Why Hip Hop ain't as good as it once was.....
Mangoman
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Mango Theory of why hip hop isn???t as dope as it was..If you notice around 88- 91 hip hop was very spiritual they believed in something greater than the all mighty dollar. Most cats at that time where finding there spiritual side. Brand Nubian, Lakim Shabazz, KMD, ATCQ, etc???. Then Hip Hop went gangsta, which was good cause their was still a lot of emotion involved??? Nowadays Kids just chasing loot, which shows in their work..Though their still is Good LP???s out theirs just more crap to weed threw???Now I read this and see how lame I sound, I guess it???s the fruit (Mango, Green with Salt= yummy;) and vitamins mixed with coffe???.I guess I miss solid HIP HOP LP???s, ah theirs still good ones out their, I'm just 
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swap Quasimoto for "Whomevers hot on national radio".
Can we please get off the Golden era stuff.
Shit was hot 79'to 85' as well as 91'to96'. Whatever-blah blah blah.
yeah I really miss the spirituality of 88-91
Ain't you banned yet?
We'll say that ATCQ made loot, and continued making loot because their style made loot. Why do you think Q-Tip went all Vivrant Thing? Cause his earlier style stopped making loot.[/b]
seriously.
I could understand someone saying this 5 years ago, but there's a lot of good shit out now...
Peace
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For real! I thought I was a pain in the ass.
Hip Hop has just become the main music form so there is lots of crap you have to weed through (as stated). I think the fact that hip hop is so popular and is given a chance makes it better in the long run. It's like saying all Jazz music sucks just cuz Kenny G sucks. Free you mind and you ass will follow.
I phased out for a few months, and when I did, I missed a lot of good stuff. It is very easy to complain about what once was, but it's been said many times, there's A LOT out there. Formulas have been tested, extracted, and now mass produced. That is what sells, but more importantly, that is what the majors want to sell. It's no longer a slow ride to the top of the charts, it's already known what will be the three singles and videos, which will have the remix treatment, and who will appear in what films for the next 9 months. A section of the music is much more calculated than it once was, and that's what you hear 24 hours a day. 20 years ago, unless you lived in NYC or LA, rap music was not on for that many hours, if at all. If you were lucky, your cable system had BET. In the mid-80's, as a few artists started picking up on the "hip-hop trend", radio stations would specifically ask for non-rap mixes. There was a threat. That Brandy song produced by Kanye West, it too came in a non-rap version, and that was from last year.
I'm getting off-topic again, but there's a hell of a lot of great hip-hop out there, and we all know that. The term "it's hard to find" is not acceptable in this age of MP3's, p2p, or the internet. Mercer and Sandbox have been doing their thing for years, Fat Beats now has a web presence, Mike Pizzo still doing his thing in Las Vegas... even in the Wu era, when you couldn't turn around without hearing Method Man on something, there were white labels of anything and everything, and within that were loads of indie/underground artists. Someone like Derelect Camp might not have been huge, or maybe only a few people remembered the stoned guy in the "Funky Soul Sensation" video, but within the growth of mainstream hip-hop was the stuff that didn't try too hard to be a pop anything. Group Home's "Supa Star", still one of the best songs of the last ten years.
Yet look at the growth of the music between 1995 and 2005. Whoever guessed Twista would be back? Whoever guessed Kwame would be back? Hell, whoever thought the man who once said "fuck Hollywood, man" would be someone with a successful acting career?
There's a hell of a lot of good music coming out today. It is great to look back at what we all grew up listening to, that's my "hanabata days" right there. But you have music by One.Be.Lo, Oh No, Time Machine, Crown City Rockers, Blue Scholars, Deep Thinkers, Trek Life, Braille, Anonymous, Old Joseph, Arcane, Little Brother, Foreign Exchange, Illwill, SMI, Thump, CasUno, Boom Bap Project, Greyskul, Ricci Rucker, Earth Movers, 2Mex, Tanya Morgan, Soul-Junk, Gunther B., Edan, and everyone who is making quality music for today. I say if people can't find any good rap music coming out in 2005, perhaps its time to have a passion for another genre.
"ain't taking no (spiritual) shorts no more"
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There's this music store in my town that has a sign up in their guitars section that says "NO PLAYING STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN". I think SStrut should do the same with this topic.
yea! forgot about that...
Forget about going back in time, though, I'm trying to go forward in time to when that post-hip-hop music hits the scene.
That would be "Lesson 6"
Actually, I'd heard that Mike Myers (ex of Toronto) was inspired by that music store's sign for the joke in Wayne's World.