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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">LaserWolf</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">Horseleech</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">LaserWolf</strong> said:</div><div>If you can find the npr show where Dan Savage talks about his relationship to the Catholic church I would encourage giving it a listen. <br />
	In one part he talks about his mother going to see Father Patrick. Dan has just come out to his mother and she is upset and sharing this with Father Patrick. He puts his hand on her knee and and says, "it is ok, I am gay too". After that she had no problem with her sons sexuality and proudly embraced who he was. Her take was, the Church is wrong on homosexuality, wrong on divorce, wrong on birth control, wrong on abortion, wrong on women in the clergy, BUT, it is my church and I wont let a stupid pope drive me out.</div></blockquote>
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	I don't really understand people who pick and choose the little bits they like and disregard the bits they don't and still call themselves Catholic (or whatever).<br />
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	It just seems like they want the advantages of belonging without having to, well, <em>believe</em>.<br />
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	It was hypocrisy like this that made me bail on religion when I was about eight.</div></blockquote>
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	One way to look at it. <br />
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	Another is to see your religion as an entrance into a world where you can study, pray, learn, and come to your own conclusions about the meaning of holy books, spirituality, morality and life. Many Catholics do this everyday. Many (most) do not agree with Vatican doctrine. If that makes them hypocritical I think it is too their credit that they are hypocritical.</div></blockquote>
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	I tend to agree with you on that.  I rejected Catholicism as a kid but the Catholics I respect almost all reject the more disgusting aspects of the Church and ignore large parts of its official teaching.

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