DEEP CRATES (MOVIE RELATED)
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Anyone ever peep this film out? What's the verdict?Sucks Netflix doesn't carry it in its distrobution, or else I would of copped it.
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K.
i also agree its not as artistic in the cinematography as i would like, but nothings perfect...
There is 0 direction. It's like watching 80's porn comp's. Random scenes thrown together, but instead of a money shot you have someone talking about a record.
Whaddya mean "instead"....
i think beatdawg's documentary was dope. too much artistic license in a documentary is against the point of doing one. i walked away from the viewing knowing lots of things i never knew before about new york hip hop digging culture. hearing finesse talk about making beats, finding records, watching diamond d sweat bullets.... haven't seen that anywhere else. the madlib/pb wolf/ egon part was the only thing about it that was weak. because they didn't really kick any knowledge or tell stories. just talked about smoking "kill". who gives a shit.
props to beatdawg for getting that shit on video. needed to be a little longer imo.
K.
Yes, they might - perhaps he had his reasons for not wanting to or he could not afford the rights? I don't want to speak for him...
Are you making fun of me? Ironwill calls me this and it hurts my feelings. A lot...a lot a lot.
In my mind, it would be interesting to visit with some of those guys and have them go through their collections (show us the records!!) and talk about stories involving the record. Someone posted a clip of Questlove on here not too long ago doing just that...I found that a lot more interesting. Beatdawg, perhaps something to keep in mind for the sequel...
Not making fun. Never knew Will called you that. North as in Richmond Hill?
K.
joking about being hurt!
north as in i don't know where! parkdale?
Diamond is the man. Play his scenes at X4, the shit is GREAT.
(BTW, they rocked his "That's That Sh*t" on the drivetime mix yesterday here in Philly... I was almost in tears, that sh*t sounded so good to hear on the radio in 2005.)
I'm not hating, I'm judging it as a documentary. If I put it up against Children Unknown or something like Dogtown and Z-Boyz it pales in comparison. He didn't put out a CD or LP, he put out a DVD. I understand some people will be biased because it deals with something everyone on Soulstrut has a passion for, and that's "diggin". I try my best to avoid being "Biased". That being the case I put it up against DVD's and "documentaries". A documentary usually makes a point. This doesn't. All this was is someone recording conversations. It doesn't mean it doesn't offer insight into the personal lives of some producers, and it doesn't mean he didn't put in a good effort. I applaud Beat Dogg for trying hard, but that doesn't mean it results in something that I found to be powerful. What I have a problem with is the documentary doesn't make any point other than "here are some random stories". If that's what you want from it, hell all the power to you. Personally (and it doesn't make me any better or worse than anyone) I've heard enough stories to the point I don't need to "watch" more.
Of course, that's me...doesn't mean others will agree.
Hit the PM if you are intrested...
HAHAHAHAHA at one time I thought he had a booger comin out but I may have just got flash backs of Shorty on the De La Satarday's video, anyone ever catch that? I don't thing it was a nose ring....
K.
i know where you're coming from, it isn't an award winning production. in no way would this thing ever get commercial distribution or picked up by any big studio or whatever. the film is totally underground, and ho-made. with that in mind, i'm not trying to compare this to a film that would run at a major (or even indy) movie house. to me it is valuable because it does drop knowledge, years, dates, names, history. and it is one of the only videos i have ever seen which has had any lengthy discussions on digging('scratch' has the shadow scene, thats it). let alone the fact that these individuals were among the first big new york producers to be fantatical about rare records, which ended up changing beats, prices, everything. that generation established alot of the grails that kids on this page are after to this day. and still haven't found. comparing this documentary to earlier films about the punk scene in late 70's usa or england, it doesn't really look that bad. especially considering that beat digging is a much much smaller niche than punk music.
i watched it twice.
are those AlGarth's crates? I know he got a sealed copy for me.
Definitely. Scratch is well-made to translate the whole culture to anyone who watches it.... even if they're a complete outsider.
Thats the hallmark of a good documentary... anyone can put it on and come away with a good understanding or at least a foundation for what its about.
I've heard a lot of stories of people wanting to be DJs through watching Scratch.
Deep Crates is still good, but only from a digger's point of view.
That beat aint really that good...
marcofunk? (NSB)
K>
the part that cracked me up was when i saw laylo, who sold me some dope records at this past spring's record show in jersey. he isn't lying, he has some dope drum breaks...just my $.02. props to beatdawg for getting it out there as well.
-- its most definately a labor of love. Making high quality documantaries cost serious quid. That being said, I thought that UK version (starring the same basic cast) was a little better. I like Jeremy, I think he is a cool dood that did a project that is pertinent to most diggers. I would like to see a full unedited conversation about records with Beni B, he seems like he has an interesting perspective on the whole thing.