Don't Jews Eat Peanuts???

RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
edited January 2007 in Strut Central
Or did the ghost of Jimma's brother inhabit his body???http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119732A former U.S. Justice Department official disclosed to Arutz-7 that former U.S. President Jimmy Carter???s advocacy extended beyond the Palestinians, when he interceded on behalf of a Nazi SS man. Neil Sher, a veteran of the U.S. Justice Department???s Office of Special Investigation, described a letter he received from Carter in 1987 in an interview with Israel National Radio???s Tovia Singer. The letter, written and signed by Carter, asked that Sher show ???special consideration??? for a man proven to have murdered Jews in the Mauthausen death camp in Austria.???In 1987, Carter had been out of office for seven years or so,??? Sher recalled. ???It was a very active period for my office. We had just barred Kurt Waldheim ??? he was then president of Austria and former head of the United Nations ??? from entering the U.S. because of his Nazi past and his involvement in the persecution of civilians during the war. We had just deported an Estonian Nazi Commandant back to the Soviet Union after a bruising battle after which we were attacked by Reagan White House Communications Director Patrick Buchanan. ???Also around that time, in the spring of 1987, we deported a series of SS guards from concentration camps, whose names nobody would know. One such character we sent back to Austria was a man named Martin Bartesch.???Bartesch, who had immigrated to the U.S. and lived in Chicago, admitted to Sher???s office and the court that he had voluntarily joined the Waffen SS and had served in the notorious SS Death???s Head Division at the Mauthausen concentration camp where, at the hands of Bartesch and his cohorts, many thousands of prisoners were gassed, shot, starved and worked to death. He also confessed to having concealed his service at the infamous camp from U.S. immigration officials. ???We had an extraordinary piece of evidence against him ??? a book that was kept by the SS and captured by the American armed forces when they liberated Mauthausen,??? Sher said. ???We called it the death book. It was a roster that the Germans required them to keep that identified SS guards as they extended weapons to murder the inmates and prisoners.???An entry in the book for October 10, 1943 registered the shooting death of Max Oschorn, a French Jewish prisoner. His murderer was also recorded: SS guard Martin Bartesch. ???It was a most chilling document,??? Sher recalled. The same evidence was used by the U.S. military in postwar trials as the basis for execution or long prison sentences for many identified SS guards. ???We kicked him out and he went back to Austria. In the meantime, his family ??? he had adult kids ??? went on a campaign, also supported by his church, to try to get special treatment. In so doing they attacked the activities of our office and me personally. They claimed we used phony evidence from the Soviet Union ??? which was nonsense. They claimed he was a young man of only 17 or 18 when he joined the Nazi forces, asking for some sympathetic treatment and defense from our office, which they claimed was just after vengeance.???The family approached several members of Congress. ???The congressmen would, very understandably, forward their claims over to our office and when they learned the facts they would invariably drop the case,??? Sher recalled.But there was one politician who accepted the claims without asking for any further information. ???One day, in the fall of ???87, my secretary walks in and gives me a letter with a Georgia return address reading ???Jimmy Carter.??? I assumed it was a prank from some old college buddies, but it wasn???t. It was the original copy of the letter Bartesch???s daughter sent to Carter, after Bartash had already been deported.???In the letter, she claimed we were un-American, only after vengeance, and persecuting a man for what he did when he was only 17 and 18 years old. ???I couldn???t help thinking of my own father who returned home with shrapnel wounds after he joined the U.S. Army as a teenager to fight the Nazis and hit the beaches at Normandy at that same age on D-day.???On the upper corner of the letter was a note signed by Jimmy Carter saying that in cases such as this, he wanted ???special consideration for the family for humanitarian reasons.??????I didn???t respond to the letter ??? the case was already over and he was out of the country ??? but it always stuck in my craw. A former president who didn???t do what I would expect him to do - with a full staff at his disposal ??? to find out the facts before he took up the side of this person. But I wasn???t going to pick a fight with a former president. We had enough on our plate.???Now, following Carter???s book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, Sher has decided to go public with the hope that a public made aware of Carter???s support and defense of a Nazi SS man will help illustrate why the arbiter of the Camp David Accords came out with a book defending the Palestinians after the landslide election of the Islamist Hamas terror group. ???It always bothered me, but I didn???t go public with it until recently, when he wrote this book and let it spill out where his sentiments really lie,??? Sher said. ???Here was Jimmy Carter jumping in on behalf of someone who did not deserve in any way, shape or form special consideration. And the things he has now said about the Jewish lobby really exposes where his heart really lies.???Click here to listen to Tovia Singer???s interview with Shur on Israel National Radio.

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  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,471 Posts
    At first glance, I thought this topic was about the Jewish Beatnuts.

  • interesting, but kind of an ignorant heading for the subject ("dont jews eat peanuts"???). its not even funny.


  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    thats a pretty disgusting story.

    Heres a some more Jimmy Carter/ Jewish food for thought

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/11/carter.resignations/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

    Carter Center advisers resign over book
    POSTED: 4:56 a.m. EST, January 12, 2007

    ??? Concerns of 14 advisers reflect uproar in the U.S. Jewish community
    ??? Letters express concern over Carter's book "Palestine: Peace not Apartheid"
    ??? Advisers say book confused "opinion with fact, subjectivity with objectivity"
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    ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Former President Jimmy Carter's controversial book and subsequent remarks about the Israel-Palestinian conflict have prompted the resignations of 14 people from an advisory board of the Carter Center, the 25-year-old Atlanta-based humanitarian organization.

    The 14 explained their concerns, which reflect an uproar in the U.S. Jewish community over Carter's Mideast stance, in letters sent Thursday to fellow Board of Councilors members and Carter.

    "We can no longer endorse your strident and uncompromising position," the letter to Carter said. "This is not the Carter Center or the Jimmy Carter we came to respect and support."

    The letter to the fellow Board of Councilors, with more than 200 members, was brief and less detailed but expressed concern about Carter's book "Palestine: Peace not Apartheid."

    "We are deeply troubled by the president's comments and writings and are submitting the following letter of resignation to the Carter Center," the letter said.

    The letters were signed by Alan Abrams, Steve Berman, Michael Coles, Jon Golden, Doug Hertz, Barbara Babbit Kaufman, Liane Levetan, Jeff Levy, Leon Novak, Ambassador William B. Schwartz Jr., William B. Schwartz III, Steve Selig, Cathey Steinberg, and Gail Solomon. (Watch Carter defend his stance )

    The letter to Carter said while each person "has been proud to be associated" with the center and its work, "we can no longer in good conscience continue to serve the center as members of the Board of Councilors."

    The Board of Councilors is separate from the center's board of trustees, which is its governing body, the center says.

    The Board of Councilors "is an advisory body of community leaders and business people who are briefed quarterly on the center's work and serve as emissaries of the center to the greater community," the center said. "They are not engaged in implementing work of the center and are not a governing board."

    The letter to Carter accused him of abandoning his "historic role of broker in favor of becoming an advocate for one side." Carter's book confused "opinion with fact, subjectivity with objectivity and force for change with partisan advocacy," the letter said.

    "Israelis, through deed and public comment, have consistently spoken of a desire to live in peace and make territorial compromise to achieve this status. The Palestinian side has consistently resorted to acts of terror as a national expression and elected parties endorsing the use of terror, the rejection of territorial compromise and of Israel's right to exist. Palestinian leaders have had chances since 1947 to have their own state, including during your own presidency when they snubbed your efforts."

    The center's initial response to the departures expressed appreciation for the members' efforts but did not address the concerns.

    "We are grateful to these Board of Councilors members for their years of service and support for The Carter Center in advancing peace and health around the world," the center said.

    Many Jewish groups say it is unfair to equate Israel or its policies in occupied territories with the old South African apartheid system that divided the races.

    Carter has said the term refers to Israeli policies in occupied territories, not to Israel itself.

    The former president and Nobel Peace Prize winner has been busy speaking out on the issue since the book was published.

    Brandeis University in Massachusetts -- a nonsectarian school with a Jewish heritage and a large Jewish student body -- said Thursday that Carter will speak there and take questions.

    The school said he "has accepted an invitation from a student and faculty committee" there "to speak on campus, perhaps as soon as January 23, although the date may be subject to change."



  • Brandeis University in Massachusetts -- a nonsectarian school with a Jewish heritage and a large Jewish student body -- said Thursday that Carter will speak there and take questions.

    The school said he "has accepted an invitation from a student and faculty committee" there "to speak on campus, perhaps as soon as January 23, although the date may be subject to change."

    good luck with that audience

  • yesterday this old lady called up my work to order some stuff. she wanted to know when her package would be delivered and i told her most likely by friday, she said "ohhhh no, that won't do!! we're jewish, and jewish people don't do anything on friday OR saturday!!!"

    is this true? i've dated a few jewish ladies in my time and never heard about this!!

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    yesterday this old lady called up my work to order some stuff. she wanted to know when her package would be delivered and i told her most likely by friday, she said "ohhhh no, that won't do!! we're jewish, and jewish people don't do anything on friday OR saturday!!!"

    is this true? i've dated a few jewish ladies in my time and never heard about this!!

    the Jewish sabbath begins at sundown friday night and ends at sundown Saturday. In that time Jews are supposed to "rest" and not do any work. it's pretty odd to those who haven't seen it before. theres lots of things about it that make no sense such as not being able to turn on lightswitches or pull toilet paper off a roll.

    But yes Orthodox Jews tend to observe the sabbath

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    pull toilet paper of a roll.

    But yes Orthodox Jews tend to observe a stinky booty




    My favorite animal right now is gorillas. I can't wait for the weekend so i can go to the zoo and look at them again.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    interesting, but kind of an ignorant heading for the subject ("dont jews eat peanuts"???). its not even funny.


    Does this mean you won't be sending me your monthly donation for January??



    BTW....as a hoops fan I hate seeing Keith Van Horn's name everytime you post so I'll consider us even.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts

    My favorite animal right now is gorillas.

    They're not Kosher


    I can't wait for the weekend so i can go to the zoo and look at them again.

    You mean on Shabbos?!?

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts

    My favorite animal right now is gorillas.

    They're not Kosher

    Giraffes chew their cud and have split hoofs
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