SS rap thread: Film about the origins of the elements
pcmr
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it's got mr.i was there and immortal technique sharing the stage with detective ice-t
no lil waynz-n-em but eminem
REAL HIPHOP...with your quote leader Yassin Bey (formerly relevant)
I don't know what to think about this subject matter and approach in 2012
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YES. This ^
the books, award shows, utubes and the like have kinda cover the roots quite well.
Its cool to hear it from the horses mouf all in one joint but dang.
at least it OGs talkin to eachnother and not Shia LeBouf or some Wu Tang dicksucker nonsense.
Kool Keith FTW.
Yeah, this. For me, this is what takes it from an eye-roll to, "Yeah, I'll check this out":
this is what has got me more excited about it. good photography is the only thing that makes me re-visit a documentary. that, or a less than healthy obsession with the topic.
also, as has been said, it's cool to hear the story from the horse's mouth, specially for people like me, who weren't there from the beginning, or even in the 'golden years'.
I'd probably be more interested if they actually threw in some younger rappers as well - people who are still doing it as main career rather than in between guest talks/films/tv shows.
younger dudes cant rap
LOL ok, whatever works for you. Personally I'd be more interested if the whole thing didn't feel like a retrospective of a dead art form for people who stopped enjoying rap music in 2004.
dead art form = younger rappers
No.
WAKA FLOCKA HALL OF FLAME
LIL WAYNE GEETAR SOLO
3D
Edit: BTW, Lil Wayne is not a "new rapper", the style of the documentary is obviously never going to be focusing on Brick Squad etc but even talking to people like the Black Hippy gang about how they've approached it all with the influences that were already in place would have at least made it all seem a bit less like an epitaph.
also it will make for an epic drinking game
But such a film without reference to Hubble, Einstein et al is just pffft.
And no Hawking cameo?
FOOH.
Anyways, my favourites are cobalt and helium.
And mercury.
i just find it hard to subvert the nuances of post-golden-era artistic pessimism to my judgment of the cultural influence of hiphop
like when i see a documentary about hiphop youth programs in central africa or brazilian favelas
they've embraced the four elements as part of ''this culture is a lifestyle'' and are card carrying zulu nation members
i would feel out of place dissing their enthusiasm and POV even though it bores me to tears
it seems that rap fans are pigeonholed into too open or too closed in a sort of left/right elite approach to the changing hiphop landscape
the underground crusaders embrace embarrassingly dated models of REAL hiphop that are devoid of talent and proudly shit on everything that's made today with a semblance of bling/swag
check this hiphop academic manifesto with political undertones
http://hemisphericinstitute.org/artistprofiles/dhoch/dhoch_HipHopAestheticManifesto.pdf
on the other hand
the other extreme is either too regionally entrenched into archival levels of repping or simply too blind to the emperor's clothes to accept that trae is not channeled in every angry rapper with a grim outlook and aggressive delivery and that the neon cocktail of syzurp with fizzy pills at the bottom is not always REFRESHING
in the end it's about who screams SELL OUT...or JUST DON'T GET IT the loudest
but isn't it all about the music mang
ironically i suspect a flocka juice grape drink served in glass 40 bottles would kill the beverage market
Insert any young rapper instead of wack-a and I stand by my prediction.
Like which ones?
Gucci Mane was available but no-one could stop laughing at the desert themed facial tats long enough for the interview to be completed.
Other new school rappeurs were dropped after test audiences reacted unfavorably to interviews conducted in autotune.
After School Program Rappers