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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">DocMcCoy</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">batmon</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">DocMcCoy</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">PelvicDust</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">DocMcCoy</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote> their total lack of connection with any kind of underground.</div></blockquote>
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	Like this matters any kind of a shit whatsoever for anyone or anything.</div></blockquote>
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	It often has.  Are you serious?  <br />
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	If such a thing matters to anyone, it's only to people whose main interest in any sort of music is how cool they appear by professing to like it. <br />
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	C'mon, son - "underground"? In this day and age, where the only true way of staying off the grid is to not actually produce <em>any</em> music? I'd be embarrassed to use the term at all, much less as a measure of artistic worth.</div></blockquote>
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	Didnt "counter-cultural" hold some merit up until the internets/90's? <br />
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	Not everyone like the Beatles at the same time. Or Punk or Hip Hop or OG Rock-n-Roll. <br />
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	Pat Boone covers = the OG. <br />
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	The music/art comes from a different place(not garage,ghetto,etc.), just from another intent?<br />
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	To me, "underground" can only be legitimately used these days to describe shit like Scandinavian black metal. That's the kind of shit that's right out at the margins and staying there. IMO, nothing counter-cultural has come from rock music since the US hardcore scene of the 80s.<br />
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	I think pop culture and musical trends were already accelerating at an absurd rate before the internet really blew up. By the 90s, I was only hearing the phrase "underground" used in connection with house music, indie hip-hop and Detroit techno, probably by the same kind of people who'd later use the acronym "IDM" with a straight face.<br />
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	I hear what you're saying about intent as opposed to geographical/cultural origin. US hardcore is a good example of something that developed its own aesthetic, but which could accommodate a lot of different things stylistically and politically - Bad Brains, Husker Du, Minutemen, that kind of shit. At a certain point, though, that aesthetic becomes more important to some people than the music itself, to the extent that it becomes a lifestyle choice where ticking all the right boxes takes precedence over everything else. Anywhere there's a musical scene where people use the prefix "underground" before the kind of music itself, you'll find people twisting themselves into ideological circles over whether or not certain things are fake, soft, real or true. And the only people to whom such things matter, have ever mattered and will ever matter, are people who are hopelessly hung up on how fake, soft, real or true something is at the expense of everything else. Take that away from them, and how would they be able to assert their superior taste over people with different values?</blockquote>
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	I'm not sure why you're reading what I said - which was "their total lack of connection with any kind of underground" - and reacting as though I said something like, "because they weren't an underground band."  <br />
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	But at least I gave you a chance to assert your superiority over people who have a different idea about what matters than you do.<br />
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	Those bastards!

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