of the box, which is pretty much the only way to go at this point in time.
You think I'm nuts, fine. Doesn't really faze me. But I've yet to hear any of you come up with any of the reasons that you expect me to provide (killers who have already killed themselves are striving for attention???), so I'm not sure where your pompous stance on this shit is coming from.
Oh yeah, y'all are pompous about everything...that's right, I almost forgot.
It probably does, but i think the glorification of violence and the cultural acceptance of firearms has more to do with it.
It's your right to believe whatever the hell you want....but coming here constantly trying to promote these ideas is no different than a Born-Again Christian coming here trying to get us all to see the light and repent.
ABSOLUTELY.