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<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote class="Quote"><div>PelvicDust said:</div><div><blockquote class="Quote"><div>4YearGraduate said:</div><div>People are entitled to like whoever they like or don't like. That said, same people should be able to delineate "I don't like xyz" from "xyz are overrated" 
	 
	MJ and the beatles and prince are overrated? Gtfoohwtb. Take a look through your record collections and chart the sheer amount of influence these artists have had on other popular musicians. This isn't even an argument worth having, their "ratedness" is sitting in your expedit. 
	 
	So you don't like them personally, that's fine, but when people all over the world cherish thier musical legacy, it's kind of hard to be critical. 
	 
	Let's not turn soulstrut into the teaparty of music criticism.</div></blockquote>
	 
	All art is in a constant state of reassessment and subject to criticism at any time. 
	 
	Recorded music hasn't been around very long historically speaking. 
	 
	Thirty years ago people would have laughed out loud if you'd said that in 2010 Michael Jackson would be widely considered to have been more important than Stevie Wonder, or that the Sex Pistols would dance on Rick Wakeman's grave.</div></blockquote>
	 
	Really dude, thirty years ago? 
	From wiki: 
	 
	Released in 1979, it was the first album to generate four U.S. top 10 hits, including the chart-topping singles "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough" and "Rock with You".[16] It reached number three on the Billboard 200 and eventually sold over 20 million copies worldwide.[17] In 1980, Jackson won three awards at the American Music Awards for his solo efforts: Favorite Soul/R&B Album, Favorite Soul/R&B Male Artist, and Favorite Soul/R&B Single for "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough".[18][19] That year, he also won Billboard Year-End for Top Black Artist and Top Black Album and a Grammy Award for Best Male R&B Vocal Performance, also for "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough".[16] Jackson again won at the American Music Awards in 1981 for Favorite Soul/R&B Album and Favorite Soul/R&B Male Artist.[20] Despite its commercial success, Jackson felt Off the Wall should have made a much bigger impact, and was determined to exceed expectations with his next release.[21] In 1980, he secured the highest royalty rate in the music industry: 37 percent of wholesale album profit.[22] 
	 
	cmon son. four corners of the world were immitating or geeked of MJ in 1980. 
	 
	Wonder didn't get his first platinum till 1980 
	 
	Hotter than July (1980) became Wonder's first platinum-selling single album, and its single "Happy Birthday" was a successful vehicle for his campaign to establish Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday as a national holiday. 
	 
	WHY ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT THIS? 
	 
	Yall need to trim your mindgardens with some realityclippers sometimes.</blockquote>
	 
	You know dude's parents/peers werent playin Off The Wall in his house. 
	They all jumped on for Thriller like a GANG of folks.</blockquote>
	 
	I don't give a shit about Wonder or "MJ." Not one single shit. 
	 
	So I should have said "32 years ago." Whatever, it's just an example. And the "platinum" bit is irrelevant that asks about "overrated" by critics and fans of the band. Numbers sold has nothing to do with it that I can see. 
	 
	Stevie Wonder was a major critical darling in the 70s. I was there and I remember. I'm not saying he still is, since obviously his rep in that circle has fallen. 
	 
	Meanwhile it's funny how Jackson's fans are well on the way to basing a religion on him. I wonder where they'll find their altar boys.

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