Xcel on WaxPoetics.com

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http://waxpoetics.com/content/?article=xcelChief Xcel: Core Collector"I get high from collecting and creating," so says Xavier Mosley, better known as Chief Xcel. By collecting, he's referring to his 20,000 records; by creating, he's referring to his production on Blackalicious's revered albums.In addition to his album credits, Xcel also heads Quannum Projects, an independent label he jointly created in the early '90s alongside Jeff Chang, DJ Shadow, Lateef the Truth Speaker, Lyrics Born, and Gift of Gab. But long before establishing himself as a label executive and premier producer, Xavier Mosley was ??? and still is ??? an avid record collector.Xcel talks about inheriting his father's records, his very first record purchase, how digging has affected his production, and some of his favorite digging spots across America. The second component of the interview finds Mosley listing his most important records, many of which have directly influenced his own body of work.Part 1: On Record CollectingSo you really have 20,000 records?No, I probably have a lot more than that. [laughs] When I got to about 20,000 is when I stopped counting.What made you want to start collecting?Nothing really made me do it. It more or less just happened. Some of my favorite and important records I was lucky enough to inherit from my father's collection. He had a ton of records and that was, like, my starting point. Some of his records I never listened to at first, but years later I rediscovered them and realized what a great inheritance his collection was.Do you remember the first record you bought?Yeah, I remember, surprisingly. [laughs] The first record I bought was Parliament-Funkadelic's Uncle Jam Wants You.You still go digging often?Yeah, I dig constantly. It's a trip, though, because I dig a lot more away from home than I do at home. When we're on the road ten months out of the year, there's more time to do so.Any memorable spots you've dug at while on the road?North Hampton, Massachusetts, is pretty dope. Also, whenever I'm in Pittsburgh, I go wild, because it's one of the few places left that's like the Holy Grail for me. When I was working on Blazing Arrow, the majority of stuff I used was lifted from Pittsburgh. Those two spots have to be my favorites ??? I've had so many important finds there.How has searching and listening to records effected your own production?I'm always technically minded, so I'm always listening to the aesthetic of how things are put together. I guess, that's a direct result of me doing what I do. When I'm listening to music, I'm listening for the love of it. But I'm also listening to learn from, or, to be inspired by it as well.Whether listening to a record in your collection or to a beat you've made, what's the most important aspect you listen for?The feel is everything. I've seen people with dope record collections but can't make a beat to save their life. You have to have a feel and an ear, because if it don't feel right, it isn't right. You can find the best break in the world, but if you can't hear and visualize how it can be used, then it's all for nothing.Who has produced some of your favorite records?Wow, there are so many. David Axelrod, Leon Ware, the Bomb Squad, Ant Banks, Dre, Pete Rock, Larry Smith, Lincoln Olivetti. In particular, Olivetti is a real important producer, because I think he's amazing. He did a lot of Brazilian funk and samba in the '70s. His whole approach to the rhythm was just really dope and just inspires me.What has record collecting done for you as a producer?It's the core of what I do. All these years, I've made beats that reflected all these sounds and musical genres that have impacted me, and these records are like my musical vocabulary. They're like the paint that I use to paint with ??? everything revolves around these records.Part 2: On Important RecordsMagnum Fully Loaded (Phoenix) 1974 This is a record I came up on in '90, '91. It was another one that was inherited from my father. The soul in that record is so heavy. It would later be reissued, much to my dismay, but it is a classic. We actually used it for our Blackalicious track, "Deep in the Jungle." I simply love this record.De La Soul 3 Feet High and Rising (Tommy Boy) 1989 I was in the tenth grade when this record came out. This record really showed me what the world of sampling could be. Prince Paul showed me that there are no limits to producing. I mean, I was lucky to have inherited quite a few records from my dad's collection, but I never really used them. This album made me realize that even my dad's records were fair game. So from that, I was introduced to the Turtles, Steely Dan, and other records that I might have never looked at as prospective samples.Aretha Franklin Young, Gifted and Black (Atlantic) 1972 Arif Mardin is my all-time favorite arranger, and the song "Young, Gifted and Black" itself is amazing. I mean, Nina Simone did the original, but his interpretation, and what he did with it, was just crazy. It starts off as a gospel piece really, and the piano progression on it is awesome. It's always been another one of those records that have been a blueprint for my production. Certain records to me I consider "Producer 101" records, and this is definitely one of them.Public Enemy It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back (Def Jam) 1988Wow. My initial reaction to this record was just that ??? "wow." The Shocklee Brothers, Eric Sadler, and Chuck D just threw everything in the pot and made this wall of confusion that was organized at the same time. It was so intense. 3 Feet High and Rising showed me the possibility of sampling and Public Enemy was a realization of that possibility. They really just stretched my head out.John Coltrane A Love Supreme (Impulse) 1965 This is one of my all-time favorite records. I've always been a fan of records that tell a story. And, to me, this record is a journey from beginning to end. It's almost like CliffsNotes of somebody's life and the lessons that they've learned. This is one of the greatest records ever made, in my humble opinion. It's the kind of record that sticks with you.Main Source Breaking Atoms (Wild Pitch) 1991The first time I heard this record, it moved me to my core. By that time, I had reached a point where digging wasn't something I took for granted ??? it had become a sport. And that was right around the time I met Lyrics Born and Shadow, and the three of us were going through the same phase at the same time. When I heard how Large Pro hooked up certain sounds for that record, or how he used "Baby Don't Cry" for "Looking at the Front Door," it made me look more intensely into the world of sampling. I love this record.Fela Kuti Kalakuta Show (Wrasse) 1976When I first got introduced to Fela, my mind was just blown! Here was this dude who would make records with one single groove that would last for eighteen minutes! His ability to just captivate you in that groove was just amazing to me. When I did the tribute album, I had to listen to a lot of his records. And the thing is, most of his songs are at least ten minutes long ??? at least. There is so much I can say about Fela's records. They're brilliant. I mean, I love almost all his records, but Kalakuta Show impacted me the most. It's simply an amazing record! Fela is an astonishing musician. This record continues to blow me away.

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  • gravelheadwrapgravelheadwrap corn 948 Posts
    cool cool

    i always liked his production on a lot of things, real soulful.

  • spelunkspelunk 3,400 Posts
    His production on Nia is crazy dope, that record is a burner beginning to end.

  • I am sceptical to the 20 000 claim. I can't count how many times people estimate WAAAAAY over, and you go to their house, and it's not even close.

    "I have 4000 records at home."

    "cool, well, let me know when I can come over"

    go over, not even 2 000.


    I have 7 or 8 ooo---------go over, barely breaking 2 000.

    not like I really care. why did I even post this? whatevs, I'm sure dude knows how many records he has. haha shiiit----need to lay off the cynicism

  • I am sceptical to the 20 000 claim. I can't count how many times people estimate WAAAAAY over, and you go to their house, and it's not even close.

    "I have 4000 records at home."

    "cool, well, let me know when I can come over"

    go over, not even 2 000.


    I have 7 or 8 ooo---------go over, barely breaking 2 000.

    not like I really care. why did I even post this? whatevs, I'm sure dude knows how many records he has. haha shiiit----need to lay off the cynicism

    Not that it matters but X has a LOT of records. I'm not good at estimating but its gotta be over 20K.

  • I am sceptical to the 20 000 claim. I can't count how many times people estimate WAAAAAY over, and you go to their house, and it's not even close.

    "I have 4000 records at home."

    "cool, well, let me know when I can come over"

    go over, not even 2 000.


    I have 7 or 8 ooo---------go over, barely breaking 2 000.

    not like I really care. why did I even post this? whatevs, I'm sure dude knows how many records he has. haha shiiit----need to lay off the cynicism

    Not that it matters but X has a LOT of records. I'm not good at estimating but its gotta be over 20K.

    well, there ya have it
    clearly, the man's involvement in hip-hop is invaluable, and many breaks/records get played and sought simply because he's sampled them.

  • Vertically and snugly shelved, 3000 LPs roughly take up a space 7 feet high and 8 feet wide.
    Doing the exponential math, a 20,000 piece collection would take up a wall that was around 42 feet high and 48 feet wide.
    Square footage is the easiest way to gauge a big collection.

    In my experience, anytime a person sees more than 5,000 LPs, shit instantly becomes tens of thousands.
    Even solid guys I know grossly overestimate the size of their collections.
    Maybe Xavier has this many, but you need a fairly big place to store more than 10,000 records.

  • Vertically and snugly shelved, 3000 LPs roughly take up a space 7 feet high and 8 feet wide.
    Doing the exponential math, a 20,000 piece collection would take up a wall that was around 42 feet high and 48 feet wide.
    Square footage is the easiest way to gauge a big collection.

    In my experience, anytime a person sees more than 5,000 LPs, shit instantly becomes tens of thousands.
    Even solid guys I know grossly overestimate the size of their collections.
    Maybe Xavier has this many, but you need a fairly big place to store more than 10,000 records.

    Dante, your mind is amazing, but your calculation is wrong.

    7ft. high, and 48ft. wide would yield: 18 000 lp's at the (3000lp's= 7 x 8ft.)

    42 ft. high, and 8ft. wide would yield: 18 000 lp's at the (3000lp's= 7 x 8ft.)

    so, a Hypothetical wall of records at 42 ft. high x 48 ft. wide = 108 000 lp's.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Vertically and snugly shelved, 3000 LPs roughly take up a space 7 feet high and 8 feet wide.
    Doing the exponential math, a 20,000 piece collection would take up a wall that was around 42 feet high and 48 feet wide.
    Square footage is the easiest way to gauge a big collection.

    In my experience, anytime a person sees more than 5,000 LPs, shit instantly becomes tens of thousands.
    Even solid guys I know grossly overestimate the size of their collections.
    Maybe Xavier has this many, but you need a fairly big place to store more than 10,000 records.

    Dante, your mind is amazing, but your calculation is wrong.

    7ft. high, and 48ft. wide would yield: 18 000 lp's at the (3000lp's= 7 x 8ft.)

    42 ft. high, and 8ft. wide would yield: 18 000 lp's at the (3000lp's= 7 x 8ft.)

    so, a Hypothetical wall of records at 42 ft. high x 48 ft. wide = 108 000 lp's.

    ...thus answering the question: what's today's mathematics?

  • Vertically and snugly shelved, 3000 LPs roughly take up a space 7 feet high and 8 feet wide.
    Doing the exponential math, a 20,000 piece collection would take up a wall that was around 42 feet high and 48 feet wide.
    Square footage is the easiest way to gauge a big collection.

    In my experience, anytime a person sees more than 5,000 LPs, shit instantly becomes tens of thousands.
    Even solid guys I know grossly overestimate the size of their collections.
    Maybe Xavier has this many, but you need a fairly big place to store more than 10,000 records.

    Dante, your mind is amazing, but your calculation is wrong.

    7ft. high, and 48ft. wide would yield: 18 000 lp's at the (3000lp's= 7 x 8ft.)

    42 ft. high, and 8ft. wide would yield: 18 000 lp's at the (3000lp's= 7 x 8ft.)

    so, a Hypothetical wall of records at 42 ft. high x 48 ft. wide = 108 000 lp's.

    Who's even seen a record shelf 42 feet high and 8 feet wide?
    Are you sure my calculations are wrong?

    In any case, even 20,000 requires SPACE.

    EDIT--OK I did some math and drawing and 21 feet high x 24 feet wide would roughly equal 27,000 LPs.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Vertically and snugly shelved, 3000 LPs roughly take up a space 7 feet high and 8 feet wide.
    Doing the exponential math, a 20,000 piece collection would take up a wall that was around 42 feet high and 48 feet wide.
    Square footage is the easiest way to gauge a big collection.

    In my experience, anytime a person sees more than 5,000 LPs, shit instantly becomes tens of thousands.
    Even solid guys I know grossly overestimate the size of their collections.
    Maybe Xavier has this many, but you need a fairly big place to store more than 10,000 records.

    Dante, your mind is amazing, but your calculation is wrong.

    7ft. high, and 48ft. wide would yield: 18 000 lp's at the (3000lp's= 7 x 8ft.)

    42 ft. high, and 8ft. wide would yield: 18 000 lp's at the (3000lp's= 7 x 8ft.)

    so, a Hypothetical wall of records at 42 ft. high x 48 ft. wide = 108 000 lp's.

    Who's even seen a record shelf 42 feet high and 8 feet wide?
    Are you sure my calculations are wrong?

    In any case, even 20,000 requires SPACE.

    Yes, because to get 6 times as much square footage, you only need to multiply one dimension by 6, not both.


  • Right.
    DOOBIE MATH.

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    "Keys is one and two-fifth, so how we flip
    Thirty-two grams raw, chop it in half, get sixteen, double it times three
    We got forty-eight, which mean a whole lot of cream
    Divide the profit by four, subtract it by eight
    We back to sixteen, now add the other two that 'Mega bringin through
    So let's see, if we flip this other key
    Then that's more for me, mad coke and mad leak
    Plus a five hundred, cut in half is two-fifty
    Now triple that times three, we got three quarters of another key
    The Firm baby, volume one uhh.."

  • Mike_BellMike_Bell 5,736 Posts
    "Keys is one and two-fifth, so how we flip
    Thirty-two grams raw, chop it in half, get sixteen, double it times three
    We got forty-eight, which mean a whole lot of cream
    Divide the profit by four, subtract it by eight
    We back to sixteen, now add the other two that 'Mega bringin through
    So let's see, if we flip this other key
    Then that's more for me, mad coke and mad leak
    Plus a five hundred, cut in half is two-fifty
    Now triple that times three, we got three quarters of another key
    The Firm baby, volume one uhh.."


    Foxy Brown's math was all fucked up on this verse.



  • Not that it matters but X has a LOT of records. I'm not good at estimating but its gotta be over 20K.

    yeah I've seen 'em. But Lyrics Born has more. Even more than your boy Shadow I would venture.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts


    Not that it matters but X has a LOT of records. I'm not good at estimating but its gotta be over 20K.

    yeah I've seen 'em. But Lyrics Born has more. Even more than your boy Shadow I would venture.

    Just saying but I'd have some questions around quality control...not that I discount Tom's tastes but once you get above a certain number, you have to ask if each one of those is some crazy heatrock.

  • He mentioned more than once about inheriting his dad's collection. That had to be pretty deep.

  • He mentioned more than once about inheriting his dad's collection. That had to be pretty deep.

    Don't know about anybody else, but my dad didn't have the Magnum LP that's for sure.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    He mentioned more than once about inheriting his dad's collection. That had to be pretty deep.

    Don't know about anybody else, but my dad didn't have the Magnum LP that's for sure.

    Yes, but how about SEALED "What's Going On" LPs?

    $$$

  • all my dads records along with all his baseball cards were stolen when in early 90s. They were all nicely tucked away in my grandma's basement when some dude pretending to work for the city convinced her to let him peek around in the basement. I guess he snuck out the celler door and it wasn't realized until quite a bit later.

    yep
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