can records do this?
alieNDN
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so i was reading a design book today, and the author was talking about white space, legibility, space in general and other facinating stuff, but then the author sort of went into a tangent and brought up LP's and i'l just type the following excerpt straight out the book:"Ordinarily, an LP record has one long groove on each side of the disc. Monty (no Starks) Python, the British comedy troupe, released a record in the 1970s that was billed as "three-sided, two-sided record." Python put the normal single groove on one side and two concentric grooves on the other side, making it a matter of chance before a listener would happen to put the needle down on one or the other groove. I distinctly remember the delight of hearing somethign unexpected, having taken me several listenings before their novel manipulation was realize. Their gag worke because they reinvented the rules of LP recordings."wow, i dont know if that makes you wanna get your ebay groove on to get that, but thats damn fascinating. has anyone else done stuff like this? if so, why or why not...and if so, was it within reason? i thought you would need a really thin needle to pull something like that off, or did that just trigger longer playing lps?
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Seems like just a funny little gimmick to me - good wat to place a secret track!
I was gonna mention this as well.
plaese to elaborate on what release this is, and what they did with it.
Thanks
they put 2 songs on the same side, but its like 2 spirals inside each other. does that make sense?
istead of visibly seeing 2 tracks, you see what looks like one. but in reality they are like this. if you at a groove, and trace your finger around it, imagine 2 needles playing side by side, and they both play different songs.
aww man, i dont know how to explain this well. someone else try.
They distributed it to the peoples
what in the eff are we looking at behind that record? a melted geoduck wearing a baseball hat?
don't sweat it- that made perfect sense.
it reminds me of some liner notes i saw in a tool album once, but then it looks like some dude at a table...wtf for real...though upside down it looks krang from the ninja turtles ballroom dancing with freddy kreuger...or pizza like when you were a kid and ate just the toppings of pizza and left the tomatoe sauce imprint on the dough, either way, its still ball room dancing with krang
wait so the same song twice on one side but just offset? what would be the purpose of this, to screw with a dj when they're dropping the needle to find a certain part?
No, 2 different one's.
And that PUTS pic? That was just some wild shit from off the board one night.
And trust me, you don't want to know what that is.
I think it was some kind of photographic love letter from Thes to Grafwritah.
Basically, there are not two, but four or five parallel grooves per side on this disc, and each groove contains the play-by-play of the horse race, but with different winners. The idea was to place bets on the race then spin the record, y'know, big fun.
I think there are several variations on this idea that came out, too.
(endless audience applause loop at end of side 4)
(the ???Sgt Pepper???s Inner Groove??? found on UK edition of LP)
Hidden vinyl tracks:
On Mr. Bungle???s ???Disco Volante???
"This only works on the record version of Disco Volante. It is tough to find. You have to drop the needle slowly right after the groove for the 3rd track "Carry Stress in the Jaw." If done correctly it will take you to the secret song that seems to be missing from the album. I found it be accident one night."
source http://www.eeggs.com/items/2042.html
On Moby Grape???s ???Wow???:
"The 1968 Moby Grape album 'WOW' has a lockgroove that seperates the song "Just Like Gene Autry: A Foxtrot," which unlike the rest of the album, is mastered at 78 RPM. The track is also said to be 'mixed to sound like an old 78."
source http://207.44.161.194/forums/showthread.php?s=c03c58cfab4a521e3313cf24d231af1c&threadid=61293
has a locked groove at the end of side two, but there is another song after it if you move the needle over.
There is a great Aphex Twin 12" (AFX guise methinks) that has two different songs on one side, depending at what point you drop the needle. I think it is one of the Analouge Bubblebath EP's
I'll check my store for more.
What? I gotta dig that out again.
Btw that frumposarus thing behind the PUTS looks like something from one of Chris Cunningham's nightmares.
Ok check this shit out. A long time ago before I collected records I remember hearing a religious broadcast where an evangelist was discussing the 'devils music'. He was bringing up all kinds of references to the hidden messages on records, and talking about how to find them. Most of them were the kind where you played the record backwards. However, he mentioned one secret song that blew me away. He was referring to this rock record that had a message from the devil that you could find underneath the label![/b], he described how you peel back the paper label on the record and underneath it was a hidden track! I cannot remember the name of the group, but this guy was so positive that it exsisted. Does anyone know???
Now, as for this:
There was nothing "hidden" about that track at all - the song is listed right there in the back-cover credits.
SG