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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">PelvicDust</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">lamprey eel</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">PelvicDust</strong> said:</div><div>It's not just their pristine whiteness,</div></blockquote>
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	Yeah, now <em>there's</em> a real liability for you. :exclaim:  <br />
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	<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">PelvicDust</strong> said:</div><div>it's their total lack of connection with any kind of underground.</div></blockquote>
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	This very well may possibly be your most pathetic argument point ever. Underground, schmunderground, take their music on its own terms without any copout bullshit need to tie it in to/contextualize it to anything else.</div></blockquote>
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	You mean like how you keep referring to them as "American"?</div></blockquote>
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	I don't validate the greatness of their music by them (The Beach Boys) truly being America's band (which they are) or being simply "American", period. Their music is great on its own terms, of that there can be no doubt. However, their very Americaness is something that both informs and is projected by their music in a way that is singularly distinct and influential in informing music listeners the whole world over as to what the essence and spirit of America is, encapsulated and transmitted in the form of two to three minute pop perfections <em>par excellence</em>.<br />
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	<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">PelvicDust</strong> said:</div><div>Like who gives a fuck?  Would they be a lesser band if they were Canadian?</div></blockquote>
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	If they were Canadian they would have sounded different (and been a completely different band.) The music of The Beach Boys itself is inextricably linked with their Americaness.<br />
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	<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">PelvicDust</strong> said:</div><div>And didn't you once run a label called "Zabriskie Point"?  Was that a copout bullshit move?</div></blockquote>
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	I don't get your point here. How could the randomly selected name of my previous record label be seen as any sort of "copout bullshit move"?

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