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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">p_gunn</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">BobDesperado</strong> said:</div><div><br />
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	And then there's Tony Williams, who could do it all.</div></blockquote>
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	tony williams deads all debate re: bonham/baker/moon/paice/ward/mitcehll/etc...<br />
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	he is the king and all solists dream to play over a dude like him...<br />
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	<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">kala</strong> said:</div><div>1966<br />
	double bass<br />
	he was first<br />
	thats all i was sayin<br />
	i too prefer bill ward,but i think cream influenced sabbath???heavily<br />
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	yr right, he was the first to do double bass and not as a gimmick...<br />
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	for british rock drummers, baker is the king... one, he came first so, yeah he was big influence on ward/bonham...  he is the only real jazz cat amongst them all... they are all just faking the funk compared to him...  mitch mitchell is great, but you never feel like he could have played in a jazz group for real for real... he's a jazz influneced rock drummer, whereas GB has actuall jazz skills...  i like his feel for a back beat as well:<br />
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	i remember going to the british library at king's cross and seeing a WWII exhibit w/ letters from solders home and one of them was from ginger baker's dad to him and his sister,,, apparenty he died right after the letter was sent...  <br />
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	i dunno, i have just always liked his drumming...<br />
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	I know Stones hate runs deep around here but Charlie Watts has to be mentioned among British drummers with jazz chops.

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