Austin: A Texan's Perspective

RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
edited August 2006 in Strut Central
There is no question that of all the large cities in Texas, Austin is the place to be. Dallas and Houston are superficial, plastic, overcommercialized cities with no real culture of their own. Modern day melting pots built on people's dreams to become wealthy. Urban sprawls without true urban history or charm. Musically Dallas has a rich history from the 20's-60's but is now an empty well with it's more recent famous alumni being the likes of The New Bohemians and Norah Jones. Commercial pablum. Eryka Badu gives us some street cred, but not nearly enough. And while Austin has great appeal with it's laid back attitude, scenic surroundings, colorful people and love of music, it is, in my opinion, been the most over rated music city in the nation for the last 25 years.It helped foster the legendary "Texas Outlaw" movement but that movement was really based in places like Lubbock, Luchenbach and Kerrville. It has famous "locals" like Stevie Ray Vaughan(Dallas), Marcia Ball(Louisiana), Willie Nelson(Fort Worth), Jerry Jeff Walker(New York), Doug Sahm(San Antonio) and Townes Van Zandt(Fort Worth).Truth be told, the only true Austinites to make any noise on the music scene in the last 25 years have been the likes of Eric Johnson and Charlie Sexton. Please add to this list as I'm sure I've missed a few.And of course there is South By Southwest. Originally started as a venue for "music biz insiders" it has evolved into a commercial free for all with all kinds of "hipsters" attending to be seen and say they were there. Truth is that of the 900+ acts to perform at SXSW over the last 4 years only 3(to my knowledge) were actually signed to record deals as a result. Most of the important and influential music biz folks no longer attend, a fact lost on wide eyed, overly enthusiastic rock star hopefuls.Now granted, I can't speak with any authority of the ATX Hip-Hop scene, but that is not what Austin has built it's reputation on. It's built it's reputation on having a great Blues club(Antones) and being a good city for touring acts to perform in. But as far as giving birth and nurturing it's own local scene, I haven't seen anything worth a damn since the late 70's Punk days.So when you think of "Austin Music" what is the first thing to pop into your head???

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  • RerogRerog 569 Posts
    Another Texans opinion (4 beers in).... Well Austin can claim Spoon, and thats a good thing. Best music city in Texas to me is Denton. I may be biased, but with groups like Midlake, the Paper Chase, and a lot more, i might just be right.

    Austin does have the rest of Texas beat on supporting bands, and that is why it is our "live music capital"...not on quality of music coming out of there.

  • traces of smoke?

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    traces of smoke?

    Clouds Dude, Clouds!!

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Austin does have the rest of Texas beat on supporting bands, and that is why it is our "live music capital"...not on quality of music coming out of there.

    And when you do well in the Denton scene you "earn" the right to play Austin twice a month....and if you're really good they will claim you as their own.......sad.



    One of my favorite songwriters ever, Brent Best, is one of Denton's own!!

  • RerogRerog 569 Posts
    Haha... If your really really good, you will move to Austin (or NYC)...
    Riverboat Gamblers just did this and Oceanographer are now NYC residents.
    I'm now in Grapevine, so I'm nobody!

    Brent is very good. You a Slobberbone fan then I guess?

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts

    Brent is very good. You a Slobberbone fan then I guess?

    Their first two albums are in my normal rotation.....the combination of Brent's lyrics and delivery is special.

    If "No Depression" music was spawned from Backwoods and Moonshine Stills...

    Slobberbone was a result of North Texas Trailer Parks and Meth Labs.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    Truth be told, the only true Austinites to make any noise on the music scene in the last 25 years have been the likes of Eric Johnson and Charlie Sexton. Please add to this list as I'm sure I've missed a few.

    1980's one-hit wonders Timbuk 3? ("The Future's So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades" was their moment.) And of course there's Alejandro Escovedo, but he plays here in Chicago (a/k/a "Austin North") so damn much that he seems more a part of our scene. Thing is, Chicago has become Headquarters #2 as far as alt-country music goes, which leads me to my next tale...

    A year ago, I was at an outdoor festival where the dB's and some other acts I now forget were playing. I was talking to two ladies who had come down from Austin to Chicago specifically for this block-party festival.

    One of the ladies sez to me, "you know, coming from Austin, I gotta say: Chicago's music scene seems kind of lame by comparison."

    I said, "Why do you say that? We have as many wimpy alt-country bands as Austin does, so you oughta feel right at home!"

  • One good thing about Austin's music scene is you can go to just about any regular ol' bar and hear a pretty decent band on any given night. Austin may be lacking the superstar lineage, but this place is crawling with talented musicians. If you just wanna catch a buzz and hear some some good live music, of just about any genre, Austin is an easy place to do that.

    Much love to the Denton music scene. Keep doin the do.

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    Houston really has no culture of it's own?


    I saw Slobberbone live once. Didn't like them very much,
    but didn't think they were "bad" so much as just not my cup of joe.
    I did like when they did a cover of The Replacements' "Answering
    Machine," though.

  • ryanryan 334 Posts
    Truth be told, the only true Austinites to make any noise on the music scene in the last 25 years have been the likes of Eric Johnson and Charlie Sexton. Please add to this list as I'm sure I've missed a few.

    i would add add tim kerr, roky erickson, daniel johnston, and to some extent bob mould (sugar era) to the list. some would say spoon and trail of dead. i would say the motards . . . .

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Houston really has no culture of it's own?



    I think that both Dallas and Houston's post boomtown(late 70's) culture is defined by the likes of Enron, Rolex and Hummers. Both of these cities have doubled in size over the last 30 years and this has seriously diluted and/or devoured whatever culture was there prior to this time.

  • TabaskoTabasko 1,357 Posts

    So when you think of "Austin Music" what is the first thing to pop into your head???


  • DrJoelDrJoel 932 Posts
    i just did an email interview (No funky underbelly) with someone that played SXSW and he didnt even bother answering my question on the importance of the festival. He (Carey Ott) was kind of bitter about industry as a whole though, so i think he was just putting more into the questions that were actually about his music. His attitude towards touring (van, no money, bad food, etc) in general wasn't so bright.

    Austin City Limits? Where does this fit in to everything?

  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
    I was in a few "denton" bands, and our austin shows were always the most fun(RIP Electric Lounge)....hanging out with King Coffy and Gibby, trying to get into Cathy of the furry things' pants, drugs....good times, good times...
    and when you play at Stubbs you get free BBQ

    although our biggest crowd was at the Fry Street fair 96 or 97, second to the headliners, Baboon, I think, played for about 3000 folks.

    austin has good restaurants, nice hotels...but fuck a sixth street.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Austin Musical Legends from long ago:

    Kenny Dorham
    Martin Banks
    T.D. Bell
    Grey Ghost
    James Polk

    Austin Musical Stars from the past 25 years:

    SRV
    Big Boys
    Butthole Surfers (moved here from San Antonio)
    Ministry (moved here from Chicago)
    Spoon
    Los Lonely Boys (moved here from San Angelo)
    Salih Williams/Carnival Beats (they bounce back and forth between here and Luling)

    Current Noteworthy Locals:

    Pinetop Perkins (moved here from Chicago)
    Cyril Neville (moved here from New Orleans)
    DJ Rapid Ric
    D-Madness
    Gary Clark Jr.
    Grupo Fantasma/Brownout
    Martin Perna (moved here from New York)
    BLAZE/Ephraim Owens
    DJ Baby G (moved here from Dallas)
    DJ Cut Creator (moved here from New York - not sure if he's still here though)

    Various Noteworthy Locals from the past:

    The Dicks
    Michael E. Johnson & the Killer Bees
    Project Crew
    Bad Mutha Goose
    Bouffant Jellyfish
    Soul Hat
    Ed Hall/Pong

    Also, Nelly was born in Austin.

    Surely, I'm missing a bunch...but that's at least a good start.

    As far as famous Austin clubs from the past, there's the Armadillo, Raul's, Mercado Caribe, Cannibal Club, Liberty Lunch, might as well throw the Coliseum (seen in the Clash's Combat Rock video) and Austin Opera House in there as well, Electric Lounge, and now the Back Room.

    The historic Victory Grill which used to be a crucial stop on the chitlin circuit is still open to this day in East Austin thanks to the work of Eva Lindsay.

    Harold McMillans's DiverseArts project also deserves a lot of credit for working to preserve the historical credibility of Austin as a lightning rod for African-American culture.

    Juneteenth is celebrated here every year in a very big way.

    Texas Relays Weekend is another enormous African-American cultural event that happens annually.

    Having so many people move here from New Orleans this past year certainly changes the make-up of this city as well.

    Then of course there is the MASSIVE Mexican influence to boot.


    I disagree that Houston has no culture apart from stripmalls and oil refineries. It's a coastal, bayou city with many almost-Cajun characteristics shared with nearby places including Port Arthur and Lafayette. Furthermore, Galveston ain't no joke.


    Baboon is a great band. I went to high school in Houston with their singer Andrew and their lead guitarist Mike. Their last album, which came out like 3 years ago, is their best work to date IMO.


    OK, that's enough for now.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts

  • RerogRerog 569 Posts
    Dude from Dynamix II is in Austin now too, works for Dell. Gave my man some ill records.

    Texas can also now claim Mike Smooth a/k/a Lord Finesse's Dj.... a new Dallas resident.

    Oh yeah, Justin Timberlakes DJ is from Dallas... but who could that be?
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