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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">StoneHands</strong> said:</div><div>Well no, they didn't just show up of course. But they did show up, they were different, they were hardworking because they were non-complacent and trying to make a better life for themselves after the exile. Religion was the main ideology of the day. Ideology, just like language, ethnicity and culture binds people into tribes. This was a case of one tribe not liking a newly arrived tribe. To oppress the new tribe, religion was used as a tool. I still don't see how you can point to religion as the ROOT, rather than other socio-economic factors. Why did Muslims in Spain get along with Jews for hundreds of years? Do you think there exists nothing negative about Judaism in the Islamic tradition?</div></blockquote>
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	They were "hardworking" but the Germans weren't?  I just don't get what you're saying here.<br />
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	The old "tribe" didn't like the new tribe based on religious prejudice.  No particular other reason.  <br />
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	If you're going to try to use Muslim/Jew cohabitation as a basis for your argument you're going to lose and lose badly.  Wow, they got along in Spain 500+ years ago!  Awesome!<br />
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	How have things been going recently?  <br />
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	And yeah, I know there are negatives against Judaism in the Muslim tradition.  I'm trying to figure out how you think that counts against my point.<br />
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	I can't see how it does.  Not even a little bit.  What are you arguing here?  "Yes, there are negative feelings against Judaism in the Muslim tradition, but how can you say that amounts to a conflict between theisms?"<br />
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	Really?  "Hey, dude, yes, water is wet, but that doesn't mean it's MOIST."  Really?

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