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<blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">DocMcCoy</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">PelvicDust</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div><strong class="bc-author">DocMcCoy</strong> said:</div><div><blockquote> their total lack of connection with any kind of underground.</div></blockquote>
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	Like this matters any kind of a shit whatsoever for anyone or anything.</div></blockquote>
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	It often has.  Are you serious?  <br />
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	If such a thing matters to anyone, it's only to people whose main interest in any sort of music is how cool they appear by professing to like it. <br />
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	C'mon, son - "underground"? In this day and age, where the only true way of staying off the grid is to not actually produce <em>any</em> music? I'd be embarrassed to use the term at all, much less as a measure of artistic worth.</blockquote>
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	I'd be embarrassed to use the phrase "in this day and age," but then maybe that's just me.<br />
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	I didn't say anything about "staying off the grid."  Nor did I only say "underground."  <br />
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	But yeah, I guess there's no difference between the Velvet Underground and the Beach Boys that's worth talking about.  It's just all about "artistic worth," and that's some sort of concrete principle that can be determined mathematically.<br />
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	Thanks for setting me straight, sonny.

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