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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">JimBeam</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">NomoreGarciaparra</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">JimBeam</strong> said:</div><div>you're the only one getting it here.<br /> everyone's quick to jump on the trade monta bandwagon, but nobody seriously thinks about what they're getting in return. you get more value with curry as teams are looking to shed payroll in the short term. with monta and his bloated contract, you get the same thing in return: overpaid shooter-- and one without monta's numbers.<br /> <br /> if monta goes, the warriors will not only be worried about defense, but they'll be struggling to put up numbers. </div></blockquote> <br /> Then why don't they struggle to put up numbers now when Ellis's overrated ass is not on the floor?<br /> <br /> One more time:<br /> <br /> "The most damning stat, however, is how much better the team played without him. Golden State outscored its opponents quite comfortably as long as Ellis wasn't around, and finished a whopping 11.4 points per 100 possessions better without Ellis -- giving him the single worst differential in basketball."<br /> <br /> People who follow losing teams for too long develop affections for losing machines like Ellis. If he's the best player on your team you've got NO SHOT at being good. The Warriors should dump him for a role player with some defensive skills and move on.</div></blockquote> <br /> same shit can be said about most players on the warriors when the stat is looking at differentials. they lost a ton of games... <br /> the warriors were way worse (statistically, as a team) at rebounding last season with lee on the floor. isn't dude supposed to be super rebounder? i don't hear anyone demanding that lee get shopped. (this may, however, be because they literally can't trade him. they signed him to a terrible contract.)<br /> <br /> all of these adjusted stats look terrible when the ENTIRE TEAM is bad. if you lose a lot of games, scoring differentials will always be negative. if you play most of those losing game minutes, (around 42mpg) your differentials will look worse.<br /> ellis is a better player than curry-- especially offensively-- the one area that the w's were good at. he carried the load in that category. <br /> <br /> the warriors can get more in return for trading curry. this shit should be a no-brainer.<br /> <br /> and way to psycho-analyze it at the end there, braintrust.</div></blockquote> <br /> If you're going to try to insult me with "braintrust" you should try to do it without first revealing your own sad lack of reading comprehension. Sure, the differentials of players on a losing team will be bad, but the stat about Ellis isn't his differential against the league. It's his differential against HIS OWN TEAM. They scored more when he wasn't on the floor, get it? Your point that they'll struggle to score points without him is invalidated by the fact that they didn't struggle to score points without him. They scored more. Significantly more. <br /> <br /> Do you know why the Warriors can get more in return for Curry? It's not just the contract. Curry's a better player and a whole lot more likely to contribute to a winning team than Ellis. Even out their contracts and there would still be more interest in Curry than in Ellis.
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