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Suicide Bunnies (Book Burning Related)

LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
edited October 2008 in Strut Central
a href="http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/Bunny_Suicide_Comic_Pics_226_2007.php" target="_blank"1http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/Bunny_Suicide_Comic_Pics_226_2007.phpb,121b,121a 9th grader brought this book home from the school library. This happened near Portland in Oregon. b,121b,121Mom says she will burn it. And if they replace it she will burn that one too. b,121b,121Way to go Oregon.
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  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121a href="http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/Bunny_Suicide_Comic_Pics_226_2007.php" target="_blank"1http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/Bunny_Suicide_Comic_Pics_226_2007.phpb,121b,121a 9th grader brought this book home from the school library. This happened near Portland in Oregon. b,121b,121Mom says she will burn it. And if they replace it she will burn that one too. b,121b,121Way to go Oregon. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121I've heard of this kind of shit more and more recently. The Xtians get their hands on a library book they don't like and make it disappear.b,121These people are so TERRIFIED of things like this they think that this kind of one on one censorship is a good idea.b,121That fact that the mother makes a point of declaring she'll burn the book (because is she just throws it out someone might find it again) is classic.
  • twoplytwoply Only Built 4 Manzanita Links 2,917 Posts
    Eh, she may be going overboard, but I don't think it would be unreasonable to open up a dialogue about removing this book from the school. Having known two people in high school who committed suicide, I don't think I would have found it funny at all.
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Eh, she may be going overboard, but I don't think it would be unreasonable to open up a dialogue about removing this book from the school. Having known two people in high school who committed suicide, I don't think I would have found it funny at all. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Sure, because removing things that talk about suicide will stop people from committing suicide...b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/WHYMUSTICRY.gif" alt="" 21
  • chasechase 767 Posts
    I thought some of the ways the bunnies committed suicide was pretty clever. b,121b,121This is to much for high schoolers? b,121b,121In 9th grade this book was the LAST thing my parents should have worried about me getting into.
  • Ex-BoyfriendEx-Boyfriend 795 Posts
    A parent feeling a book is not appropriate for their child's school library is not tantamount to censorship. It's not even close.
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121A parent feeling a book is not appropriate for their child's school library is not tantamount to censorship. It's not even close. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Stealing and destroying the book is you simpleton.
  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121A parent feeling a book is not appropriate for their child's school library is not tantamount to censorship. It's not even close. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121But burning said book in a fit of pique so that no one is 'endangered' by that book....that is censorship. Not state sponsored, sure, but one individual's attempt to censor something. Thankfully, not at all effective, as the publisher can and will print more, no matter how many books Ms. Palin can burn. Thank the good lord for mass printing, just as Jesus intended.
  • Ex-BoyfriendEx-Boyfriend 795 Posts
    Has she made any attempt to suppress the availability of this title outside of her child's school library? Nah, hence, fall back.
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Has she made any attempt to suppress the availability of this title outside of her child's school library? Nah, hence, fall back. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121The library is a public resource where information is shared.b,121Hence, please die.
  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Has she made any attempt to suppress the availability of this title outside of her child's school library? Nah, hence, fall back. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Yes she did. Prove me wrong.
  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Has she made any attempt to suppress the availability of this title outside of her child's school library? Nah, hence, fall back. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121the fact that she thinks she speaks for every child and every parent in the school (a number much larger than the number of people in her family) by destroying the book makes it censorship asslick...censorship implies that NO ONE ELSE should see the book, because the censor believes they speak for an entire group, in this case, everyone involved with said school...if this parent doesnt like the book, they need to tell the child why they dont like it and tell the child they do not approve of the book, the parent's influence should STOP at his/her child...this parent has NO RIGHT to force her view on EVERY child/parent in the school....
  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    My kid came home from the school library last week with 'Hammer of the Gods'.b,121b,121He's seven.b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/green30sv.gif" alt="" 21
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Has she made any attempt to suppress the availability of this title outside of her child's school library? Nah, hence, fall back. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121the fact that she thinks she speaks for every child and every parent in the school (a number much larger than the number of people in her family) by destroying the book makes it censorship asslick...censorship implies that NO ONE ELSE should see the book, because the censor believes they speak for an entire group, in this case, everyone involved with said school...if this parent doesnt like the book, they need to tell the child why they dont like it and tell the child they do not approve of the book, the parent's influence should STOP at his/her child...this parent has NO RIGHT to force her view on EVERY child/parent in the school.... b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121TRUTH.b,121b,121The idea that it's only censorship when done by a governmental entity is a fallacy. She set out to deny access to this book to a large group of people. If she wanted to deny access for her son she might have told him not to go (much like these people ought to turn the channel, or god forbid TURN OFF THE TV - when something comes on that she doesn't approve of). She should try acting like a parent instead of an inquisitor.
  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121My kid came home from the school library last week with 'Hammer of the Gods'.b,121b,121He's seven.b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/green30sv.gif" alt="" 21 b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Uh...remember that part where the red snapper story is related in all its glory?
  • FrankFrank 2,374 Posts
    I love it when Xtians drop all that jesus-loves-you bullshit and show their true fashist colors. Go ahead, burn some books!
  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Uh...remember that part where the red snapper story is related in all its glory? b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121"we introduced teh red snapper to her red snapper"b,121lolb,121"she came about 20 times"b,121LOLb,121b,121yeah I didn't censor my boy reading it, but I did take it and read it this week for myself. Great stuff. My boy picked it up because his older brother is into the Zep and they watch youtubes of performances. He would never have read it. Not enough pictures.b,121b,121Favourite bits so far:b,121b,121Peter Grant and Richard Cole paying for a hotel employee to smash up one of the rooms "but hurry up, we're off in 15 minutes".b,121b,121"When the band got back to London, the A was taken out of LEAD so the thick Americans wouldn't mispronounce it LEED"b,121LOL, sorryb,121b,121"Once one of the roadies knocked on their door to inform Jimmy that they were gangbanging Cynthia Plastercaster upstairs in a tub of baked beans. Jimmy went up to watch".b,121LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121I love it when Xtians drop all that jesus-loves-you bullshit and show their true fashist colors. Go ahead, burn some books! b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Am I the only one who finds it ironic that someone can have faith in the existence and workings of an all powerful god, but still feel it necessary to micromanage the local library?
  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121I love it when Xtians drop all that jesus-loves-you bullshit and show their true fashist colors. Go ahead, burn some books! b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Am I the only one who finds it ironic that someone can have faith in the existence and workings of an all powerful god, but still feel it necessary to micromanage the local library? b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Bingo!
  • FrankFrank 2,374 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121I love it when Xtians drop all that jesus-loves-you bullshit and show their true fashist colors. Go ahead, burn some books! b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Am I the only one who finds it ironic that someone can have faith in the existence and workings of an all powerful god, but still feel it necessary to micromanage the local library? b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Bingo! b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121doing the lord's work, making sure that x-tian values are protected blahblah.... someshit like that.b,121don't know about the US but X-tians in Germany are one the most powerful forces in censorship, at least in television and I think the church also holds some seats in this gremium that decides on the rating etc of theatrical movie releases.
  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    When I was in highschool I stole a whole bunch of books from the school library - all of them not having been taken out for over 20yrs. I reasoned that they would get better use with me reading them than gathering dust on the shelf. I have all of them still, and not that this makes it right, have re-read them and lent them out. Writing this now, it occurs to me that the right thing to do is to buy new copies of all of them and drop them off at the school. b,121b,121I only looked at the comics, which were cute and dark and pretty damn creative sometimes - where does it say the woman did it because it is unChristian?b,121b,121Going from personal experience - I got into sh*t a lot, but my Mom was the talking/sometimes yelling, not freaking out and condemning type so I told her everything, even in times of trouble. Feeling like you got someone to go to as a safety net within your own family is so key. A Mom who burns books would not be that person.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Eh, she may be going overboard, but I don't think it would be unreasonable to open up a dialogue about removing this book from the school. Having known two people in high school who committed suicide, I don't think I would have found it funny at all. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cos3ve.gif" alt="" 21b,121b,121What's the educational value of Suicide Hitler Bunny exactly??
  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Eh, she may be going overboard, but I don't think it would be unreasonable to open up a dialogue about removing this book from the school. Having known two people in high school who committed suicide, I don't think I would have found it funny at all. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cos3ve.gif" alt="" 21b,121b,121What's the educational value of Suicide Hitler Bunny exactly?? b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Complaining/discussing about the value of something and taking matters into your own hands are completely different situations. Forbidding your child from viewing something is completely different from forbidding anyone's child from viewing it.
  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
    Those comics are clearly intended for a mature audience. Highschool age is probably mature enough, but anything earlier than that would concern me. I mean, if I were in highschool I would argue that we should have penthouse magazine in the library to, uh, you know, open up a dialogue...?b,121b,121I see the point, but a school library and a public library aren't the same thing.b,121b,121b,121Back in my day (old man rant) I had to put in realy work to check out some playboys. kids these days have it easy, what with there internets and whatnot.b,121b,121b,121One other thing, there is one book that they allow in the library thats full of rape, incest, mass murder, genocide, slavery, violence, and other nasty items, but I'm sure what I'm getting at here is pretty obvious....
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121b,121Back in my day (older man rant) I didn't have to put in much work at all to check out some National Geographicsb,121b,121h,121
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  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121One other thing, there is one book that they allow in the library thats full of rape, incest, mass murder, genocide, slavery, violence, and other nasty items, but I'm sure what I'm getting at here is pretty obvious.... b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/day465/Soulstrut/blasphemergraemcm6.gif"1b,121b,121You'll get this book off the shelves when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.b,121b,121Which are holding it while it sits on the shelf. For extra protection.b,121b,121img src="http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v347/61/84/1538343294/n1538343294_52353_1249.jpg"1
  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121b,121Back in my day (older man rant) I didn't have to put in much work at all to check out some National Geographicsb,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THOSE FLOPPY-ASS AMAZON TITTIES!
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    Mom wants to ban, burn 'Bunny Suicides'b,121by Joseph Rose, The Oregonianb,121Monday October 20, 2008, 8:53 PMb,121b,121b,121A Halsey mother has filed paperwork to have a popular graphic novel banned from the Central Linn High School library.b,121b,121b1There's just one hitch: Taffey Anderson refuses to return "The Book of Bunny Suicides" to the school district so a committee can review her complaint.[/b]b,121b,121She won't budge. In fact, she reportedly plans to burn the book.b,121b,121b1Two weeks after students at the school discussed the First Amendment as part of Banned Book Week, Principal Julie Knoedler said Anderson's challenge is timely if not frustrating.b,121b,121"I understand her feeling very strongly about her rights, values and responsibility as a parent," Knoedler said. "But I'm disappointed that she is forcing us to buy another copy before we can review the book."[/b]b,121b,121The 2003 book by British author Andy Riley is a collection of black-comedy cartoons showing adorable white rabbits trying to end their lives through a variety of methods.b,121b,121A mail slot. The Starship Enterprise's transporter room. A chair set up between a knife store and "Electro-Magnets 'R' Us." A grenade tied to a boomerang. The scenarios go on for 80 pages.b,121b,121Not funny, Anderson contends. Not for a kid. Not for anyone.b,121b,121She flipped through the book after her 13-year-old son brought it home from the school library, which serves middle and high school students.b,121b,121Anderson could not be reached for comment Monday.b,121b,121But her short and pointed answers to questions on the Central Linn Schools' "Request for Reconsideration of Instructional Materials" forms left no doubt about her disgust with the suicidal bunnies, although she was short on specifics.b,121b,121b1For example, the paperwork asks petitioners to list what they believe "might be the result of using" the offending material. Anderson's answer: "All different kinds of things."[/b]b,121b,121Anderson answered that she read the book in its entirety. She also wrote, "This book has absolutely no curriculum value to anybody."b,121b,121That last point is debatable, Knoedler said.b,121b,121"The Book of Bunny Suicides" was purchased, she said, as part of program to encourage reluctant readers. The book was on a young-adult reader list recommended by the American Library Association, she said, and is in several school libraries in Oregon.b,121b,121In Portland, two high schools offer the book, district spokesman Matt Shelby said. "We've had no complaints that I've heard," he said.b,121b,121Last month, a bookseller in Shanghai, China, pulled the book after reports that some young readers had attempted suicide, including one boy who reportedly died. But in the United States, there's no evidence that "Bunny Suicides," often compared to the 1988 Simon Bond cartoon book "101 Uses for a Dead Cat," is particularly controversial.b,121b,121On the Internet, the book is so popular that British publisher Hodder & Stoughton has sent a letter to Google, demanding that it stop directing people to Web sites featuring its copyright cartoons.b,121b,121Knoedler said Anderson must bring the book back for the committee to review it and make a recommendation to the school board. If she refuses, the district will have to pay $13 for another copy and charge the family.b,121b,121Anderson contacted the Albany Democrat-Herald newspaper to share her disgust with the book last week. In Sunday's edition, she said she planned to burn the book, regardless of what the review finds.b,121b,121"They're not getting this book back," she told the newspaper. If the library replaces it, "I'll have somebody else check it out and I'll keep that one. I'm just disgusted by the whole ordeal," she said.b,121b,121But if Anderson doesn't pay for a replacement, her son will be banned from taking out any more books, the school district said. And that's a shame for any student, much less one who has an obvious interest in checking out books, Knoedler said.b,121b,121In her three years as principal, she said, only one other book has been challenged by a parent. It was a graphic novel that was eventually placed on hold where students couldn't happen across it inadvertently, she said.b,121b,121The debate comes at a time when cartoon books and graphic novels are exploding in popularity among readers and gaining acceptance in academic circles, said Scott Kenney, children's librarian at the Albany Public Library.b,121b,121"I think we've entered an era when 'Garfield' has taught more kids to read than 'Hop on Pop,'" Kenney said. "Of course, Garfield is a brute. Some parents might have a problem with that."b,121b,121Kenney said he has mixed feelings about the saga developing in Halsey, 20 miles south of Albany.b,121b,121"The Book of Bunny Suicides," Kenney said, is funny but belongs on the mature-humor shelf rather than a library's youth section.b,121b,121Yes, he said, the Albany library's children's section includes books from humorist Gary Larson. "But I don't think his cartoons ever put bunnies in toasters," Kenney said.b,121b,121Still, he said he's uneasy with the idea of one person trying to dictate what others in his or her community should be allowed to read.b,121b,121Knoedler agreed.b,121b,121She said "The Book of Bunny Suicides" has been checked out only a handful of times since it arrived at the high school library last year. "But I have 295 students and families to answer to," she said. "It could very well be that families with reluctant readers would be happy with their students picking any book from the library." b,121b,121a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/10/ore_mom_wont_return_bunny_suic.html" target="_blank"1http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/10/ore_mom_wont_return_bunny_suic.htmlb,121b,121She has not only a right, but an obligation, to see that her son reads books that are to her families standards. b,121b,121She also has a right to petition the school library to remove books that do not fit the schools standards. b,121b,121Suicide is a serious issue among young people. Someones feelings about suicide would certainly effect whether or not the find SB funny. b,121b,121When I was in HS dead baby jokes were popular. I used to tell them all the time, and thought it was funny when someone found them objectionable. Eventually I learned that they were not only objectionable, but caused some people pain. I learned. I can understand some people being disgusted by SB. b,121b,121Book burning I don't understand.
  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121b,121Back in my day (older man rant) I didn't have to put in much work at all to check out some National Geographicsb,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THOSE FLOPPY-ASS AMAZON TITTIES! b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121YEAH MAN WE WANT THE REAL SILICON ONES
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121b,121Back in my day (older man rant) I didn't have to put in much work at all to check out some National Geographicsb,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THOSE FLOPPY-ASS AMAZON TITTIES! b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Dude.....it was either that or Hieroglyphics!!
  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121"The Book of Bunny Suicides" was purchased, she said, as part of program to encourage reluctant readers. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121A book with no words was purchased to encourage reluctant readers????b,121b,121b,121That like starting a thread with no subject to encourage reluctant lurkers....
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