RACESTRUT: Survivor: teams divided by color

GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
edited August 2006 in Strut Central
I had to do a double take when I first read thishttp://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,19833,00.htmlA Racy Twist for "Survivor"[/b]by Gina Serpe Aug 23, 2006, 8:10 AM PTSome may call it exploiting racial tensions. CBS calls it darn good television. Jeff Probst popped in on The Early Show Wednesday morning, confirming the reports that the 20 castaways for Survivor: Cook Islands will be grouped by race, with competitors divided into four tribes consisting of whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics. Apparently, "separate but equal" holds only the warmest of connotations for Mark Burnett. Like a good host, Probst had nothing but praise for the producers' controversial brainchild, calling the exercise in segregation a valuable social experiment rather than a stunt to dig up some controversy--and raise ratings. "The idea for this actually came from the criticism that Survivor was not ethnically diverse enough, because for whatever reason, we always have a low number of minority applicants apply for the show," Probst said. "So we set out and said, let's turn this criticism into creative for the show. And I think it fits perfectly with what Survivor does, which is, it is a social experiment, and this is adding another layer to that experiment which is taking the show to a completely different level." Different level, yes. Good level, still to be determined. "If I had been a producer of this show, it is not an idea I would have come up with or given approval to," Robert Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University, told E! Online. "It's like a return back to segregated leagues in sports. The unseemly interest this will invite certainly is not worth the dramatic elements it's going to bring." "To the less-than-open minded person, it is very easy to trash us," Burnett explained to Entertainment Weekly. "But we're smart enough to not make it negative. We're smart enough to have gotten rid of every racist person in casting." Though more to the point, the producers haven't and can't weed out every racially sensitive person in their audience who may take offense to the seemingly archaic and, potentially, socially irresponsible division. While the 43-year-old host admitted that the players themselves had "mixed reactions" to the racial separation, he made clear that the division was not meant to incite any controversy, add to the tension during the competition or simply be viewed as a gimmick. "Our original idea was simply to have the most ethnically diverse group of people on TV. It wasn't until we got to casting and started noticing this theme of ethnic pride that we started thinking, wow, if culture is still playing such a big part in these people's lives, that's our idea. Let's divide them based on ethnicity," he said. Though not everyone is as excited about the idea as Probst and his Survivor crew. "It sounds like a gimmick a lot of people are going to have real issues as to the taste of," Thompson said. Referencing Burnett's previous experiments on Survivor and The Apprentice to divide teams by boys vs. girls and more recently on the latter by street smarts vs. book smarts, Thompson said that "these things don't often work so well in less dicey situations." And any publicity is good publicity, right? "As far as getting some attention, getting it talked about again, this'll do it," Thompson said. "Survivor is a great game. It's the gold standard of reality TV. But nobody seems to talk about it anymore." Or watch it. Survivor: Cook Islands will be the reality show's 13th installment and comes on the heels of the least watched season in the series' history. Despite garnering an Emmy nod for Best Reality Competition, Survivor: Panama--Exile Island averaged a franchise-low 16.8 million viewers. Hence the drastic measure. CBS Entertainment president Nina Tassler told EW that while she was hesitant to give the go-ahead on the "risky idea," she finally relented, saying it was the logical next step in "a show that explores social politics." "It's not just 18 white people," Probst told the magazine. "Suddenly you have new slang, new rituals, people doing things like making fire in ways that haven't been done on Survivor. I think we have a season where people will say you can never go back to what you were before." It's not the first time a primetime reality show has flirted with race, though it will be the first time one follows through. Last year, Donald Trump hinted that The Apprentice was toying with the idea of dividing his two teams by race, only to backtrack on the notion when backlash started up, saying "I personally don't like it, so it will never happen." Survivor: Cook Islands kicks off Sept. 14. Here's a list of the competitors: Rebecca Borman, 24, makeup artist, Laurelton, New York; Anh-Tuan "Cao Boi" Bui, 42, nail salon manager, Christainburg, Virginia; Sekou Bunch, 45, jazz musician, Los Angeles; J.P. Calderon, 30, pro volleyball player, Marina Del Rey, California; Cristina Coria, 35, police officer, Los Angeles; Stephannie Favor, 35, nursing student, Columbia, South Carolina; Billy Garcia, 36, heavy metal guitarist, New York; Adam Gentry, 28, copier sales, San Diego; Nathan Gonzalez, 26, retail sales, Los Angeles; Jenny Guzon-Bae, 36, real estate agent, Lake Forest, Illinois; Yul Kwon, 31, management consultant, San Mateo, California; Becky Lee, 28, attorney, Washington, D.C.; Oscar "Ozzy" Lusth, 25, waiter, Venice, California; Cecilia Mansilla, 29, technology risk consultant, Oakland; Sundra Oakley, 31, actress, Los Angeles; Jonathan Penner, 44, writer/producer, Los Angeles; Parvati Shallow, 23, boxer/waitress, Los Angeles; Jessica Smith, 27, performance artist/rollergirl, Chico, California; Brad Virata, 29, fashion director, Los Angeles.

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  • CousinLarryCousinLarry 4,618 Posts
    What no Indians or Arabs? They can't even get their lame racial groupings right. I have an idea for next season "Survivor Auschwitz", but please don't see it as a gimmick. Its really just a way to open up a dialoged about killing people in mass and TV ratings. You know we take like a group of holocaust survivors and find some former Nazis hiding in South America and like put them in Auschwitz. It will be a smash hit.

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    What no Indians or Arabs? They can't even get their lame racial groupings right. I have an idea for next season "Survivor Auschwitz", but please don't see it as a gimmick. Its really just a way to open up a dialoged about killing people in mass and TV ratings. You know we take like an aging group of holocaust survivors and find some former Nazis hiding in South America and like put them in Auschwitz. It will be a smash hit.


  • DjArcadianDjArcadian 3,632 Posts
    Just fucking retarded.

  • PonyPony 2,283 Posts


    Burn your TV.

  • Billy Garcia, 36, heavy metal guitarist, New York;

  • What no Indians or Arabs?

    indians = asian

    arab = african

    man, this show sounds like a real bad idea

  • jleejlee 1,539 Posts

    Becky Lee, 28, attorney, Washington, D.C.;

    heads or tails....

    [color:white]b/w this shit is a fucking horrible idea that will likely be very successful.[/color]

  • ps
    one of the asian chicks looks kinda hot

  • Who cares. Survivor is a show for losers, made by losers. Let them clown themselves.

  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    when i first saw this i thought guzzo was trying to incite racial violence on soulstrut and i was going to post on how the aZn inVaZn would destroy everyone but i was sadly mistaken

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    when i first saw this i thought guzzo was trying to incite racial violence on soulstrut and i was going to post on how the aZn inVaZn would destroy everyone but i was sadly mistaken

    I know my role


  • Billy Garcia, 36, heavy metal guitarist, New York;




    i wonder which one is the heavy metal guitarist

  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    please! Some of those Asians don't even look like Asians!

    This idea is so ridiculous it's pretty funny actually. LOL

  • johmbolayajohmbolaya 4,472 Posts
    ps
    one of the asian chicks looks kinda hot


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    Billy Garcia, 36, heavy metal guitarist, New York;




    i wonder which one is the heavy metal guitarist

    Why does the white team have 20 people?

  • johmbolayajohmbolaya 4,472 Posts
    i wonder which one is the heavy metal guitarist

    Yeah, and where's Tera Patrick?

  • everyone is rockin the dreadlock except team hispania.

  • mandrewmandrew 2,720 Posts
    i didn't watch survivor until last season. one of my good friends was on the show, and actually ended up winning. anyway, i have to say, i agree with that professor that survivor really is the gold standard of reality tv. it an exciting, smart social commentary/experiment. the best part is watching people trying to survive the elements on one hand and survive amongst each other on the other.
    i got hooked on the show and will be watching this season for sure, hokey forced racial controversy and all.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    I refuse to watch this show until they do a Dwarves vs. Midgets episode.

  • coffinjoecoffinjoe 1,743 Posts
    I refuse to watch this show until they do a Dwarves vs. Midgets episode.



  • hemolhemol 2,578 Posts
    Interesting that the guy claims that they are"smart enough to eliminate racists"--as if it's something that couldn't be concealed--but then goes on to cite people's "ethnic pride" or whatever term the used. Semi-recent wrtings on community by Miranda Joseph higlight the fact that communities (ethnic pride) are created through the villianization and abjectifying of thse who "don't fit the bill." Essentially, I'm suspect of anyone that declares their "pride."

  • Essentially, I'm suspect of anyone that declares their "pride."

    Even these guys?


  • cpeetzcpeetz 2,112 Posts
    They've divided the teams by age and gender,
    and no one said a damn thing about it.
    I know it's kinda apples and oranges to
    compare age and gender to race but...
    It's just a twist on TV show!

  • GambleGamble 844 Posts
    I think this sounds much more fun to watch then it ever has been. I only see one latino in the picture though.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    I think this sounds much more fun to watch then it ever has been. I only see one latino in the picture though.

    Which is precisely why this is actually a pretty stupid idea on Survivor's part even though it might seem like an obvious gimmick to go with. For one thing, though Hispanics/Latinos get their own classification on the census, theirs is a rather fuzzy racial category (always has been) insofar as it conflates race and ethnicity. As I just posted on my blog, where the fuck does a Dominican contestant fit? They're Black AND Latino.

    And what? No room for some Native peoples?

    I mean, I'm glad Survivor is doing this b/c it's fodder for a lecture somewhere down the line but seriously, this is a dumb ass gimmick even for Survivor.

  • SLurgSLurg 446 Posts
    ...For one thing, though Hispanics/Latinos get their own classification on the census, theirs is a rather fuzzy racial category (always has been) insofar as it conflates race and ethnicity. As I just posted on my blog, where the fuck does a Dominican contestant fit? They're Black AND Latino.

    By the way, since you're Soul-Stut authority on everything race-related, I'd like to know what you think about this article :
    http://bittervibes.blogspot.com/2006/08/people-of-color-who-feel-they-are-not.html

  • I refuse to watch this show

  • CousinLarryCousinLarry 4,618 Posts
    And what? No room for some Native peoples?

    I think they would be a lock to win.
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