If you're serious about the "ethical" questions involved here, I would say that as far as cigarette advertising is concerned, this is fairly ethical. The target audience seems to me to be people who are over 21, like to party, and are already fairly likely to smoke already. It seems to me to be more of a brand equity campaign whose ultimate goal is probably to convince people who already smoke to holler at some Camels.
Needless to say, this is not a party I would attend.
~~~[/b]Stopping smoking was the hardest thing I've ever done. I remember smoking on my way home from visiting my grandfather who was dying of lung cancer and passing the cemetery where my grandmother is buried--who died from emphysema--and not giving a fuck about having the same fate.~~~[/b]
EDIT: Oh shit, I forgot to put ~[/b]'s around my post.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
How can we too become glammed up?
I have a strong feeling it only requires buying a few certain things and then turning our backs on anyone who doesn't also own those same select items.
Also, Roxy's hands look more like those of Betty Crocker than those of Q-Bert.
I guess Vegas makes sense for this kind of promotion as its probably one of the last places in the US you can still smoke (cigarettes) inside the club, inside the hotel, and probably inside the elevator on the way up to your glam suite.
people who like this kind of stuff should move to richmond. phillip morris will hire young people for marketing jobs starting at 70K all day.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
Accepting your role as a tool of credibility for the Tobacco industry seems like a "100% selling your soul" type of moment.
I'm just curious if people are in the thought school of "get that money" or "you're selling your soul".
Hate to sound like an old man, but it doesn't seem like the Dare generation ever learned what it means to sell or not sell out. And now we're witnessing them sell out in droves...if signing that damned Dare pact back when they were in 8th grade wasn't enough.
people who like this kind of stuff should move to richmond. phillip morris will hire young people for marketing jobs starting at 70K all day.
Damn. That's the sort of thing that tests my commitment to the non-profit world. $70G goes a long way, especially, I imagine, in a place like Virginia.
Is that Will Self at top right? He's the coolest smoker they could find? Or are they all paid Camel models?
I turned down work with Hennessy and I'm not rich. These fuckers can show a bit of backbone. But I doubt they have much else going for them besides being able to stay up late.
I was gonna say, you don't have to do shit like this if you have a rep based on talent. If you have a rep based on advertising, I suppose there's not an ad you'll turn down.
forget the cigarretes, is it ethical for these 3 to headline, let alone receive the moniker "world renowned djs"?
aren't these people embarrased to consistently headline events where the warm-up dj is much, much better? i dont doubt that these djs cant rock a party with their crowds, and ive seen clips of how much "energy" aoki has. regardless, its still a case of the emperors new clothes when you are talking about headlining an event in vegas...or anywhere for that matter. there are soo many dope djs out there. what a waste.
i dunno, he looks a bit younger / more like a male model then ol' Will Self. I can't really imagine him being into celebrity parties in Vegas anyway. (well not anymore)
$70G goes a long way, especially, I imagine, in a place like Virginia.
Maybe in Richmond, but not in NOVA.
Also, if you are into advertising/marketing and keeping some of your soul, the Martin Agency just got a whopping Walmart deal.
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
world renowned DJs?
That's a very broad and generous definition of the term "world-renowned". If, for example, Danny Masterson is world renowned for anything, I wouldn't expect it to be DJing. I'm not one to ride for the Tiestos, Paul Oakenfolds and Ferry Corstens of this world, but those fools are what I'd call world-renowned, by which I mean "can fill a football stadium in about twenty five different countries".
if you are into advertising/marketing and keeping some of your soul, the Martin Agency just got a whopping Walmart deal.
No, I'd like to keep the whole thing. It's just the money that occasionally gives me cause to reflect on my work. But in the end, I sleep well at night, nahmean?
Am i crazy or is that james gandolfini aka tony soprano in the bottom left corner?!? I know he rocks that caveman look when he's not shooting anything.
Am i crazy or is that james gandolfini aka tony soprano in the bottom left corner?!? I know he rocks that caveman look when he's not shooting anything.
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Needless to say, this is not a party I would attend.
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And this whole time, I thought people were throwing around the name "DJ Mompants" as a joke. I guess it still is one, but...
EDIT: Oh shit, I forgot to put ~[/b]'s around my post.
I have a strong feeling it only requires buying a few certain things and then turning our backs on anyone who doesn't also own those same select items.
Also, Roxy's hands look more like those of Betty Crocker than those of Q-Bert.
I'm just curious if people are in the thought school of "get that money" or "you're selling your soul".
Do these "World Renowned DJ's" even smoke ciggs? I would say if they don't it makes this even worse than it already is.
Hate to sound like an old man, but it doesn't seem like the Dare generation ever learned what it means to sell or not sell out. And now we're witnessing them sell out in droves...if signing that damned Dare pact back when they were in 8th grade wasn't enough.
while my previous post alludes to what you said, i think you you're setting up a false dichotomy.
Damn. That's the sort of thing that tests my commitment to the non-profit world. $70G goes a long way, especially, I imagine, in a place like Virginia.
I turned down work with Hennessy and I'm not rich. These fuckers can show a bit of backbone. But I doubt they have much else going for them besides being able to stay up late.
aren't these people embarrased to consistently headline events where the warm-up dj is much, much better? i dont doubt that these djs cant rock a party with their crowds, and ive seen clips of how much "energy" aoki has. regardless, its still a case of the emperors new clothes when you are talking about headlining an event in vegas...or anywhere for that matter. there are soo many dope djs out there. what a waste.
i'm really looking forward to reading this thread again.
i dunno, he looks a bit younger / more like a male model then ol' Will Self. I can't really imagine him being into celebrity parties in Vegas anyway. (well not anymore)
I like the pictures of people just holding up packs of cigarettes. I can imagine the conversation:
"Hi, do you smoke?"
"No"
"then just hold up this pack of cigarettes and make your best pouty face"
Maybe in Richmond, but not in NOVA.
Also, if you are into advertising/marketing and keeping some of your soul, the Martin Agency just got a whopping Walmart deal.
That's a very broad and generous definition of the term "world-renowned". If, for example, Danny Masterson is world renowned for anything, I wouldn't expect it to be DJing. I'm not one to ride for the Tiestos, Paul Oakenfolds and Ferry Corstens of this world, but those fools are what I'd call world-renowned, by which I mean "can fill a football stadium in about twenty five different countries".
and New York
No, I'd like to keep the whole thing.
mompants dude, try and keep up....