RANK THE ALBUMS OF THE HIP HOP HEAVYWEIGHTS

Phill_MostPhill_Most 4,594 Posts
edited March 2018 in Music Talk
I feel like starting a riot on a saturday night... looks like I caught my son's cold and may be really f**ked up by tomorrow morning (and will have to take care of both kids all day tomorrow, sick or not), so I'm just gonna start some schitt up in here tonight just for the hell of it

RANK THE ALBUMS OF THE HIP HOP HEAVYWEIGHTS

Meaning, list the albums of some of the legends of rap in order from best (or most liked) to worst (or least liked). To do this can only cause arguments, chaos and commotion. Maybe even bad feelings, name calling and death threats. Let's do it. I will set it off, y'all add on:

GHOSTFACE KILLAH

  1. 1. Supreme Clientele
  2. 2. Iron Man (just BARELY behind Supreme Clientele)
  3. 3. Pretty Tony
  4. 4. Bullet Proof Wallets
DE LA SOUL

  1. 1. The Grind Date (surprised, aren't you?)
  2. 2. 2. Stakes Is High
  3. 3. 3. Three Feet High And Rising
  4. 3. 4. De La Soul Is Dead
  5. 5. Buhloone Mindstate
  6. 6. 6. Those A.O.I albums... doesn't really matter which comes before the other IMO
KRS ONE / BDP

  1. 1. Criminal Minded
  2. 2. 2. Return Of The Boom Bap
  3. 3. 3. By All Means Necessary
  4. 4. 4. Sex And Violence
  5. 5. 5. KRS One
  6. 6. 6. Ghetto Music: The Blueprint Of Hip hop
  7. 7. 7. Edutainment
  8. 8. 8. I Got Next
  9. 9. 9. whatever else... Kris did a lot of recent stuff I haven't checked for, and although he is a great live performer i wasn't crazy about the "Live Hardcore Worldwide" lp... that's just me, though
JAY-Z

  1. 1. Reasonable Doubt
  2. 2. 2. The Blueprint (actually not all that far behind "Reasonable" for me)
  3. 4. The Black Album (can't believe how much this album grew on me)
  4. 5. Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life5. In My Lifetime Vol. 1
  5. 7. Vol 3... Life & Times Of S. Carter
  6. 8. MTV Unplugged
  7. 9. The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
  8. 11. Blueprint 2: The Gift And The Curse
COMMON / COMMON SENSE

  1. 1. Resurrection
  2. 2. 2. One Day It'll All Make Sense
  3. 3. 3. Be
  4. 4. 4. Like Water For Chocolate
  5. 5. 5. Can I Borrow A Dollar
  6. 6. 6. Electric Circus (I don't remember if I ever even heard all of "Can I Borrow A Dollar", but I still rank it over this one)
I'm just gonna get you started with these, y'all add to it with some rap dudes representing the dirty south, midwest, west, more recent artists, emo rappers, kufi and headwrap advocates or whatever others. Also feel free to start similar threads in which you can all debate the rankings of albums by soul and funk artists, rock stars and, of course, the legends of AM Gold. I will just sit back and sip Theraflu while you manimals rip each other to shreds. Get yo' debate on, n*ggaz!
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  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    GHOSTFACE KILLAH
    1. Supreme Clientele
    2. Iron Man (just BARELY behind Supreme Clientele)
    3. Pretty Tony
    4. Bullet Proof Wallets

    I'm right there with you; Clientele is a better album, but the highs on Iron Man are more better. (ie I'll take "winter warz" and "daytona" over anything else he did...but maybe that's cuz I actually like u-god)

    DE LA SOUL
    1. Stakes Is High
    2. The Grind Date
    3. Buhloone Mindstate
    4. De La Soul Is Dead
    5. AOI 1 (had some good shit)
    6. AOI 2 (had that one good single)
    7. Three Feet High (I hate this album)


    JAY-Z
    1. Reasonable Doubt
    2. The Blueprint (actually not all that far behind "Reasonable" for me)
    3. The Black Album (can't believe how much this album grew on me)
    4. Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life
    5. In My Lifetime Vol. 1
    6. Vol 3... Life & Times Of S. Carter
    7. MTV Unplugged
    8. The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
    9. Blueprint 2: The Gift And The Curse

    I aint up on jigga in the vol 1-3 era enough to judge this, but where would you put Blueprint 2.1 (which trimmed a lot of the crap off what was a pretty fucking dope album)?

    COMMON / COMMON SENSE
    1. Resurrection
    2. Like Water For Chocolate
    3. One Day It'll ALl Make Sense
    4. Can I Borrow A Dollar
    5. BE
    6. Electric Circus (I never really heard this, but everything I did was real shit)

    and adding on...

    THE ROOTS
    1. Illadelph Halflife
    2. The Tipping Point
    3. Do You Want More?!??
    4. Things Fall Apart
    5. Phrenology
    6. Organix


  • DE LA SOUL
    1. The Grind Date (surprised, aren't you?)
    2. Stakes Is High
    3. Three Feet High And Rising
    4. De La Soul Is Dead
    5. Buhloone Mindstate[/b]
    6. Those A.O.I albums... doesn't really matter which comes before the other IMO


    Damn
    That???s one of the greatest albums of all time!


    I just got back from the club and need to catch some Zzzzz???s. Look forward to reading the rest of this thread in the morning (or afternoon).



  • HAZHAZ 3,373 Posts

    DE LA SOUL
    1. Three Feet High
    2. Buhloone Mindstate
    3. De La Soul Is Dead
    4. Stakes Is High
    5. The Grind Date
    6. AOI 1 (had some good shit)
    7. AOI 2 (had that one good single)


  • noznoz 3,625 Posts
    (i'm not going to bother doing more than 5 for these dudes)

    JAY-Z
    1. Vol 3... Life & Times Of S. Carter
    2. Reasonable Doubt
    3. The Blueprint
    4. Blueprint 2: The Gift And The Curse (my burnt single disc version)
    5. Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life

    E-40
    1. In A Major Way
    2. Grit & Grind
    3. Federal
    4. Hall Of Game
    5. Breakin' News

    Too Short
    1. Born To Mack
    2. Life Is...
    3. Get In Where You Fit In
    4. Don't Stop Rappin'
    5. Shorty The Pimp

    Outkast
    1. ATLiens
    2. Southernplayalistik
    3. Aquemini
    4. Stankonia
    5. Speakerboxx/Love Below

    Poor Righteous Teachers
    1. Holy Intellect
    2. New World Order
    3. Pure Poverty
    4. Black Business

    Scarface
    1. The Fix (yeah i said it)
    2. Mr. Scarface Is Back
    3. The Diary
    4. The World Is Yours
    5. Untouchable
    (although i never heard last of a dying breed)

    De La Soul
    1. Bulhoone Mindstate
    2. De La Soul Is Dead
    3. Stakes Is High
    4. 3 Ft High & Rising
    .... everything else

  • Diggin' In The Crates

    1. Diamond D - Stunts, Blunts & Hip-Hop
    2. Fat Joe - Represent
    3. O.C - Word...Life
    4. Showbiz & A.G - Runaway Slave
    5. Lord Finesse - The Awakening
    6. Lord Finesse - Funky Technician
    7. Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous
    ....
    ....
    ....
    ....

    Don't even really know if this is the order I would choose so I stopped adding. All I know is my favorite 3 are Diamond D and Fat Joe and O.C not necessarily in that order.

  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    OUTKAST

    1. Aquemini

    2. Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik

    3. ATLiens

    4. Speakerboxxx/Love Below[/b]

    5. Stankonia

  • noznoz 3,625 Posts
    Diggin' In The Crates

    1. Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous
    2. Lord Finesse - Return of The Funkyman
    3. Showbiz & AG - Runaway Slave
    4. Lord Finesse - Funky Technician
    5. Diamond D - Stunts Blunts & Hip Hop

  • cascas 1,484 Posts
    tribe called quest[/b]
    -low end theory
    -midnight marauders
    -people's instinctive travels...
    -beats, rhymes and life
    -love movement

    gangstarr[/b]-(this is so fucking hard)
    -step in the arena
    -daily operation
    -hard to earn
    -moment of truth
    -no more mr. nice guy
    -the ownerz

    masta ace[/b]
    -slaughtahouse
    -sittin on chrome
    -disposable arts
    -take a look around

    still haven't heard a long hot summer

    epmd[/b]
    -business as usual
    -strictly business
    -business never personal
    -unfinished business ("wasn't me it was the fame" and "time to party" moved this down)
    -back in business
    -out of business


  • noznoz 3,625 Posts
    masta ace[/b]
    1. take a look around
    2. disposable arts
    3. slaughtahouse
    4. sittin on chrome

    still haven't heard a long hot summer

  • meshmesh 925 Posts
    Beatnuts:
    1.Intoxicated Demons
    2.Street Level
    3.Stone Crazy
    4.The Spot Remix EP
    5.Take It or Squeeze It

  • meshmesh 925 Posts
    good thread phill

    ATCQ
    1. Midnight Marauders
    1. The Low End Theory
    3. Peoples Instinctive...
    4. Beats Rhymes...
    5. Love Mov...naw, fuck that one.

  • mrpekmrpek 627 Posts
    Diggin' In The Crates


    1. Lord Finesse - Return of The Funkyman
    2. Diamond D - Stunts Blunts & Hip Hop
    3. Showbiz & AG - Runaway Slave
    4. Lord Finesse - Funky Technician
    5. Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous (dude is too ill for this record...a couple more track like the "Devils son" 12 and dude would be #1 on my list)

    De La
    1. Mindstate
    2.3 feet high
    3. Stakes
    4.Tie Can I count "Psycho analysis" and id dead...
    5. Grind date

    Gangstarr
    1. Moment of truth
    2.(close second) Daily operation
    3. Arena
    5. Hard 2earn
    6. Owners (even though it is 5th I really like this record fuck what ya heard)
    7. No more mr.nice guy

    P
    hil nailed the KRS list for me

  • ScottScott 420 Posts
    Ice Cube[/b]
    1. Death Certificate
    2. Amerikka's Most Wanted
    3. Predator
    4. Kill At Will EP
    5. Lethal Injection
    6. Everything Else

    Boot Camp Click[/b]
    1. Enta Da Stage
    2. Da Shinin'
    3. Nocturnal
    4. Da Storm
    5. Da Rest of da Catalog

  • sconesscones 434 Posts

    GHOSTFACE KILLAH
    1. Iron Man
    2. supreme clientele
    3. Pretty Tony
    4. Bullet Proof Wallets

    DE LA SOUL
    1. 3ft high
    2. stakes is high
    3. de la soul is dead
    4. buhloone mindstate
    4. grind date
    6. Those A.O.I albums... doesn't really matter which comes before the other IMO


    JAY-Z
    1. Reasonable Doubt

    COMMON / COMMON SENSE
    1. Resurrection
    2. Be

    GANGSTARR
    1. daily operation
    2. hard to earn
    3. step into the arena
    4. moment of truth (whats with people who put this in their top 5 ALL TIME albums.. its pretty shit really..)

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    Nas



    1. It Was Written.

    2. Illmatic

    3. Stillmatic

    4. The Lost Tapes

    5. I Am.



    Mobb Deep



    1. The Infamous

    2. Hell On Earth.

    3. Juvenile Hell.

    4. Free Agents(Murder Mix Tape).

    5. Murda Muzik.




  • sconesscones 434 Posts
    Nas

    1.It Was Written.
    2.Illmatic

    oh no you didnt.

  • AaronAaron 977 Posts
    Diggin' In The Crates

    1. Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous
    2. Lord Finesse - Return of The Funkyman
    3. Showbiz & AG - Runaway Slave
    4. Lord Finesse - Funky Technician
    5. Diamond D - Stunts Blunts & Hip Hop

    What? No Terror Squad?

    Really, though, Funky Technician belongs at the top.

  • GHOSTFACE KILLAH
    1. Supreme Clientele
    2. Iron Man
    3. Pretty Tony
    4. Bullet Proof Wallets

    DE LA SOUL
    1. Buhloone Mindstate
    2. Stakes is High
    3. de la soul is dead
    4. Grind Date
    4. 3 Feet High and Rising
    6. A.O.I 1 and 2


    JAY-Z
    1. Reasonable Doubt
    2. Blueprint
    3. Black Album
    4. I don't fuck with the rest

    COMMON / COMMON SENSE
    1. Resurrection
    2. Be
    3. Like Water For Chocolate
    4. One Day It'll All Make Sense
    5. Electric Circus
    6. Can I Borrow A Dollar

    GANGSTARR
    1. Hard To Earn
    2. Step Into The Arena
    3. Daily Operation
    4. moment of truth (loads of classic tracks...)
    5. The Ownerz (i liked this a lot...)
    6. No More Mr Nice Guy

    TRIBE

    1. Midnight Marauders
    2. Low End Theory
    3. Beats Rhymes and Life
    4. People's Instinctive Travels...
    5. Love Movement

    DITC

    1. Diamond D - Stunts, Blunts
    2. Show and AG - Runaway Slave
    3. Big L - Lifestyles...
    4. Lord Finesse - Funky Technician
    5. O.C. - Jewelz

  • spivyspivy 866 Posts
    ditc-
    1: oc-word life
    2:diamond d-stunts blunts and...
    3:lord finesse-funky tech...
    4:show and ag-goodfellas (hate all you want...i love this album)
    5:lord finesse-return of...

    nas-
    1.illmatic
    2:illmatic
    3:illmatic
    4:illmatic
    5:it was written

    beatnuts-
    1:street level
    2:intoxicated demons
    3:stone crazy
    4:the spot
    5:musical massacre

    gangstarr-
    1:daily operation
    2:hard to earn
    3:step in the arena
    4:moment of truth
    5:group home-livin' proof (lil' dap and malachi blow but the beats are incredible)


  • gangstarr-

    1. Step In The Arena
    2. Daily Operation
    3. Jeru The Damaja - Sun Rises In The East

  • mannybolonemannybolone 15,032 Posts
    GHOSTFACE KILLAH
    1. Supreme Clientele
    2. Iron Man (just BARELY behind Supreme Clientele)
    3. Pretty Tony
    4. Bullet Proof Wallets

    I can't really disagree with this though I can't really tell if PT is better than BPW or not. Both have strengths and flaws and would be a tie in my book.



    DE LA SOUL
    1. De La Soul Is Dead
    2. 3 Ft. High
    3. Buhloone Mindstate
    4. Stakes Is High
    5. The Grind Date
    6. Those A.O.I albums

    It's tough to choose b/t 1 and 2 but I'm nodding at "Dead" because it manages to reinvent the group in a way that was unexpected and undeniably successful. I liked "The Grind Date" but I just can't listen to it and not feel like something's changed (probably me)


    KRS ONE / BDP
    1. Criminal Minded
    2. Return Of The Boom Bap
    3. By All Means Necessary
    4. Sex And Violence
    5. KRS One
    6. Ghetto Music: The Blueprint Of Hip hop
    7. Edutainment
    8. I Got Next
    9. whatever else...

    I'd agree with this for the most part.

    Kris did a lot of recent stuff I haven't checked for, and although he is a great live performer i wasn't crazy about the "Live Hardcore Worldwide" lp... that's just me, though



    JAY-Z
    1. Reasonable Doubt
    2. The Blueprint (actually not all that far behind "Reasonable" for me)
    3. The Black Album (can't believe how much this album grew on me)
    4. Vol 3... Life & Times Of S. Carter
    5. Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life
    6. In My Lifetime Vol. 1
    7. The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
    8. Blueprint 2: The Gift And The Curse

    I'm not really counting "Unplugged" on the list since it's all old songs. But of the Vol 1-3, I thought 3 was, by far, the superior volume. I can't even fuck with Vol. 1 or 2 most days but they're more consistent than "Dynasty" or the shitty, "Blueprint 2".



    COMMON / COMMON SENSE
    1. Resurrection
    2. Like Water For Chocolate
    3. Can I Borrow A Dollar
    4. One Day It'll All Make Sense
    5. Electric Circus
    6. Be

    Honestly, the degree in quality between his albums isn't that great to me. If "Resurrection" is a somewhere around an "8" or "9", something like be wouldn't be much lower than a "7".


    THE ROOTS
    1. Things Fall Apart
    2. Phrenology
    3. Do You Want More?!??
    4. Illadelph Halflife
    5. Organix
    6. The Tipping Point

    I don't know - this is a tough one too given that their albums manage to be very differnt from one another in some ways (like, how do you compare "Phrenology" with "Do You Want More?") though frankly, I think "Orgnanix" and "Do You Want More?" might as well be the same album. I also think "DYWM?" is more groundbreaking (please people, stop laughing) for its time and place but it hasn't aged well at all.


  • mannybolonemannybolone 15,032 Posts
    Diggin' In The Crates

    1. Lord Finesse - Return of The Funkyman
    2. Showbiz & AG - Runaway Slave
    3. Diamond D - Stunts Blunts & Hip Hop
    4. Lord Finesse - Funky Technician
    5. Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous

    All praises due to Big L but his debut didn't really meet up with his potential. I also think Lord Finesse's first album is about as good as the Show/Diamond albums though, on a personal level, I just like them in this order.

  • mannybolonemannybolone 15,032 Posts
    tribe called quest[/b]
    1. low end theory
    2. midnight marauders
    2. people's instinctive travels...
    4. beats, rhymes and life
    5. love movement

    Fuck this, I'm doing ties. Might as well. But otherwise, yeah, this sounds about right though I know some folk who like MM more than LET.



    gangstarr[/b]-(this is so fucking easy)
    1. step in the arena
    2. hard to earn
    3. moment of truth
    4. daily operation
    5. no more mr. nice guy
    6. the ownerz

    I know most people wouldn't put DO that low but honestly, I have NEVER liked that LP and no matter how many repeated listens I've subjected myself to, I just can't roll with it.



    masta ace[/b]
    1. slaughtahouse
    2. take a look around
    3. long hot summer
    4. sittin on chrome
    5. disposable arts

    Personally though, I wouldn't really listen to much more than 1.



    public enemy[/b]
    1. it takes a nation of millions
    2. fear of a black planet
    3. yo! bum rush the show
    4. apocalypse 91
    5. greatest misses
    6. everything else...



    ice cube + dr. dre + nwa + related fam (1988-1993, no EPs, no 'Pac)[/b]
    1. straight outta compton
    1. the chronic
    3. death certificate
    4. amerikkka's most wanted
    4. doggystyle
    6. no one can do it better
    7. niggaz4life
    8. livin like hustlers
    9. the predator

    This is a definitely a tough one; I'd probably rescramble a lot of these depending on my mood. Personally, "Death Certificate" would be #1 to me but I recognize that it's not as influential as either SOC or TC. I was also never a big N4L fan. And the Predator is pretty far below Above the Law.


  • spivyspivy 866 Posts
    a tribe called quest
    1:midnight marauders
    2:low end theory
    3:beats,rhymes and...
    4:there is no four-love movement is weak and peoples never did it for me...sorry.

  • spivyspivy 866 Posts
    hiero (westcoast underground heavyweights...am i right?)
    1:souls of mischief-93 til...
    2:del-no need for alarm
    3:casual-fear itself

  • asstroasstro 1,753 Posts
    Wu-Tang And Solos[/b]

    1. Wu-Tang - Enter the 36
    2. Ghostface - Ironman
    3. ODB - Return to the 36 (yeah, I said it!)
    4. Ghostface - Supreme Clientele
    5. GZA - Liquid Swords
    6. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx


    DJ Premier productions[/b]
    1. Gangstarr - Hard To Earn
    2. Jeru - Sun Rises In The East
    3. Group Home - Livin Proof
    4. Gangstarr - Daily Operation
    5. Notorious BIG - Ready To DIe (just for "Unbelievable")

  • spivyspivy 866 Posts
    good call on the wu tang plus...
    1:wu-36 chambers
    2:ghostface-iron man
    3:gza-liquid swords
    4:raekwon-cuban links
    5:odb-return...

  • bluesnagbluesnag 1,285 Posts

    ICE-T

    1. Rhyme Pays
    2. O.G. Original Ganster
    3. Power
    4. The Iceberg/Freedom of speech...just watch what you say
    .
    .
    .

  • BaptBapt 2,503 Posts


    [color:yellow] PETE ROCK
    Soul Survivor [Loud], 1998 [/color]

    [color:orange] PETE ROCK
    Soul Survivor [Loud], 1998 [/color]

    [color:red] PETE ROCK
    Soul Survivor [Loud], 1998 [/color]

    [color:brown] PETE ROCK
    Soul Survivor [Loud], 1998 [/color]

    [color:#666666] PETE ROCK
    Soul Survivor [Loud], 1998 [/color]

    [color:black] PETE ROCK
    Soul Survivor [Loud], 1998 [/color]

    but, that's just me.

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,471 Posts
    KRS/BDP
    1. Criminal Minded
    2. Sex & Violence
    3. By All Means Necessary
    4. Return of the Boom Bap
    5. KRS-One
    6. Ghetto Music: The Blueprint of Hip-Hop
    7. Edutainment
    8. I Got Next

    DE LA SOUL
    1. Buhloone Mind State
    2. 3 Feet High and Rising
    3. De La Soul Is Dead
    4. Stakes Is High
    5. the Grind Date
    6. AOI

    LL COOL J
    1. Mama Said Knock You Out
    2. Radio
    3. Walking with the Panther
    4. Bigger and Deffer
    (These are all really tough to rank; the rest of 'em don't even deserve a ranking)

    EPMD
    1. Business as Usual
    2. Strictly Business
    3. Unfinished Business
    4. Business Never Personal

    GANGSTARR
    1. Daily Operation
    2. Step in the Arena
    3. Hard to Earn
    4. Moment of Truth
    5. The Ownerz

    TRIBE
    1. Low End Theory
    2. Midnight Marauders
    3. People's Instinctive Travels
    4. Beats, Rhymes, and Life
    5. (ATCQ never made a fifth album. Nope. Never happened.)

    ERIC B & RAKIM
    1. Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em
    2. Paid in Full
    3. Follow the Leader
    4. Don't Sweat the Technique
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