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PANDORA closed to UK

Mr_Lee_PHDMr_Lee_PHD 2,042 Posts
edited January 2008 in Strut Central
Man!!Anyone else pissed about this?I have been trying for hours to find an anonymous proxy to get me in, but all I'm getting so far is a technical difficulties error when Pandora has loaded half way.Anyone found a way in from the UK?Paece.Lee.

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  • djsheepdjsheep 3,620 Posts
    what is pandora?
  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S. We will continue to work diligently to realize the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative.
  • djsheepdjsheep 3,620 Posts
    We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S. We will continue to work diligently to realize the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative.

    ahem...

    what is it ?

    is it a radio station or something?
  • Mr_Lee_PHDMr_Lee_PHD 2,042 Posts
    Pandora is an automated music recommendation and Internet radio service created by The Music Genome Project. Users enter a song or artist that they enjoy, and the service responds by playing selections that are musically similar. Users provide feedback on the individual song choices ??? approval or disapproval ??? which Pandora takes into account for future selections.

    I was loving it, except now they've been forced to pull the plug to everywhere but the US.

  • djsheepdjsheep 3,620 Posts
    is it the same as that last.fm place??

    b
  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    is it the same as that last.fm place??

    b

    Never used it B, sounds kinda interesting though.


    The Music Genome Project??

    On January 6, 2000 a group of musicians and music-loving technologists came together with the idea of creating the most comprehensive analysis of music ever.

    Together we set out to capture the essence of music at the most fundamental level. We ended up assembling literally hundreds of musical attributes or "genes" into a very large Music Genome. Taken together these genes capture the unique and magical musical identity of a song - everything from melody, harmony and rhythm, to instrumentation, orchestration, arrangement, lyrics, and of course the rich world of singing and vocal harmony. It's not about what a band looks like, or what genre they supposedly belong to, or about who buys their records - it's about what each individual song sounds like.

    Since we started back in 2000, we've carefully listened to the songs of tens of thousands of different artists - ranging from popular to obscure - and analyzed the musical qualities of each song one attribute at a time. This work continues each and every day as we endeavor to include all the great new stuff coming out of studios, clubs and garages around the world.

    It has been quite an adventure, you could say a little crazy - but now that we've created this extraordinary collection of music analysis, we think we can help be your guide as you explore your favorite parts of the music universe.

    We hope you enjoy the journey.

    Tim Westergren
    Founder
    The Music Genome Project


    If a liitle pretentious.
  • UnherdUnherd 1,880 Posts
    Its like personalized radio stations, you can type something like 'Grant Green', it'll prob play a song or two by him, then a similar artist (Jimmy Smith), and it will basically keep that similar vibe going pretty accurately due to their relatively small library of music classified by shit like "classic jazz roots, block cord playing, electric guitar solo, light drumming, etc..."

    Actually works pretty well, but nothing too obscure, and each "station" you create can get played out pretty quick, like i heard songs repeat after an hour or two...

    Someones gotta be able to figure out a way around this? NAGL for non-us strutters...
  • nzshadownzshadow 5,526 Posts
    lastfm Frickin' dominates my workdays.

    i wholeheartedly and all that.
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    Its like personalized radio stations, you can type something like 'Grant Green', it'll prob play a song or two by him, then a similar artist (Jimmy Smith), and it will basically keep that similar vibe going pretty accurately due to their relatively small library of music classified by shit like "classic jazz roots, block cord playing, electric guitar solo, light drumming, etc..."

    Actually works pretty well, but nothing too obscure, and each "station" you create can get played out pretty quick, like i heard songs repeat after an hour or two...

    It does get more obscure for some genres, its not like its all charted records or anything. I've learned about a few artists I didn't know of otherwise.

    You can always hit the 'zzzzz' button if you want it to stop playing certain cuts.
  • JuniorJunior 4,853 Posts
    I'm pretty gutted about this - it was a favourite post pub website to avoid the normal arguments over what music to play and did occasionally throw up some real gems.
  • Rich45sRich45s 327 Posts
    While its a shame for people who used it. The fact is they wouldn't pay a fair rate to labels and artists for using their music



    PPL RESPONSE TO PANDORA???S DECISION TO CLOSE SERVICE IN THE UK



    London ??? January 9, 2007. A PPL spokesperson said, ???PPL has sought to agree a reasonable basis for licensing Pandora???s service in the UK balancing the value of the rights PPL represents against the commercial pressures of the service provider and sincerely regrets Pandora???s decision to terminate its UK service rather than take up the trial licence on offer.???

    ???In the course of 2007 two independent reviews as to the appropriate level of licensing fees for the use of music on internet radio services were conducted ??? one by the UK Copyright Tribunal and one in the US by the US Copyright Royalty Board. These reviews were exhaustive, and had access to detailed confidential financial information from the providers of internet radio services. Whilst neither review has a direct application to the fees chargeable by PPL (the first applying to the rights of authors, composers and publishers and the second applying to streaming of sound recordings in the US), they are clearly relevant to the appropriate level of fees to be charged for the rights licensed by PPL.???


    About PPL in regard to streamed internet radio services:

    PPL offers a ???one-stop??? licensing facility on behalf of its performer and record company members for interactive and non-interactive internet radio services streamed in the UK. The licence fees it charges under such licences are approved by the PPL Board which includes representatives from major and independent record labels and the performer community.


    PPL???s licence fees for internet radio are based on a rate-per-track-per-stream model whereby every time one user listens to one sound recording transmitted by the service, the rate is applied and the licence fee accumulates. This matches the licence fee model determined by the US Copyright Royalty Board, and equates to the ???track minima??? determined by the UK Copyright Tribunal. PPL???s licence fees for non-interactive internet radio in 2008 are based on a rate of 0.0561 pence per track per stream. This is below the 2008 rate determined by the US Copyright Board and 2% higher than the equivalent minima determined by the UK Copyright Tribunal.

    Pandora offers a customised internet radio service whereby the listener is able to exercise a degree of influence and control over the music content such that the listener enjoys a unique service customised to his or her taste. Given the new nature of such a service, in 2007 PPL proposed a non-precedential licence fee of 0.0773 pence (one and a half times the PPL 2006 non-interactive internet radio rate) for an initial 12 month trial licence. This rate proposal remains available today and has been taken up by other similar services. This rate is lower than the equivalent minima determined by the UK Copyright Tribunal.

    As noted above, given that PPL???s proposals are in line with those determined independently by the UK Copyright Tribunal, as well as being considerably lower than those determined by the US Copyright Board for 2009 onwards, PPL re-iterates its disappointment in regards to Pandora???s withdrawal from the UK market-place at a time when other similar services are establishing themselves.



    Saying all that though Pandora seems to have set up http://globalpandora.com/ which UK bods can use.
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