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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">PelvicDust</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">lamprey eel</strong> said:</div><div>I don't validate the greatness of their music by them (The Beach Boys) truly being America's band (which they are) or being simply "American", period. Their music is great on its own terms, of that there can be no doubt. However, their very Americaness is something that both informs and is projected by their music in a way that is singularly distinct and influential in informing music listeners the whole world over as to what the essence and spirit of America is, encapsulated and transmitted in the form of two to three minute pop perfections <em>par excellence</em>.<br />
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	Talk about extraneous, meaningless bullshit.<br />
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	The Beach Boys capture the "essence and spirit" of America.  The "real America," right?<br />
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	Chuck Berry never could have managed that trick, of course.  That's why they stole from him.  It was Manifest Destiny or somesuch.</div></blockquote>
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	Because The Beach Boys are great does not mean that Chuck Berry isn't great as well (well, at least Chuck's early music is great... can't make much of a case for him being a great human being), but Chuck Berry is not a band, <em>per se</em>. The Beach Boys are most definitely a band (<em>America's band</em>, at that.)

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