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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">DocMcCoy</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">PelvicDust</strong> said:</div><div>I'd be embarrassed to use the phrase "in this day and age," but then maybe that's just me.</div></blockquote> <br /> Yeah, me and my Chaucerian English. <br /> <br /> <blockquote>I didn't say anything about "staying off the grid." Nor did I only say "underground."</div></blockquote> <br /> What's "underground" if it isn't in some way "off the grid"? And since you avoided my point, the term becomes meaningless when a brand new band can be all over The Hype Machine a week or two after their first gig. So, you carry on basing value judgements on anachronistic hippy notions such as an underground, and I'll stick with terms like "in this day and age". I doubt either of us will envy the other too much.<br /> <br /> <blockquote>But yeah, I guess there's no difference between the Velvet Underground and the Beach Boys that's worth talking about. It's just all about "artistic worth," and that's some sort of concrete principle that can be determined mathematically.<br /> <br /> Thanks for setting me straight, sonny.</blockquote> <br /> Who brought the Velvet Underground into it, or said anything about concrete principles, mathematical or otherwise? Criticising the Beach Boys because they've no connection to any kind of underground is like complaining about ice-cream being cold.</blockquote> <br /> I was responding to a comment that suggested that some people didn't warm up to the Boys because of their extreme whiteness. I used a phrase (not just the single word "underground" that seems to have goosed you extremely hard) to suggest that it wasn't just a matter of whiteness, but their extreme mainstream suck-off-the-boss and mind-your-manners attitude as well. <br /> <br /> The Beach Boys would have been the favorite band at Omega in "Animal House." Greg Marmalard and Doug Neidermeyer looked like Beach Boys.
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