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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">dukeofdelridge</strong> said:</div><div>Barry Manilow is probably considered a good singer by other singers.  I dunno.  <br />
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	I did make the"popular = valid" point.  I tried word it where I was just shrug my shoulders there like, "hey: what are you going to do?"  Not liking the guy is different than saying he's not funny.  People like his stuff!  <br />
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	As for Mencia, those dudes who worked for him (and from whom he ripped off entire acts--like the dead dude? So gnarly.) all admit that he's a great comic.  He could just stick with the 80% that wasn't lifted and be great.<br />
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	But yeah.  The "hey he's popular so he must be good" argument is, like I said, probably a pretty valid one with comics, who measure success by laughs.  <br />
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	Idiots need to laugh too, ya know?</div></blockquote>
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	So you're laying the blame for your terrible argument off on anonymous "other singers" and "those dudes" and hypothetical "comics."  Good move, because you sure don't want to own it yourself.

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