Fortune (detroit) Labels Question
SoulOnIce
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YoI know Fortune releases can be hard to date, because they kept pressing records and releasing them in the OG sleevesthrough the 60's, 70's into the 80's ... my question is,does anyone know when a light blue (LP) label would be from?Basically, I came across a white whale on this label, and wantto purchase badly, but don't want to drop real $$$ on a 70'sre-press, even though the re-press of this LP is almost as rareas the OG ... BSN mentions purple and yellow labels, but notblue ... the vinyl was *kinda* heavy but not super thick, and asthis was a 1963 release, I am skeptical - still, the 70's pressesof Nolan Diablo records that I have are on *really* thin vinyl andhave crappy blurry purple labels ... any ideas?
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what lp are you eye-ing?
i have two fortune records with blue labels - the 45 is an OG from the fifties, the lp is an '80s repressing, so itd likely be best to go by how thick the vinyl is, or some other signifier like font design
Nathaniel Mayer, "Going Back To..."
I have sweated this album for YEARS.
I may buy it no matter what, but it's not
in the bargain bin, so I'd like to know
what pressing I'm getting, if I can ...
did you sniff it?
whats it smell like?
Like it was pressed between 1963 and 1980
you really never see the nathaniel lps, he may have been a little too raw for those doo wopper guys - though they liked the diablos really well & that why all the represses on their 2 lps.
He only had one Fortune album to begin with.
...plus all those later posthumous collections.
I remember in the eighties when Fortune started cranking out newer reissues of older recordings (like the Andre Williams Jail Bait LP). The only problem was, in most places those albums were retailing for $10. That was a lot of money by 1986 dollars - most LP's back then for $8.99 at the most. One record store owner I talked to at the time said he wasn't buying any more for the store because of this.
Hate to sound like Grandpa Vinyl, but that was the good thing about that period - here it was the MTV era, but even at that late date there'd always be some fairly inactive 1950's label like Fortune or Dooto who were still in business at the old address and still had their classic wax in print for the asking. The times had passed them by, but you could still get a Nolan Strong LP if you knew where to look. Sure, it fucked things up for the collectors who wanted OG and OG only, but hey, most small labels never intentionally made a collector's item, they wanted to sell what they had just as bad as the majors.
wrong
LP-8013 NATHANIEL MAYER and the TWILIGHTS VILLAGE OF LOVE 1963
LP-8014 NATHANIEL MAYER and the TWILIGHTS (GOING BACK TO THE) VILLAGE OF LOVE 1963
Yeah, I was gonna say - there are at least catalog numbers for
2 different albums ... I've never seen the first, but I have to
assume it exists ... I'd never seen EITHER until today, that's why
I'm so psyched ... and curious ...
But those are two consecutive numbers for albums with similar titles that came out that same year...I'm not saying anybody's wrong, but given the circumstances, I wonder if they just retitled the thing and put it out again with a new number? 'Cause that looks pretty shady.
credit, so it was much easier to take. It definitely
seems too thin to be a 1963 OG, although one of
the only references I could find to the subject
online had some encouraging news (too bad the link
to the forum discussion is dead):
So that's pretty encouraging, especially since I have a couple of
the 70's Nolan Strong's and they are MUCH shittier pressings than
this. The cover is definitely OG, the label has a deep groove, and
the pressing is quality.
Best of ALL, the sound quality is really high! I mean, it's a
Fortune record, so of course the recording quality is still
absurd, with the levels going up and down and one mic for the whole
room, etc - but the sound quality of the pressing DESTROYS those
Diablo re-pops, and even sounds much better than the CD I have of
all this material!
My best guess is that it's a second press, circa 1966, maybe released
when "I Want Love and Affection" was making some noise ... it would be
great if someone had a confirmed OG to compare. Regardless, I am psyched
to have this LP - a real sweet addition to the collection ... I keep
looking over at the cover ...
The 45s are more scatter-shot. I have a tealish-labeled pressing of Eddie Kirk's "The Grunt" that's an OG. and several pink-labeled Strong/Diablos numbers that I considered OG, as well.